I am more sensative to felt recoil. Should I still consider the !9c?

Everyone that has shot my G19C vs the G19 has said the recoil was less. You should the G19C. I have some tendinitis in my wrists and for me in the G19C vs G19 the recoil difference is definitely felt/noticeable.

Oddly enough I notice a slight difference from the basic G19 vs a G19C with a G19 barrel in it and would go the G19C and a G19 barrel as the best of both worlds.

 

My first day hear and I see these kinds of posts :shocked:, well for those who have never fired a gun at night or in the dark. There is a muzzle flash not matter what gun port or no port. Yes the ported gun will have more but my M16 A2 and M-4 have ports on the front and I have shot night, indoor and really dark situations here and in the sand box, in buildings and never had my night vision lost or blinded by it.

My personal 870 is ported as well and there was no issue during low light and night fire. We have a reservist with a 22C and his department out here that uses it. They have never had issue with it. I had a Kimber 1911 Custom II with a Wilson Combat Comp on there and have never had issue with it in low light or night shooting.

Maybe the ones who don't know what they are talking about should not speak or listen to people who have experience not those who have a theory or think they know everything. :steamed:

oh this again, the benefit of the c vs the regular is recoil, dont let the c haters on this site get you down, i have 17c 19c 23c 20c and it so much better in recoil plus faster follow up shoots, there have been many on this site about this, you can find good postings in this site about it, but avoid the people whp have never owned one or shot one at night, people forget that the is always a muzzle flash at night and ported self defense shotguns, ar15 heck our m4 issued to us with the comp in front has muzzle flash and it dont blind us in buildings or in the desert at night, you should see the fire from a m240 bravo or m60 or 249 flash at night, then our berattas had a little muzzle flash from the front at night shooting, go c models work that booty work it good

I own both G19C and G19. The G19C has less muzzle flip, give me faster follow uo shots even though 9mm doesn't have much recoil, I find the G19C shoots flatter for me and especially when shooting with one hand. You can always but the G19C and add a G19 barrel then you can have both.

Massad Ayoob use a Beretta 92 that is Magna ported for home defense and if he is the expert and having a ported gun not worrying

http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles/ayoob54.html


I am probably the biggest C model fan ever. I will say that firing from retention from first hand experience with a gas mask on with the gun close into my chest left some residual on it, from retention shooting against my body right side slight above the waist line did cause some minor marks/damage on my shirt. I lost track of the round count.

Anyways during night/pitch black turning off all the lights at the range ops shooting I never lost my night vision or was blind and neither did the others. When looking into any bright light if you stare into you will see what you want. If your focusing and your front sight/target the C models are built with a V port style that goes off to the side.

I love my C models and always will. They are louder but I don't give a F--K. They do attract lint like big bounces DD's at the strip club attract me but again I don't give a F--K. The C models are a perfect combination of Glock ingenuity and innovation. Prior ported guns were open top style ported.

Shotguns that are ported like Vang Comps, Gunsite, Nighthawk, etc have never advised shooters to not use at night because of the porting and at full extension of the pistol vs where the ports are on a ported shotgun its pretty close, and again no loss in night vision.

As I continue to ramble about the great C models I will just end on one last note. Like any gun, make, model, style, type, caliber (oh please don't start), version whatever some will like it and some will not.

 

Check out my Youtube video comparing the 19 and 19c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBfPVRUKvYY

also the folllow up video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjPbqtJGsLE&feature=related

 

What about the 17 C. What ar ethe pros and cons of getting the 17 C instead of the 19 C.

The pistosl sizes don't seem to be that great, but having those extra 2 shells seems like the 17 C the better choice. Who has owned both of these guns? I have ben chewing on buy the 17 C for a couple of weeks now, and keep going back and forth. I don't need another carry gun. I have a 26, 30 and 36 so I am chock full of sub compacts. I wanted a high capacity range gun and I just have the feeling there may be a time when we won't be able to buy a 17 round gun anymore the way things are going.

 

There are no cons.

I have over 10k through my G23C, and 3k through my G24C

 

What about the 17 C. What ar ethe pros and cons of getting the 17 C instead of the 19 C.

The pistosl sizes don't seem to be that great, but having those extra 2 shells seems like the 17 C the better choice. Who has owned both of these guns? I have ben chewing on buy the 17 C for a couple of weeks now, and keep going back and forth. I don't need another carry gun. I have a 26, 30 and 36 so I am chock full of sub compacts. I wanted a high capacity range gun and I just have the feeling there may be a time when we won't be able to buy a 17 round gun anymore the way things are going.

You could always purchase 17 round mags and use them in a 19.

 

What about the 17 C. What ar ethe pros and cons of getting the 17 C instead of the 19 C.

The pistosl sizes don't seem to be that great, but having those extra 2 shells seems like the 17 C the better choice. Who has owned both of these guns? I have ben chewing on buy the 17 C for a couple of weeks now, and keep going back and forth. I don't need another carry gun. I have a 26, 30 and 36 so I am chock full of sub compacts. I wanted a high capacity range gun and I just have the feeling there may be a time when we won't be able to buy a 17 round gun anymore the way things are going.

You could always purchase 17 round mags and use them in a 19.

The G17C is perfect for people with bigger hands and smaller hands the G19C. The G17C has less recoil than the G19C. The G17C is bigger and has a longer sight radius just like the G17 and G19. I prefer the G19/G23/G32/G38 models to the full size because of the grip length. If the G17C fits your hand better get it. You will see many posts here on the G17 vs G19. Also the mags are 17 vs 15 but you can use the 17 rounders in the G19.

 

The C models are very under rated!
The "night blind" phenomenon is VERY over rated, basically BS!

They do attract lint, but nothing that one minute with a cloth, CLP & a boresnake can't handle.

 

Glocks. There are no bad choices.

 

I have a ton of fun with my G32C in .357 sig!

 

I would get the 19 just so you can shoot it in IDPA matches. Recoil in 9mm is light enough that there is no need for a comp.

 

I love my G19C...was my 1st Glock!

Red:thumbsup:

 

Sorry there are no CONS when your talking about any glock model.

 

I loved the way mine shot, but the noise level is more than I want if I have to shoot it unprotected. It could have the effect of a stun grenade.

 

Don't get me wrong if you viewed my videos. I do like shooting my 19c. Very accurate and fun to shoot.

Very loud though! Took a shot without ear protection and it really messed up my ears. Went to the Dr. a week later to get some ear drops because of problems in my left ear.

I ordered a Storm Lake barrel for mine. Will have the best of both worlds now.

 

I prefer the 19 as I don't like the porting. But I would not worry about the 19C.

 

I have a G17, G17C, G19, and a G19C. I've shot them side-by-side, alternating shots with the same ammo. Yes, there is a difference in muzzle flip, but it is not a big difference, and most users will have to practice quite a bit with the "C" model to take advantage of it. As said above, you can always drop in a non-ported barrel for defensive use, if you're nervous about the additional noise/flash/debris from a ported weapon. Personally, it doesn't concern me too much. All handguns are loud if you have no ear protection, all will have some flash from the muzzle if ammo is not carefully selected, and I actually consider the potential for flying debris/gasses as a feature, not a bug, keeping the bad guy's hand off my gun after that first shot (if I was dumb enough to get too close).

 

For target your ok with a "c" for any kind of defense skip a "c" and get the 19.

 

Pros: There are no cons.

Cons: See "Pros"

 

It depends on what you like.

 

Pros: There are no cons.

Cons: See "Pros"

This.^^^^

 

I wanted a C model big time. I had over 10 people talk me out of it and they had them.
Might get me one day. :dunno:

 

I could see reduced muzzle velocity, more noise, muzzle flash, melted/burnt front sight, possible injury from rubbish if shot close to body as well as the blast felt by the comps..
Also extra cleaning required of the barrel & slide to remove the carbon after shooting, On some comp guns I've shot it took forever & strong solvents + alot of work to get the comps clean, this was on Colt 45s, SIG P220Sport & HK USP Match..
The only Pro I could see if it would reduce muzzle flip which in a 9mm is minimal to start with, on a 40, 45 or 10mm it would reduce recoil slightly more..
I'm not trying to flame the C models as I also have thought about getting a G19C myself.

 

I'm looking for a G19, and was considering a 19c. Is the felt recoil that much less with the C? I've read that the porting makes the barrel much dirtier,and that the flash is distracting. Due to Arthritis in my hand and wrist, which has gotten worse recently, I am more sensative to felt recoil. Should I still consider the !9c?

I wasn't going to answer this; but, then, I saw the word, 'arthritis'. So, here goes:

1. Yes, single shot recoil will be SLIGHTLY less - Say, about, 4%. You might, however, experience a significant reduction in recoil during rapid fire - Say, about, 8 to 12%.

2. I don't know what you're using this pistol for; but, if you're not carrying, you might want to look at an extra Lone Wolf extended barrel, and honest-to-goodness muzzle compensator. A setup like this is going to give you the greatest amount of recoil reduction on both single shot and rapid fire.

3. I've used extended and muzzle-ported barrels on most of my semi-autos for the past 35 years. A muzzle-ported barrel doesn't flash anymore than a regular barrel; and muzzle-porting is definitely not dirtier to fire. (I'll show you a picture.)

4. I'm not a fan of Glock's slide-ported pistols. I'm not going to contradict anybody; this setup does work; but, it's definitely not for me. (That, 'C' designation is, by the way, a misnomer. The factory actually meant, 'ported'.)

5. I've often fired my muzzle-ported pistols in darkened rooms. The flash is about the same, depends a lot on what the powder is, and is often far less noticeable than what comes out of a lot of revolvers - Especially snub-nosed revolvers.

Here's that picture - http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/6553/100rounds.jpg I took it after firing 100 rounds of filthy dirty WWB through the gun.

And, here's one more while I have my picture account open - http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/9883/yahoocopyofg21.jpg This is my usual EDC; and it's what I'd want to be holding onto if, 'the fertilizer were ever to hit the ventilator'.

Good luck to you!

 

OH!!
After seeing that barrel I forgot about the Beretta92FS I had that with the compensated EFK Fire Dragon barrel, It didn't shoot as good as the factory one.. It looked good, Glad I only spent $20 on that barrel, Or I would have been really mad, It should have cost $125..
My 17L will outshoot it, Even though the action of the Beretta was smoother.
I,d say it has to do with the rifling of the Glock & the 6" barrel lenth..
A buddy of mine still has this Pistola..