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OP - you might be using the same vendor I use because I had the same predicament yesterday.

Apparently TargetSportsUSA has standard pressure in stock, albeit more $$$ than what I usually pay from a smaller vendor. I ordered the 124+P in the meantime to test it out.

The responses on my thread indicated some have it, some are also sold out and backordered.
 
It certainly isn't wrong. Any of the four rounds above will do the job as well as any 9mm can.

Yeah, I've seen that +P might stress out the BHP so the standard pressure will be good!
 
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How old is the BHP, and is it all steel? Normally I wouldn't think twice about shooting +P ammo out of full size gun of modern manufacture.
Built in 1975 and yes, all steel!
 
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I've got the 147 standard pressure on the way, so I'll be testing it while I keep a good supply of my 124 standard pressure for the 43 and the 26 (Gen 5). I'll let you know how it works out in both guns.
 
I saw tests on YouTube that showed the standard HST penetrated better than +p. The HST +p expanded the hollow point more but didn’t increase penetration. I use standard HST as a result. I don’t want the extra recoil and noise.
 
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Seems that the original poster's question has been sufficiently answered, but why not one more? Like a lot of the other responders, I have used all of the rounds in question, and all are good performers in my Glocks. I "prefer" regular 124 HST but currently have a large quantity of 124 +P HST, as well as a bunch of regular 147 HST. It seems to me that there isn't that much difference between a regular Federal HST load and a +P load, so I am fine with the regular 124. Really, sometimes it comes down to what is available as the determining factor.
 
The 9mm HSTs are one set of loadings where the +Ps don't seem to have much, if any advantage over the standard pressure loadings. Sometimes the +P overexpand and underpenetrate. The one type of gun where I'd be inclined to use the +P is those with shorter barrels (say 3.5" or less.) The higher chamber pressure can get the velocity where it should be if shot out of a 4" barrel.
 
I carry either one of these in my G17 (whatever SG has in quantity). Both feed well.
Don't have any short-barrel 9mm pistols. Per Lucky Gunner.
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The Lucky Gunner tests do show a 37 fps gain for the HST 124+P over the 124 from the 3.5" M&Pc. Not enough to worry about IMO. I don't think +P starts to make enough of a difference until you hit 4".

Although for the 147+P the difference is 39 fps and on a percentage basis that is a bit more. Still probably not enough to worry about.
 
When shooting the 147 and 147+P the recoil feels almost like a .22 to me.

In my old age the difference between them and the 124+P is pretty significant. Years ago I wouldn't have noticed the difference. Maybe I need to start working out again.

Regards,
Happyguy :)
 
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The plus 124+p hst is actually the right pressure and the standard 124 hst is on the hot side that’s why it’s not a big difference in FPS in a full size 4-4.5 inch barrel I’ll take the +p due to little higher energy and will aid In cycling if dirty conditions the +p actually penetrate deeper in all barrier testing Gary Roberts confirmed that along with tnoutdoor9
The 9mm HSTs are one set of loadings where the +Ps don't seem to have much, if any advantage over the standard pressure loadings. Sometimes the +P overexpand and underpenetrate. The one type of gun where I'd be inclined to use the +P is those with shorter barrels (say 3.5" or less.) The higher chamber pressure can get the velocity where it should be if shot out of a 4" barrel.
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The plus 124+p hst is actually the right pressure and the standard 124 hst is on the hot side that’s why it’s not a big difference in FPS in a full size 4-4.5 inch barrel I’ll take the +p due to little higher energy and will aid In cycling if dirty conditions the +p actually penetrate deeper in all barrier testing Gary Roberts confirmed that along with tnoutdoor9
When did tnoutdoors9 do barrier testing? Standard pressure does barriers just fine. And besides, if there is little to no velocity difference there is no difference in barrier performance.

https://le.vistaoutdoor.com/downloads/catalogs/HSTInsertPoster.pdf

If +P cycles harder then that also means more recoil. I don't need more of that with small guns, but it is an interesting point to consider.
 
When did tnoutdoors9 do barrier testing? Standard pressure does barriers just fine.

https://le.vistaoutdoor.com/downloads/catalogs/HSTInsertPoster.pdf

If +P cycles harder then that also means more recoil. I don't need more of that with small guns, but it is an interesting point to consider.
Tn did sim test the +p went deeper and Gary Roberts did barrier testing and it aced the windshield test not many can do that and hold near percent weight it was 123grains and 14 inches penetration 9mm doesn’t recoil hard that’s like saying 5.56 recoil is too much over 223
 
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