I wanna know what those 230s chrono at.

I don't load .45, just .40. Red dot is faster than green dot/bullseye. Not sure how that's going to work out for you.

PS, where in NC are you? I bounce between New Bern and Raleigh. Going to a match Saturday in Oxford if you want to come shoot some zombies..... http://zombieshootersassociation.com/

 

Sweet, might take you up on that. I'm in Raleigh. Send me a PM, sounds fun.

You mean to say they might not work out, like dangerous? I know they'll move around 800fps, but I don't think they should be dangerous. I have data that says they should be fine, but should be within max, especially with my longer COALs.

Unfortunately I won't have chrono tomorrow. Though I might this weekend.

My data:

230gr Carroll Cast Lead RN bullet, 4.8gr Red Dot
824FPS
Remarks: case: Speer; primer: WLP; near max; accurate

230gr Bull-X Cast Lead FN, 4.7gr Red Dot
808FPS
Remarks: case: W-W; primer: WLP; near max; best accuracy this bullet

230gr Speer RNL, 4.5gr Red Dot
766FPS
Remarks: primer: F 150; O.A. Ctg. Lgt.: 1.272; case expansion normal; not sufficiently accurate

 

Red DOt works fine in the 45acp, then almost anything does. I have loaded 200gr w/ 5gr, makes just under 900fps in a 5", very accurate. One of my friends shoots nothing but RD in his 45acp, even though I have been trying to get him to use WST.

 

Good to hear.

The pistol match Saturday has been moved to be run alongside with Sundays 3 gun because of the weather forecast. Check out zombieshootersassociation.com and the ZSA Facebook page for more info. We also do First-Tuesday evening matches at 37PSR in Bunnlevel.

 

I have used between 4.0 and 4.5 grains of Red Dot with 200 grain and 230 grain 45 bullets without any problems. At 4.0 grains, in my Colt 1911, I had to make sure to hold the gun properly so as not to get a "limp wrist" feed malfunction. I'd have to look at my notes, but I believe I settled for 4.2 grains with both 200 and 230's, which made for some nice soft shooting rounds.

Steve

 

I found some standard bullseye competition loads online and Red Dot was one of the powders used. It was a list of recipes that since they were so below max, basically said something to the effect of "4.x grains of Bullseye, Red Dot, and some other powders with a 200 grain LSWC."

If bullseye shooters are happy to use it, it will be good to go. Personally, I consider all fast powders to be interchangeable as to their use. Not that the data is interchangeable, but that there isn't much difference in them for a specific use. If Bullseye is good for lighter loads with cast bullets, Red Dot will be also. One advantage to Red Dot is that it is bulky. It makes it much easier to see if a charge is skipped or doubled. If I ever finish my 8# jug of Bullseye, I will probably replace it with a jug of Red Dot for that reason.

As for loading long, as long as they fit in your chamber, you're good to go. Some 45 aCP guns have very short leades and will fail to chamber longer rounds.

 

One advantage to Red Dot is that it is bulky. It makes it much easier to see if a charge is skipped or doubled. If I ever finish my 8# jug of Bullseye, I will probably replace it with a jug of Red Dot for that reason.
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Why I chose RD for my 45colt loads when I was shooting CAS. TrailBoss wasn't out yet & Unique was pretty dirty unless you ran hevier bullets @ pretty good vel. I also loaded my 12ga for CAS with it, so it did double duty.:wavey:

 

I use it for my 1 oz slug loads with a standard trap load. When it's gone, I'm going to use Bullseye for the slug loads and just have one fast powder. In a few years when the BE is gone, being used for pistol as well, I'll need another jug of fast powder. I'll probably get a keg of RD. I have too many powders for my taste and I am looking to use up some of the 1#'ers I have to simplify my cabinet.

I have a half dozen or so partial cans of IMR rifle powders that were brought by my old club when a senior member passed away. I want to start casting for my '06 to use them up in plinking loads. Then I'll just have Unique, a jug of fast powder, Lil'gun for 357Mag, and H414.

 

I really can't say about 45 but RD is a good powder for 38 special.

 

Shot these off today. No chrono, but with the ol' wrist gauge I would say the 230s (lead) over 4.5 were moving 800fps or more, and the 200s over 5.0 were pretty stiff too, but on point, capable of very consistent hits on an IPSC torso sized target at 50 yards.

Also shot some 9mm, 4.2gr Red Dot with a magnum primer. This is a good load, and is moving plenty fast. Red Dot's not a bad powder in 9 either.

Bullseye and Power Pistol still meter much better than Red Dot, but it doesn't matter that much--on both my Dillon and Lee measures, I'm seeing less than 0.1gr variance. In a world where Bullseye's a bit fast and Unique's too slow, the argument can be made that Red Dot's juuuuust right.

Tosh, I'd love to shoot with y'all sometime for sure, but I have commitments this Sunday.

 

RD seems to hover around Bullseye's burning rate. In some calibers, the RD charges and velocities are a little higher, and in others they are a little lower. This is in the same manuals, so it's pretty much apples:apples.

 

RD seems to hover around Bullseye's burning rate. In some calibers, the RD charges and velocities are a little higher, and in others they are a little lower. This is in the same manuals, so it's pretty much apples:apples.

I was given a pound of Green Dot and everything I looked at showed it being within .2gr of Bullseye. :dunno:

 

I really can't say about 45 but RD is a good powder for 38 special.

COnsider they operate in the same pressures zone, RD is equally good in 45acp.