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Colt Gold Cup Lite - what it is and how it's different from the Colt Competition

28K views 32 replies 15 participants last post by  army_eod  
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I think that in middle of 2018, Colt's Facebook page had a video showing a quick blurb on a Gold Cup Lite with the explanation that it's for those who wants a Gold Cup but not wanting to spend the $1699 MSRP or not needing/wanting checkered front & back straps and mag well funnel.

Since then there was nothing else on Colt's Facebook page and none listed on Colt's own website. As of today, there's still nothing mentioned on Colt's own website for this Gold Cup Lite, but I digress. I thought that it was vaporware until my local shop that knows how I like my .38 Super Colts called and said, "Hey, we got a Gold Cup Lite in your favorite caliber, interested?" I replied, "I'll be there in five minutes."

Just for grins and giggles, I asked the shop where they got the gun from and they said Lipsey's. Lo and behold, Lipsey's listed the Lite with MSRP of $1249. The .38 Super Competition has an MSRP of $1049.

http://lipseys.com/itemdetail.aspx?itemno=COO5073GCL

My pre-tax prices for both the Competition (purchased in 2017) and Gold Cup Lite were $900 and $1100 respectively. So, for $200 difference, what does one get for a Gold Cup Lite over a Competition?

Let's talk about what one DOESN'T get for 200 smackaroos more in the case of the Lite:

1. One doesn't get replacement fiber optics rods. The Competition comes with a package of several replacement fiber optics rods in red, green and blue.

2. One also doesn't get an extra mag. Apparently Colt is cost cutting by shipping with one mag - I got a confirmation from Colt's Facebook reply on it.


3. One does not get an extra recoil spring either, but I think it has to do with Colt turning the Gold Cup Trophy into an action pistol instead of a bullseye pistol (which the Gold Cup National Match is still being made for). It comes with the double springs setup like the Competition series. I haven't seen the full blown revised Gold Cup so I don't know if it sports the same double springs setup.



However, one DOES get a few things more for that $200:

1. One gets an allen wrench for the rear sight adjustment AND a barrel bushing wrench. I have no idea what I'm supposed to do with the barrel bushing wrench since that the bushing is not fitted and can be turned by hand.


2. One gets the Bomar knock-off since that Bomar is now defunct.





3. One gets the silver wide target trigger bow versus the slim trigger bow on the Competition. Interestingly enough, the Trophy has the wide trigger bow but in black instead of silver.



4. One gets the cool "Gold Cup Trophy" markings
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What are the same between the Competition and the Lite?

1. Blue G10 grips are the same.
2. Barrels are the same. They both marked "Colt Super 38 Auto NM"

3. Front sights are the same.
4. Fit and Finish are the same.
5. Trigger pulls are the same.
6. They even shoot the same mechanical accuracy - which is to say pretty damn sweet.

That said, I like shooting the Lite just a "hair" more due to my finding the fake Bomar's sight picture more palatable AND I kinda like the feel of the wide trigger. However, for all practical purposes, they're pretty much the same.

Let's say that I'm a shooter who wants a Colt .38 Super but can only afford one or the other, I'd say go with the Competition. I don't think that the Bomar knock-off and the wide trigger bow are really worth the $200 price differential.
 
Discussion starter · #6 ·
_Next up for comparison 'fnfalman'. Coming soon in your favorite, .38 Super!

Custom Competition SS (.45)

The Custom Competition is a hand fit Series 70 Competition Pistol assembled by the Master Gunsmiths in the Colt Custom Shop. Features include a fully blended Magwell, and 25lpi Front Strap checkering. National Match® Barrel and Fully Adjustable Bomar Style Rear Sight ensures the utmost accuracy.

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.45? Yuck!!!
 
Discussion starter · #14 ·
I am still enjoying my 2018 GCT Lite in 38 Super. I compare it to my 2015 GCT in 45ACP where I did replace the rubber wrap around grips with some wood stocks from Altamont.



So far I am very happy with the purchase.
Are those grip panels natural wood or laminated wood?

It seems to me that the laminated wood is rather slick/slippery even when checkered.
 
Discussion starter · #17 ·
The Altamont wood grips are fine when wet. I do know what you are talking about however. I have some wood grips from the old Ajax Co. on one 1911 and they do get slippery when wet.
Thanks for the heads-up. I'll check out Altamont then.

Another interesting thing on my GCT Lite in 38 Super is the orange on the end of the dual springs. This picture was after I got it and cleaning the interesting shipping goo off that Colt puts on. Sort of sticky with a petroleum smell. I wonder if the 9mm GCTs have orange on the end of the dual springs.



My 2017 GCNM in 9mm came with only one single spring which was in the pistol but it had green on the end....... of course.


Interesting about the colored tips of the recoil springs. I "don't" think that my Competition .38 Supers have colored tips. Gonna have to pull one tonight and see if the recoil spring is colored.

The only Gold Cup National Match I have are the two .45s and I also don't think the recoil springs are color coded. With this dual-springs fad from Colt, I must wonder if the current Gold Cup National Match still come with single spring.
 
Discussion starter · #19 ·
I just picked up a new GCNM today. Single spring/standard guide rod setup. The National Match now only comes with one 8 round blued magazine, but retains the standard recoil spring as well as the green-marked light spring for competition loads.

First range session tonight...trying different mags to see what it likes. Only 1 FTF (nose dive) on the second mag through the pistol (the ETM). 150 rounds total, a complete pleasure and breeze to shoot!
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I wish that Colt would chamber this bad mamajama in .38 Super.
 
Discussion starter · #20 ·
I here is the photo of the recoil springs between the .38 Super Gold Cup Lite and Competition.

It looks like the same setup, but the color looks more like red than orange to me.

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Discussion starter · #22 ·
Sad that Colt no longer provides the second mag with the GCNM. I think in Nov. of last year is when they announced they would only provide one mag with a new pistol. More interesting is it looks like they are no longer putting the caliber on the 45ACP. I noticed this when I bought the 9mm in 2017. Here with my 45 I bought new in 2015.



I did have thoughts of fitting a 38 Super barrel (probably with its own bushing) to the 9mm GCNM by the way, and that may still happen. I think I will also have to redo the ejector if I do that, but that is not a huge thing.
The .45 still has the caliber marking but the 9mm doesn’t have caliber marking.

Sure I can get a 9mm and concert to .38 Super but I want them from the factory.