[fnfalman]

Criterion.
Alexander Arms.

EDIT: I listed barrels, not rifles.

Interesting that you mentioned Criterion. Don't they button rifle their barrels?

 

[rds95991]

Two of my more accurate AR's use CHF barrels, but the manufacturing process may not be the reason. You have to consider barrel harmonics, barrel weight and contour, twist, manufacturing tolerences, etc.

Unfortunately, I don't have two uppers with the exact same barrel specs manufactured different ways to compare.

 

[Big Bird]

Is FN putting 'premium match grade' barrels on their FN-15?
No. They're putting a cheap broached barrel on the rifle and talking it up. Meanwhile; they sell hammer forged AR barrels to PSA and talk those up too. Which one performs better? I don't have a clue. Does it matter? No, it does not matter to someone buying an FN-15 nor to someone buying a PSA complete upper using an FN-CHF barrel. Those customers are nowhere near the market of 'premium match grade barrels.' Their entire rifle costs what a precision barrel costs before being chambered.



Any run of the mill AR should be putting a 1 minute group down with good ammo. A 'sniper rifle' should be at least 1/3-1/2 minute capable.

I agree with Big Bird regarding shooters vs. equipment. Know what sets good shooters apart from gun enthusiasts that think they can buy accuracy? A $200 pellet rifle and a 10 meter range.

If that is the case, why are you the only person you know to wear one out?

Because once most highpower shooters leg out they move on from shooting service rifle and get into other disciplines such as unlimited NRA HP Rifle etc where the equipment is a little easier to shoot with. It would be unfair to say I'm the ONLY one I know. But in casual company...meaning not serious competitors...I'm the only one.

Hell, in ten years in the Army in the 80's and 90's...having literally hundreds of rifles on my property book and in my Arms Rooms I've only seen maybe two coded out for barrel wear and of those all were Vietnam era A1's.

YMMV

 

[toshbar]

Let me rephrase my question to you.

Since that you said for an AR that sees high volume shots inside 400-yards, it does not matter if the barrel is rifled via button broach method, are you then saying that for precision shooting a barrel is better off being made and rifled with cold hammer forged method?

What I said regarded 400 yard shots from a standard sub $1000 AR for Joe Blow buying his first AR to play with on Saturday afternoon in the woods. I did not mention at all anything about precision rifles, barrels, or shooting and I don't know why you keep bringing it up.

 

[Big Bird]

I don't know where you buy your precision rifle barrels from but the last Krieger hand cut, hand lapped barrel I had a gunsmith screw on a rifle was about $350'ish for the barrel... Far far below what a gun costs...

In fact here are some Krieger match grade AR barrels for $320 ish....getting it installed a chamber cut might run $120 or so depending on who does it.

I always figure a new match barrel will run me about $500 installed when I wear one out...so far that's about right.

You can buy a Douglas stainless match grade button rifled barrel for less than $200 if you look around. I think Champions Choice in Nashville has them. They are a good barrel for the money. I shot my way into Master Class using Douglas Match grade barrels...