Nice. Congrats.
Went to my FFL the other day to check it out. Feels good in hand. Trigger felt good. Maybe get one in the future. But is it better than my Glocks. Not sure about that. Time will be the judge I guess.

 

Nice. Congrats.
Went to my FFL the other day to check it out. Feels good in hand. Trigger felt good. Maybe get one in the future. But is it better than my Glocks. Not sure about that. Time will be the judge I guess.

That's relative. I love my Glocks, the G19 is my all time favorite. Was the Echelon more accurate than my G17's? Nope, same. Better ergo's IMO and trigger. Some like the chassis system, I don't really care. I grew up shooting Glock's, my first handgun purchased was a Gen G21. This gun kinda reminds me of my SS MR920 Combat but a better trigger and less expensive.

 

Two negative things. One is the small slide release, just don't like it. I have large hands but used the medium grip, the large grip backstrap works but the small won't lock in. Not a big deal but it is defective.

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They are supposed to have S, M and L grip modules.
Looks like a nice pistol.

 

Hey @bunk22

Thanks for the range report, seems SA/HS really thought the design out and now with the aftermarket (Taran Tactical and I am sure others) jumping on the bandwagon it will be a good seller.

I suggested SA use the catch phrase "Better Perfection, but for adults"

How does the frame material feel? More like a Glock/HK/Sig like or CZ/IWI ?

 

Same to me. Though the grip texture is really good, doesn't tear the skin up but held firm in my sweaty hands yesterday

 

Bought mine on the first day it came out. Got about the same amount of rounds through it. Wow, very impressed. No hiccups or anything.

 

I just want to say my wallet hates you guys

 

I'm like, do I pay this bill or buy a gun? Buy the gun!

 

Held one today at my LGS. I will have one in the near future. Feels very nice in the hand. Nice trigger and very short reset.

 

Don't need a gun in this size. Assuming this is the start of a new line, and waiting to see what other models they release. But the platform seems like a winner.

 

Glad to hear you like it Bunk!

I’m torn between this and the DR920 Elite because of the optics mounts. The difference in cost isn’t a factor. The only thing that has me leaning toward the DR920 is that it takes Glock mags.

 

I handled one of those last week for the first time. Felt good in hand

 

...yesterday. Not like it needed a break-in but shot 500 rounds, half JHP and half FMJ, no issues at all. I did lube it out of the box, so there is that. I aad to sight in my Holosun and attached one of my cheapo Olights. The trigger feels like a 6lb-ish trigger but we measured it at just under 5lbs at the range. What can I say, accurate, great ergo's, good trigger, etc. I love Glocks but this my favorite polymer gun atm. I will buy more.

Two negative things. One is the small slide release, just don't like it. I have large hands but use the medium grip, the large grip works but the small won't lock in. Not a big deal but it is defective.

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We've come across a few of these at the gun store. The slide release is so poorly designed. We can remove a P320 FCU in maybe 8 seconds, it took 2 of our employees and 15 minutes to remove the FCU on the Springfield. Feels quite blocks. I will definitely stick to my Glocks and SIGs. Give it a few months and these will be $400.

 

Good to know. Nothing worse than being in a gun fight and not being able to remove the FCU in under 10 seconds. Seeing as I can remove the FCU in my G19 in....wait
I'm gonna hold out for the $400 sale.

 

I’d buy two at 400$ 😜

 

I gotta admit, it's a really nice looking gun. Springfield is coming out with some interesting stuff lately. They just released a 22LR bolt action rifle today. I can't wait to see reviews for that.

 

 

Shot my friends Sunday at the range and they are nice shooters.Think we ran 200 rounds or so through it with no issues.I may pick one up in a few weeks once they get back in stock at my LGS.

 

It looks really nice that’s for sure, so did the hellcat/hellcat pro. I’m giving this one a season or so to see how it pans out and how revisions look. And if someone above mentioned, I’m interested to see where they go with this design in the compact and subcompact realm.

I got to be honest, I still to this day do not understand the allure of an isolated fire control group

edit: actually, I do see how a serialize fire control group is a win in horrible states like California.

 

Could someone give me an idea of how the weight compares to a Glock or an M&P 2.0

 

 

It appears more like a slide-stop. Anyways , I dont use the slide-stop as a "release" anyways. I'd be happy if Glock and others offered a slide-stop delete and just use an empty magazine to lock the slide open like the CZ P10M does.

 

...yesterday. Not like it needed a break-in but shot 500 rounds, half JHP and half FMJ, no issues at all. I did lube it out of the box, so there is that. I aad to sight in my Holosun and attached one of my cheapo Olights. The trigger feels like a 6lb-ish trigger but we measured it at just under 5lbs at the range. What can I say, accurate, great ergo's, good trigger, etc. I love Glocks but this my favorite polymer gun atm. I will buy more.

Two negative things. One is the small slide release, just don't like it. I have large hands but use the medium grip, the large grip works but the small won't lock in. Not a big deal but it is defective.

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Handsome piece and has some very nice features but as yet only available in 9mm.

I have one Glock - a G21 Gen4 and am looking for a G30 Gen4. Why? Simple (to me) both are .45ACP and can use the 13rd G21 mags.

Don't misunderstand; I have 9mms and have owned/used a bucket full of them.
My favs are the HP or its clones and CZ75/75 because the form factor is very HP and even though DA/SA they can be treated like an HP - Condition One carry.

My 1st preference is any decent 1911 - decent for me nowadays means better sights to support my waning vision and of course a well setup trigger.

When I find a good DS 1911 in 5" & 4.25", I'll probably move the G21 along. Until then, that's my go-to. It eats everything I feed it, is accurate and almost beyond belief reliable.

On 2nd thought, I might keep it; kicking a good friend to the kerb for something more aesthetically pleasing would be poor form.

But 1st, I need that DS 1911.

 

The Echelon is something I will definitely have to look at and if it feels good in my hand I'll likely get one. I particularly like being able to mount a RDS without a plate or having to send the slide off to be milled. Speed in taking out the FCU is not important to me, it's not something I would do often and I like the ability to change chassis and grip inserts to customize the fit.

• 3 Grip Sizes
  Alternative grip modules give shooters the ability to find a configuration that fits them best. Available in small, medium, and large, each grip module accepts the Central Operating Group and all three backstraps.

 

I keep trying to find the grip modules to see the size difference but from that same picture I see everywhere I can’t tell

 

I am very curious in the durability of the optic mounting system.

An ACRO on the Echelon seems like an awesome combo

 

Springfield expects the grip modules August 15 and retail price $65.

 

It's the Slide Catch/Stop. Was/Is never intended to be used as a release (be prepared for the slide to automatically rack whenever you load a magazine because you wore out the edge of the slide STOP using it to release the slide). See it all the time and then they ask me why - this is why

 

isn't that a feature? Thats pretty much how I release my Glock slides by driving the mag home.

 

Then your slide stop is worn (or magazine follower spring isn't pushing up hard enough on the stop/catch) because it NEVER should automatically release that easily- SERIOUS
(known to cause negligent discharges if people aren't practicing proper finger discipline)
Fire arms instructors are VERY strict about this

LEO's are the worst for incorrectly racking the slide
One good thing
Part is pretty easy to replace and may as well go with an extended version (ghost or better) because it's easier to get your thumb on

 

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Please provide the make/model of these defective firearms so they can pulled from the shelves
NO manufacturer can release a firearm if it doesn't pass tests

 

Lol