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Bobbed hammer revolvers?

10K views 36 replies 25 participants last post by  Ordell Robbie  
#1 ·
I'm getting interested in the idea of a bobbed hammer revolver.

Happy with my 642, 5 shot snubbie, internal hammer. But now Kimber has come out and said why not have 6 shots?

Hmm, does that mean I have to now find a 2-3" K frame and bob the hammer and put small grips on it? Or maybe I can find such a gun already out there ready to rock n roll? Do any of you GT'rs favor a spurless carry revolver?

This may be my new quest :)
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#2 ·
I had a Model 64 that had a factory DAO trigger/ bobbed hammer.

Mine was a 4" but surely they must have mad them in 2"

I had issues with a Model 586. Everytime I pushed on the cocked hammer it would fall. Bobbed it and it looked pretty dorky.

I think the factory bobbed looks way better than a bubba'd bobbed.
 
#3 ·
Bobbed doesn't change much. Reducing the mass of the hammer can/will have a significant change in trigger Pull and ignition. My revolvers set up for playing games have well over half the mass removed from the hammers. Down side is you need to taylor your loads to the gun.
 
#7 ·
I've only read, and don't know if true, that a bobbed hammer has more speed in the hammer drop, and since relying on the spring anyway, it shouldn't affect ignition. Just talking about the spur reduction, not trying to purposely reduce mass.

For the ones that did affect ignition (misfires) I wonder if there was also some sort of spring/action job done on them that made them too light?

The only reason I'm thinking about a bobbed hammer is for drawing from concealed carry. I favor the centennial design. A rare version of the bodyguard design in a higher capacity revolver is the S&W 242. There's one on gunbroker right now going for starting bid of $1795 :)
 
#12 ·
My daily carry for the last 12 years has been a 442 with the concealed hammer.

I used to have a model 10 with a do it yourself bobbed hammer. I have never missed the hammer before.

I make it a habit not to cock the hammer on my revolvers that have them anyway. I treat a revolver as DAO.

A 3" K frame makes a sweet carry gun, but only for weather where OWB and a cover garment garment are acceptable.
 
#14 ·
Ithaca several of my revolvers run in the 5# trigger range with 100 per cent reliability. Trick is loading ammo for the gun and for reliability. Mine run on Federal primers that are fully seated. You can make a trigger too light but realistically it isn't hard to have reliability and a nice trigger, just requires an understanding of the entire package and how everything works together.
Top photo is 327JM with Carmonized hammer
Lower photo is 627 with Randy Lee hammer from Apex

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#18 ·
I had a Model 60 with a bobbed hammer. Never had any problem with it firing at rounds I cared to put in it. Another gun I should have kept.
 
#20 ·
I own a revolver with a factory bobbed hammer. I never carry revolvers unless it's a hunting revolver, but that's different.

If I was going to CCW carry a revolver for some reason, the bobbed hammer one is the only one I'd carry. Just too much chance of the hammer hanging things up, or me reflexively cocking it in a defensive situation.

I do my real long range shooting with full size revolvers and really like the single action function. It's just habit for me to cock a revolver. My hand knows the difference between a revolver and a pistol. Just my preference.
 
#21 ·
I paid a small fortune for a Smith model 65 customized by the late "Smith Custom Shop". It is a 3" barrel, bobbed hammer and the best DA trigger I've ever felt. For Texas heat it is too big for me for CCW unless wearing jacket in the cooler weather. But I bought it to remember what a quality S&W was like and to leave to my son. I also have a Ruger LCR .357 (carry .38+P) and it is one of my favorite CCW-trigger pull is great but trigger reset sucks, takes lots of practice to not short stroke. Might get a 642/442 one day.
 
#23 ·
I carried this nickel model 36 for many years in an off duty and plainclothes capacity. It came out of a jacket pocket easily and was utterly reliable. Model 60's were like hen's teeth, so the nickel was my best choice for a finish.

 
#24 ·
I've got a ( don't laugh) Taurus Ultra Lite mod 85? 2" 5rd. Has an external hammer that is a small serrated nub. It can be thumb cocked for SA, and if you blow on the trigger it will fire. It's my between the seats truck gun. Shot countless rds through it with no problems. 7 yds DA, can hit chest every time. SA, at 10 yds I can do head shots. Even at 25 yds, SA it'll hit some part of body mass. It's a lot of fun to shoot just to see what I can do with a 2" barrel. It's kinda my beater.
 
#26 ·
With a bobbed hammer on a gun that hasn't be converted to DAO, it isn't hard to pull the hammer back part way using the trigger and then catch the hammer with your thumb and then pull it all the way back to cock it.

Here's my bobbed hammer gun. It's a Lew Horton model 24 44 special that was stored in a closet and a roof leak caused the gun to rust. I knew a gunsmith at the time who removed the adjustable sights, welded up the top strap and cut in fixed sights like a model 58 N frame M&P and created a front sight to match. I filed the bird's head grip down flat to make the gun even more compact. With the short, tapered barrel, fixed sights, shortened grip, and bobbed hammer, it's about as compact as an N-frame Smith & Wesson can get.

But those grips really fit my hand well and even with some stout 44 special reloads the gun is controllable and accurate. I like either 200 grain Hornady XTP's or cast 190 grain full wadcutters @ 1000 fps. At first, I did a bead blast and blue finish an then later I had it cerekoted. I consider it the ultimate belly gun or "Pocket Rocket".

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#33 ·
Not exactly my carry gun but this is what I like for a CCW BUG. This is my stuffed in the chair cushion gun.
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Yep, me too. Have 2 Airlite PD's. Love em.

No bobbed for me, the hammer can still foul when shot through clothes in my pocket. I only go hammer or hammerless for revs.

I carry with no holster in my hoody pocket or a vest pocket...comfortable and easy as it gets. If things get worse then will have to be uncomfortable and carry the Glock and the Airlite
 
#36 ·
View attachment 318346 View attachment 318346 View attachment 318346 About 2 years ago S&W built a 637 performance center model with a really nice trigger and a bobbed hammer. It was called the "gunsmoke" wyatt deep carry. I almost bought one but they were $$$. look for a used one ..they are sweet looking!
That is my "Bobbed Hammer" gun and you'll have to keep looking as I'm keeping mine. I bought it new at cost plus $25, it came with a 'clip grip' so you could hang it on your waistband IWB, I went with a Ergo Delta grip though (As does my 38 LCR) Love the 637, the light weight will punish you using +P. I never tried Borg Warner's technique, but I might have to unload the gun and see. This particular gun's trigger is very smooth and relatively light weight pull for a Double Action
 
#35 ·
Five shot cylinders have a major advantage. They eject easier than six or seven shot cylinders because of less spent case mouth drag on the chamber rings. This is why many professionals carry 38+P rounds in a 357.

Hammerless such as Smith & Wesson's SC340 are the absolute best CC revolvers. No snag or rips; no accelerated frame or pin wear from cocking; less cleaning for the action parts.

It only takes 3/4" of rifling on a snub to be lethal at 50', so less than 2", like on the SC340's 1.7", is more than ample.

If you really want to toss $ at a great revolver, Nighthawk & Kroth have a Skyhawk in 9mm (but has a hammer spur) and it would be the best action - up to this date - for any revolver in history.