[TacDad]

What's up Glocktalkers,

I just picked up some berry's plated 40sw 180 gr flat points that I was going to load up tonight . Anybody have good luck with these? What type of powder loads where you using ?

 

[G19 DB]

I load mainly berry's in my glocks. Mainly use bullseye powder.

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[HAMMERHEAD]

I use the 180s and the new 165 hollow base bullets from Berry's. Universal is my favorite in .40.

 

[DWARREN123]

I use Longshot only in 40 S&W. I use a medium to high medium load.
Keep them under 1,200 FPS and you should have no problems but YMMV, each firearm is a law unto itself.

 

[firefighter4215]

I've used Berry's bullets with Titegroup, but I've never used their 180 grain bullets. I've used the 155 grain bullets with 4.0 grains of Titegroup for my wife to shoot, and 5.9 grains behind a 135 grain bullet too.

 

[greenlion]

I use Berry's exclusively now. 180 and 165gr in .40S&W. Universal powder.

 

[ursoboostd]

I use Berry's and Xtreme plated bullets most of the time.

 

[fredj338]

Berry's shoot fine w/ any number of powders. For best results, DO NOT over crimp. that includes tossing out the LFCD if you use one. Nearly useless for making really accurate plated rounds. My best 1911 & load from 50ft.

 

[MR. TWISTER]

I ordered 1000 165 gr bullets2 weeks ago and they delivered within 1 week. Loaded them up with Titegroup, they shoot very well.

 

[HAMMERHEAD]

Yeah, don't over crimp them, I use no crimp with good results.

 

[tjpet]

What's up Glocktalkers,

I just picked up some berry's plated 40sw 180 gr flat points that I was going to load up tonight . Anybody have good luck with these? What type of powder loads where you using ?

3.8grns. WST with any of Berry's 180s make a great soft practice load. If you ever have the opportunity to try their 180grn.RN do so. They feed soooo slick through an auto. Plenty accurate, too.

 

[TacDad]

I'm using hp-38 with wsp, and cci sp & bb 180 gr rounded fp bullet ..... I heard start with 4.4 , and max out at 5.0 grs. I went to the local box store, and they said longshot works good for 40sw but they were out of it.... I would like to stick with hodgedon any recommendations ?

 

[firefighter4215]

I'm using hp-38 with wsp, and cci sp & bb 180 gr rounded fp bullet ..... I heard start with 4.4 , and max out at 5.0 grs. I went to the local box store, and they said longshot works good for 40sw but they were out of it.... I would like to stick with hodgedon any recommendations ?

Go to Hodgdon's web site and look at the reloading data. You'll find loads with start and max listed, and the associated pressures as well. Longshot gives crazy high velocities for the standard 40 S&W pressure range. The highest load I've chrono'd so far was with a 180 grain Rainier RNFP bullet and 7.5 grains of Longshot. Out of the G22 it was running 1100 fps. New brass for higher loads is on the reloading bench, ready to go, along with some 180 grain Speer TMJ and Hornady XTP's.

 

[fredj338]

Go to Hodgdon's web site and look at the reloading data. You'll find loads with start and max listed, and the associated pressures as well. Longshot gives crazy high velocities for the standard 40 S&W pressure range. The highest load I've chrono'd so far was with a 180 grain Rainier RNFP bullet and 7.5 grains of Longshot. Out of the G22 it was running 1100 fps. New brass for higher loads is on the reloading bench, ready to go, along with some 180 grain Speer TMJ and Hornady XTP's.

Actually you won't find loads because Berry's are plated & Hodgdon uses jacketed data. Bullets are NOT plug & play. It is why many 40 owners KB their guns, making assumptions about loading data & assuming incorrectly. Plated want to be loaded between an all lead & jacketed bullet for correct data. You are actually pushing near the top w/ a plated bullet @ 7.5gr of LS.

 

[jfrey]

Sorry, I don't load .40 but I have loaded thousands of Berry's bullets in 9mm and .45ACP and like them. Just stay mid range in your load and they should be good.

 

[GlockAzona]

Sorry, I don't load .40 but I have loaded thousands of Berry's bullets in 9mm and .45ACP and like them. Just stay mid range in your load and they should be good.

+1

Consider trying Berry's Hollow Base bullets. The HB isn't intended to expand to provide better gas seal as in some other lead hollow base bullets, but, instead, gives the bullet a longer profile & more bearing surface to better stabilize the bullet.

I use Titegroup, WW231 & Longshot for my Berry's bullet loads, all with excellent accuracy & performance.

 

[firefighter4215]

Actually you won't find loads because Berry's are plated & Hodgdon uses jacketed data. Bullets are NOT plug & play. It is why many 40 owners KB their guns, making assumptions about loading data & assuming incorrectly. Plated want to be loaded between an all lead & jacketed bullet for correct data. You are actually pushing near the top w/ a plated bullet @ 7.5gr of LS.

Why is that limited just to .40 owners? 9mm and .357 Sig are also high pressure rounds, right? Anyway, I stopped at 7.5 grains because I was using the wrong bullet and once-fired brass. I figure when you approach the top end you get the correct components. My NEW brass has a trim length between .843 and .845. Hodgdon's data says they used .845 for their tests. I also bought Hornady XTP's to work with, and some Speer TMJ's too, as this will be a woods load.

 

[TacDad]

All right so here is what I ended up with .....

BB 180 gr. rfn once fired brass, cci prmr, and 4.3- 4.5 of hp-38 ( I'm going to stick with the 4.3 ) I also tried 4.8 grns of bullseye, with good results, but will most likely load them at 4.5 grns next time. oal was 1.128 . Gun was a gen 4 glock 23

 

[fredj338]

Why is that limited just to .40 owners? 9mm and .357 Sig are also high pressure rounds, right? Anyway, I stopped at 7.5 grains because I was using the wrong bullet and once-fired brass. I figure when you approach the top end you get the correct components. My NEW brass has a trim length between .843 and .845. Hodgdon's data says they used .845 for their tests. I also bought Hornady XTP's to work with, and some Speer TMJ's too, as this will be a woods load.

Never said it was limited to the 40, but the 40 as loaded by the factory & in most reloading data is running max, same for the 357sig. The 9mm has +P & even +P+ room to run, so some margin of error is there. My only point; PLATED BULLETS DO NOT load the same as jacketed & when you substitute w/o reducing chargew wts, you can push the 40 or 357sig into KB territory. The 357sig is rarely run hard w/ plated or lead because of it's much higher vel, but the rule would still apply.

 

[TacDad]

So the bullseye recipe said 5grns - 5.5 grns for 180 gr jhp . So 10% down would be 4.5 grn start ? or should I go lower ?4.8 didn't seem very heavy at all, and the brass didn't seem deformed .