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Beretta PX4 Storm Compact Carry...Opinions Please.

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#1 ·
Hey all.

I'd like to know if anyone owns one of these pistols.

I didn't know anything at all about the PX4 series of Beretta pistols. I have been a fan of Beretta pistols for years, specifically the 92 series Compact. What a wonderful pistol.

Anyway, I was nosing thru some old Shot Show videos and came upon one from Ernie Langdon announcing the PX4 Compact Carry and how he was a huge fan of this series and decided to trick it out and make it as good as he could for CCW use. He showed the upgrades he had done to it and talked about why it was such a great platform. This was the first I had seen it. But that's not saying too much.

I went to an Academy Sports the other day to see if they had any TriStar C100 pistols in stock and I noticed they had a basic PX4 Compact in the case and I looked st it. It's a nice pistol for sure. It has a rotating barrel setup when the slide is retracted. Never seen that type of system.

Although a nice pistol, it seems a bit big for CCW. It has a capacity of 15 shots. The Custom Carry version goes for about $800! That does seem a bit much. A lot can be done with that much cash. Not knocking those that buy the Compact Carry pistol done up by Langdon specifics.

I just wondered if anyone owns one and if so, what do you think of it? I'd like to hear your thoughts on both the standard Compact and the Compact Carry version with the Langdon specs.
Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks.
Larry
 
#2 ·
To me it's too heavy and they got the height and length reversed. It's a short barrel with a long grip. It's as tall as a Glock 19 with a barrel .4" shorter than a Glock 26.

I'm not familiar with the Compact Carry.
 
#5 ·
I had my eye on the Langdon Compact Carry for a hot minute. A couple months ago I finally found one at my local shop and picked it up.

Size wise, I believe the Compact Carry shares a similar footprint with a G19. Same height at 5", half inch shorter length at 6.8" (vs 7.28" for G19"), G19 is 1.18" wide while the CC comes in 1.2" unless you include the slide stop lever (slide stop would make it 1.4" in that little section). Weight wise, the CC is a bit heavier at 27oz, being similar to a P320c.

What attracted me to an even better PX4 in this size is that I definitely prefer DA/SA hammer fired pistols while carrying AIWB. Another benefit of the Langdon Compact Carry over the regular Compact PX4 (IMO) are the sights. Finding quality sights for the PX4 pistols isn't as easy as it is for more popular pistols, plus many sight manufacturers don't even make sights for the Compact size, only the Fullsize and Subcompact PX4s. Fortunatley, I prefer plain rear/bright front on my other pistols, so these sights were exactly what I wanted.

The trigger on the Compact Carry is also an added benefit. If you can tell from the picture of my PX4 SD, I swapped out the winged decocker for a "stealth" version. I also replaced the mainspring with a smoother D spring to get a better trigger pull. The Compact Carry shares these same improvements from the factory and comes with a slightly better trigger pull plus a noticeably better reset. The Compact Carry kicks the butt of my SD's "improved" trigger.

Oh yeah, the little Talon Grip isn't bad either!
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#6 ·
I too thought like Cowboy1964 in that the pistol is backwards. The grip is too long and the slide is too short. I know some don't mind that kinda thing, but to my eye, it just bugs the hell outta me. It just doesn't look right.
I admit though, I haven't seen one in person nor have I seen good pics of one or any comparison pics. I also didn't bother to look into the specs. I mean what could the specs tell me that my eyes couldn't? Well it looks like PLENTY!!

Now that Handwrecker has posted these pics and the specs compared to the 19, I am starting to have a totally different outlook on the Custom Compact Carry. I had no idea it was the close in size to my G19. I like the way the G19 looks a lot. You have to admit though that even though it is really close to the 19 size wise, it just doesn't LOOK LIKE IT. Does anyone else think this or sees it like I do?

I'm going to have to look st these pics on my laptop later on. Thatvwill help me see it better.


I still would like to handle one. I do believe that at first there is done Sticker Shock, but when you get to examining what Langdon and Beretta put together in this package, it's not really that overpriced. Heck, plenty of guys and gals, won't bat an eye at dropping 2K on a semi custom 1911. I wish I could drop that much on any firearm right now.

Anyway, I'd like to see and hear more about this Beretta Carry piece. If you have any more pics, especially comparison pics, please post them. Can you hear me Handwrecker? I'm talking to YOU!!
Just busting on you.

I do like your pics though.

Thanks all for your contributions. I appreciate you all taking the time to educate me. I need it so often these days.

Have s good week fellers (I don't know what the female equivalent to FELLERS is or I would post it too).....

Larry
 
#11 · (Edited)
It's not a safety - it's a slide mounted decocker. You decock the gun and flip the lever back up and carry it in DA/SA mode.

I carry a Px4 SC as an EDC. The compact Px4 is a teeny bit bigger and uses the rotary barrel system like the full size Storm. Nice gun but I have carried and shot my SC thru over 4K rounds now and like it fine. Having shot all three of the Px4 Storm extensively I prefer the SubCompact for daily carry....I'd get a full size instead of the compact for my second Px4.

The "Carry" upgrade has stuff that I don't really need....the Talon grips are cool and a welcome addition but I had Talons on my Px4 SC and they last about a year before the adhesive gives up. I do fine without them. The Compact Carry also has the decocker changed and it does not lock down in the safety mode - cool idea. I don't need that...I also think the Carry mod has some trigger work that reduces the DA pull and crisps up the SA pull. Again, after a few thousand rounds I like my stock Px4 trigger just fine but I'm not really picky about triggers. Then there is the upgraded finish on the Carry which is basically spray paint (Cerakote) and I don't care for it....it does have a nice color. When the finish on the Px4 SC goes to hell I'll have the slide done in hard chrome.

All in all I really liked the Px4 Compact Carry but the additional money for the extra mods doesn't appeal to me. But the whole Px4 line is outstanding as a carry gun if you can manage a double stack. They are not teeny tiny little pistols. They are built like a tank. Mine has never missed a lick in anyone's hands....the only one who can make it malfunction is my Wife when she deliberately modifies he grip to do the limp wrist trick. I highly recommend any/all of the Px4 line for concealed carry.


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#16 ·
Size wise, I believe the Compact Carry shares a similar footprint with a G19. Same height at 5", half inch shorter length at 6.8" (vs 7.28" for G19"), G19 is 1.18" wide while the CC comes in 1.2" unless you include the slide stop lever (slide stop would make it 1.4" in that little section). Weight wise, the CC is a bit heavier at 27oz, being similar to a P320c.
The barrel length on the Compact Carry carry is only 3.2"? For a 15 round gun that weighs 27.2 ounces that is kind of crazy.
 
#19 ·
My sidearm for work is a 92g, they sent two in a shipment 7 years ago and I was issued it as my replacement . Standard here is 92fs. I also have a px4c in 40sw I use when hiking and atv/4wheeling on my sportsman 500. It's a good compact and I rate it up there with the g23 and p239 40s I own. It does it job very well. I bought it secondhand and it looked used lol..I have been not been easy on it and it been every bit reliable. Sometimes I wish I bought another lol..
 
#21 ·
Yeah I never understood the hatred for the side levers in the Beretta pistols. What's the big deal? Just pull down on the side lever and it drops the hammer....flip it back up and you're good to go. No safety hampering you and the hammer is down and in DA mode.

Are we really that picky that we can't take one more movement by the thumb to move the lever in the UP position?

Someone please explain how this is a huge problem for you.


Larry
 
#22 ·
Yeah I never understood the hatred for the side levers in the Beretta pistols. What's the big deal? Just pull down on the side lever and it drops the hammer....flip it back up and you're good to go. No safety hampering you and the hammer is down and in DA mode.

Are we really that picky that we can't take one more movement by the thumb to move the lever in the UP position?

Someone please explain how this is a huge problem for you.


Larry
Millennial. What can you say?
 
#24 ·
Thoughts on the standard compact: it's an underrated pistol, solid reliable accurate and a pleasure to shoot. The quality is excellent, the rotating barrel performs flawlessly with a modicum of lubrication. The safety levers look like Dumbo ears, but can be replaced and more importantly easily converted to a decocker only configuration.

The trigger pull is meh originally but improves considerably by firing and dry firing the pistol a lot. Also, it's very easy to replace the hammer spring and improve the DA pull considerably. The reset will never be STI-like, but that's not what the gun wants to be. During a course, Ernst Langdon told me not to worry too much about reset, and to
"treat it like a dysfunctional relationship". He has a couple of interesting videos about reset. Start here. He does amazing things with the Px4, but that's definitively the Indian and not the arrow.

Ernst Langdon is a scholar and one of the top most experts of Beretta's around. He has worked with people at pistol-forum (there is a thread there where you can basically see how this version was born) and persuaded Beretta to run a batch with those specs. In my opinion it represents a great value, as does the Wilson Brigadier. I have not shot the Compact carry, but am definitively looking forward to it. I have more than 4k rounds through mine, and I like it even more than during the break in period. It's worn, looks like hell but it runs like the a Swiss clock, or rather an Italian gun which is way more interesting than a silly clock.
If you get it through Robar you get a finish that is way more than a coat of paint.
 
#29 ·
With 800 bucks you can get a glock 19 or 26 trick it out anyway you like and buy plenty or rounds and holster.


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With 800 bucks you can get a glock 19 or 26 trick it out anyway you like and buy plenty or rounds and holster.


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Not sure how relevant this is. I could also spend $800 on gelato, but this thread is about the PX4 carry, not ice cream or glock's.

Thanks a lot by the way, now I need a vanilla ice cream badly and it's your fault.
 
#30 · (Edited)
With 800 bucks you can get a glock 19 or 26 trick it out anyway you like and buy plenty or rounds and holster.


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Lol. Then you're stuck with a Glock 19 or 26, pistols of the lowest common denominator and things only full retards and wannabe eunuchs would carry AIWB.

With your attitude, why are you using an iPhone when you could "trick out" an Android phone for less, maybe even BOGO it and have two?
 
#31 ·
Hey all.

I'd like to know if anyone owns one of these pistols.

I didn't know anything at all about the PX4 series of Beretta pistols. I have been a fan of Beretta pistols for years, specifically the 92 series Compact. What a wonderful pistol.

Anyway, I was nosing thru some old Shot Show videos and came upon one from Ernie Langdon announcing the PX4 Compact Carry and how he was a huge fan of this series and decided to trick it out and make it as good as he could for CCW use. He showed the upgrades he had done to it and talked about why it was such a great platform. This was the first I had seen it. But that's not saying too much.

I went to an Academy Sports the other day to see if they had any TriStar C100 pistols in stock and I noticed they had a basic PX4 Compact in the case and I looked st it. It's a nice pistol for sure. It has a rotating barrel setup when the slide is retracted. Never seen that type of system.

Although a nice pistol, it seems a bit big for CCW. It has a capacity of 15 shots. The Custom Carry version goes for about $800! That does seem a bit much. A lot can be done with that much cash. Not knocking those that buy the Compact Carry pistol done up by Langdon specifics.

I just wondered if anyone owns one and if so, what do you think of it? I'd like to hear your thoughts on both the standard Compact and the Compact Carry version with the Langdon specs.
Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks.
Larry
I'd love to own one.
 
#32 ·
I can understand those that have a lot of training and years behind a system that is different than the safety system that comes stock on the 92 series.

I don't think there's a great deal of shooters that fall into that category where they aren't able to adapt their skills to a thumb safety like the Beretta 92 lever.
There are some, like 45caldan, but I think he's the exception rather than the rule.

Before anyone gets on me, I am not saying that 45caldan isn't able to adapt his skills to a new type of thumb lever, just that he's obviously put in a lot of years with a type of system that he's grown accustomed to and maybe because of his age or time behind the trigger of his preferred system, he just doesn't want to take the time necessary to re-learn and develop the new muscle memory required to become comfy with learning a new thumb lever.

I wouldn't mind trying one of these PX4 Compact Carry pistols. It's growing on me the more I look at it and read about its features.
 
#33 ·
If one can't handle more than one safety system then I question one's mental capacity to own guns at all.

I can understand those that have a lot of training and years behind a system that is different than the safety system that comes stock on the 92 series.

I don't think there's a great deal of shooters that fall into that category where they aren't able to adapt their skills to a thumb safety like the Beretta 92 lever.
There are some, like 45caldan, but I think he's the exception rather than the rule.

Before anyone gets on me, I am not saying that 45caldan isn't able to adapt his skills to a new type of thumb lever, just that he's obviously put in a lot of years with a type of system that he's grown accustomed to and maybe because of his age or time behind the trigger of his preferred system, he just doesn't want to take the time necessary to re-learn and develop the new muscle memory required to become comfy with learning a new thumb lever.

I wouldn't mind trying one of these PX4 Compact Carry pistols. It's growing on me the more I look at it and read about its features.
 
#38 ·
I am really not that good with DA/SA. But I have found the PX4 feel good in my hand. I think I can grow to really like the PX4 Compact Carry (I would only want a G model)
 
#41 · (Edited)
Hey all.

I'd like to know if anyone owns one of these pistols.

I didn't know anything at all about the PX4 series of Beretta pistols. I have been a fan of Beretta pistols for years, specifically the 92 series Compact. What a wonderful pistol.

Anyway, I was nosing thru some old Shot Show videos and came upon one from Ernie Langdon announcing the PX4 Compact Carry and how he was a huge fan of this series and decided to trick it out and make it as good as he could for CCW use. He showed the upgrades he had done to it and talked about why it was such a great platform. This was the first I had seen it. But that's not saying too much.

I went to an Academy Sports the other day to see if they had any TriStar C100 pistols in stock and I noticed they had a basic PX4 Compact in the case and I looked st it. It's a nice pistol for sure. It has a rotating barrel setup when the slide is retracted. Never seen that type of system.

Although a nice pistol, it seems a bit big for CCW. It has a capacity of 15 shots. The Custom Carry version goes for about $800! That does seem a bit much. A lot can be done with that much cash. Not knocking those that buy the Compact Carry pistol done up by Langdon specifics.

I just wondered if anyone owns one and if so, what do you think of it? I'd like to hear your thoughts on both the standard Compact and the Compact Carry version with the Langdon specs.
Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks.
Larry
Why I chose PX4 Storm Compact

I now have a PX4 Storm compact carry in 40S&W. Not sure I would get it in 9mm since there are lots of great options out there for 9mm although 9mm in this model shoots almost as soft as a 380. awesome. I'll explain why I bought it in 40 cal though... I know they don't make the compact carry version in 40 but I replicated what they did to the compact carry 9mm so I could have it in 40.

When searching for a 40 cal Compact I searched for 2 months and saw the PX4 Storm Compact many times in shops and on the web but never really considered it and didn’t see a lot of talk about them. When I thought my search was over and made my decision I started to look at it more closely. I now believe it is the best 40 cal in compact size out there. Although the PX4 compact in 9mm is still a great gun I can’t say it’s the best 9mm in compact.

The PX4 Storm Compact is the best compact gun in 40 cal hands down. We all know most people won’t consider a 40 cal for EDC. Since all my guns are in other calibers I wanted to get one in 40 so I could have all the major calibers. In my search for the best 40 cal compact the PX4 handles the 40 round leaps and bounds better than any compact gun out there. It took me a long time to track down and try all the major brands in 40. Keep in mind I am talking about compact size in 40. Outside of the PX4 Compact it’s my opinion that chambering 40 in compact or subcompact is not ideal for EDC due to muzzle flip considering target acquisition and double taps. Most of my guns are for the purpose of carrying so most are compact to subcompact in size. PX4 Compact is the exception.

This gun is the softest shooting 40 cal that lends to awesome double taps in 40. Recoil is like shooting a +P+ 147 grain 9mm. This is all because of the rotating barrel technology. This gun is flat shooting and extremely accurate.

Top reasons I believe I overlooked the PX4 Storm Compact

1st reason most people overlook the PX4 Compact mostly because it’s too futuristic looking and looks different due to the rounded butt of the slide. I believe they designed it that way to minimize printing and bring extra comfort to carrying IWB. It actually carry’s extraordinarily more comfortable than some of the subcompact guns I carry IWB. In fact, if I know I will have a long day carrying I usually carry the PX4 due to long comfort.

2nd reason people skip right over considering the PX4 Compact is all the specs you look up online talk about how thick the gun is at 1.4”. Actually if you remove the decocker levers and install the stealth versions the gun is much slimmer. If we are talking overall thickness of the gun itself it is only 1.125” thick when excluding the stock decocker levers. So the gun is pretty standard thickness for its relative size. Also replacing the bat wing like decocker levers with the slim ones makes racking the slide great. This gun is awesome because when you’re holding it in your hand it feels like a full size gun but is truly compact. Obviously it’s on the larger size for compact category but it’s more comfortable to carry than most, and conceals far better than most guns in its same category, because of it’s rounded off edges.

3rd Lots of gun channels talk about great triggers vs bad triggers. This is subjective. My definition of a great trigger is different than what other gun experts believe is a great trigger. For example most gun experts on these channels shoot in competitions. If I were saying a great trigger has a smooth 2.5 – 3.5 lbs pull I would agree with that if I was shooting in a competition. Since high stress self-defense situations occur unexpectedly putting you in an intense situation where your adrenaline is going, I would not suggest a 3 lbs trigger pull. My ideal trigger weight for carry is minimum 7 lbs DA and then 4.5 in SA. That just my preference. That is why I love the PX4 Compact which matches those specs perfectly. You can also half caulk the PX4 hammer to lighten the first DA pull. Again I love that you have options with this gun.

Height is only 5” (perfect grip size) to include pinky. I won’t consider an EDC gun that has anything over a 5” height to minimize printing.

My modifications include Cerakote, Talon Grips, 92FS Style slimed decocker levers, Trijicon Night Sights, added slim slide catch and removed right side slide catch

Easiest takedown I’ve seen in any gun.

If I didn’t live in Ca I would opt for decocker only G version stealth levers.

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#42 ·
I bought one awhile ago. I bought the small safety levers for it and turned it into decock only (basically a G model). Those big "wing" decock levers suck. Stuck out way to much. Made racking the slide a pain. Big improvement. Talon grips are also a big plus. Grip was a little slick for me. Tended to move around in my hand before the Talons. In fact one of my shooting buddies who didn't like it really changed his mind after the Talons were on it.
Talons make it much better. Had the slide nickel-boron coated. Just like two tones. Have the Cougar "D" spring for it. Haven't put it in yet. Basically had a carry model before Mr. Langdon did his magic. BTW have a full sized Beretta I had him work on years ago when he was doing that individually. It is just flat out one of the finest shooting weapons I own.
Very accurate like any Beretta. Hell even my little Tomcat shot great. Just kept cracking. Never had any type of failures with the rotating barrel. But I do keep it cleaned and lubed. Had some trouble with my Cougar and it's rotating barrel. Got the bugs out in the PX4. Corners are nice and melted. Rotating barrel feels a bit lighter than most 9mm's in recoil. But lets face it 9mm is not bad to begin with. Really like the grip angle. SA about 4 lbs.. A lot to like in this little gun.
It is an underrated. Add the talon grips. Sweet little gun.
If you are looking for a small DA/SA polymer gun I would rate it higher than any of the HK's. And I like my HK's. Just can really sweeten it up with a little extra cash. When I bought the gun I got it for $485.00 when they first came out. Don't know what they go for now. But get rid of the big decock levers, turn it into decock only, add the Talons and the D spring if you want. Really makes for a nice little carry gun. And again it shoots very tight groups. JMHO>
 
#44 ·
I can understand those that have a lot of training and years behind a system that is different than the safety system that comes stock on the 92 series.

I don't think there's a great deal of shooters that fall into that category where they aren't able to adapt their skills to a thumb safety like the Beretta 92 lever.
There are some, like 45caldan, but I think he's the exception rather than the rule.

Before anyone gets on me, I am not saying that 45caldan isn't able to adapt his skills to a new type of thumb lever, just that he's obviously put in a lot of years with a type of system that he's grown accustomed to and maybe because of his age or time behind the trigger of his preferred system, he just doesn't want to take the time necessary to re-learn and develop the new muscle memory required to become comfy with learning a new thumb lever.

I wouldn't mind trying one of these PX4 Compact Carry pistols. It's growing on me the more I look at it and read about its features.
That's exactly right.
I do not wish to learn to adapt to a slide mounted safety.
I'm old enough to KNOW what I prefer and have MANY options available :)