The dots are only for quick shooting up close. For precise shooting, ignore the dots and align the physical rectangle outline of the sights, all perfectly even along the very top of all 3 sight ears, and equal light space on each side of the front sight. Have your eye keep the front sight in crisp focus. The very top and center of the front sight is the point if aim

 

If that doesn't work, try resting it at a bench. To make reasonable judgements about point of aim, you should be getting about 4" or less groups at 25 yards. Any larger then that is a lot of human error. If aim is still off after achieving those groups from a bench, try a couple types of ammo.

I get dead on point of aim at 25 yards with American Eagle 124 gr, Speer Lawman 124 gr, and Gold Dot 124 gr. Most others, in 115 gr for example, are not far off, but those 3 are the main rounds I use.

 

Berettas use sight picture 3 - many people try to use the 6 o'clock hold and then they wonder why they are shooting low...

 

I'm generally only shooting this thing 7-10 yards or so. I'm just so used to shooting glocks and having the sights line up and it hits where I aim. I appriciate the input bud. :wavey:

 

Berettas use sight picture 3 - many people try to use the 6 o'clock hold and then they wonder why they are shooting low...

Ok I'll try that next time and see, thanks. :wavey:

 

Berettas use sight picture 3 - many people try to use the 6 o'clock hold and then they wonder why they are shooting low...

Both my Berettas use sight picture 2

 

I'm generally only shooting this thing 7-10 yards or so. I'm just so used to shooting glocks and having the sights line up and it hits where I aim. I appriciate the input bud. :wavey:

Big difference between the triggers, so that could throw things off initially. What is your slow fire 5 shot group size at whatever distance you've tried at?

Not meant to be an inquisition, but point of aim is better determined from accurate slow fire, and if the groups are spread too much then a bench is needed.

Without determining that, it leaves open the question of shooter variances.

And realize, I don't know your greatness, so I just saying the general approach to solving the issue

 

Big difference between the triggers, so that could throw things off initially. What is your slow fire 5 shot group size at whatever distance you've tried at?

Not meant to be an inquisition, but point of aim is better determined from accurate slow fire, and if the groups are spread too much then a bench is needed.

Without determining that, it leaves open the question of shooter variances.

And realize, I don't know your greatness, so I just saying the general approach to solving the issue

Oh off the top of my head probably a two inch group or so at 7 yards if I line it up how I described.

 

Oh off the top of my head probably a two inch group or so at 7 yards if I line it up how I described.

Yes, that will tell you the point aim So next time try the sight pictures that shipwrecked showed you (between #2 and #3), with your tight 2" groups, and see what gets you more on target.

 

Yes, that will tell you the point aim So next time try the sight pictures that shipwrecked showed you (between #2 and #3), with your tight 2" groups, and see what gets you more on target.

:thumbsup:

 

Thanks for this tip. I too own a Beretta 92FS over here in the Philippines. I bought it in 2012 brand-new.

Shoots like a dream.

 

http://www.berettausa.com/en-us/beretta-92-96-target-adjustable-rear-sight/e00169/

The adjustable rear sight worked great on my 92FS.

 

Both my Berettas use sight picture 2

I would venture to say that I have owned more beretta 92s than most here (23 at last count, plus other Beretta models). Once you get past 15 yards, sight picture 2 seems to work, or a merger of #2 and 3. At less distances, it's sight picture 3 with ease. Been that way on EVERY one of the 92 variants I've ever owned.

 

I don't want to hijack the thread, but I hate white dot sights! I routinely apply a black marks-a-lot on those guns of mine so afflicted. I use the method that Ithaca Deerslayer writes about in his first response:wavey:
Long story short, the big rule is to put the front sight on the target!

 

I would venture to say that I have owned more beretta 92s than most here (23 at last count, plus other Beretta models). Once you get past 15 yards, sight picture 2 seems to work, or a merger of #2 and 3. At less distances, it's sight picture 3 with ease. Been that way on EVERY one of the 92 variants I've ever owned.

If you get close enough to the target, every gun is going to use sight picture #3.

 

That's why any instructor tells you to line up the sights, not the dots.

The dots are good enough for a quick, close shot, if you even need sights for that, but the dots are often off, so lining up the sights as if they were solid black is more reliable.

 

If you get close enough to the target, every gun is going to use sight picture #3.

7-10 yards, it IS sight picture #3. I'm not shooting at 3 feet. And, NOT every gun does this. I had a Sig 226 last year, and it shot at 7 yards with a 6 o'clock hold.

Also, EVERYONE at the Beretta Forum will also tell you that the sight picture for a Beretta 92 is #3. At least at the distances I stated above. Use what you like.

 

7-10 yards, it IS sight picture #3. I'm not shooting at 3 feet. And, NOT every gun does this. I had a Sig 226 last year, and it shot at 7 yards with a 6 o'clock hold.

Also, EVERYONE at the Beretta Forum will also tell you that the sight picture for a Beretta 92 is #3. At least at the distances I stated above. Use what you like.

I use the sight picture that works on my 2 Berettas. I don't know about other Berettas.

But in general, with any gun, as you get real close to the target, the gun will shoot low relative to the sights. So the adjustment is to go to sight picture #3 up close.

Maybe Beretta, for some reason, decided that should happen for more yards than is normal in other handguns.

All I can say is try your specific gun and see how it shoots. But first, and this was the real point I wanted to make with the OP, make sure you are getting a tight group.

 

I would venture to say that I have owned more beretta 92s than most here (23 at last count, plus other Beretta models). Once you get past 15 yards, sight picture 2 seems to work, or a merger of #2 and 3. At less distances, it's sight picture 3 with ease. Been that way on EVERY one of the 92 variants I've ever owned.

I'm going to specifically try my Beretta 92FS at 10 yards, shooting sight picture #2 and #3, and report back here with the results

Might be a few days until I get both the time and nice weather. But this discussion is a good excuse to take it out for a shoot.

Thanks

 

Here's my sample of 1. Beretta 92FS made in USA, bought new around 1998. Based on prior experience it shoots to same point of aim as my Italian 92 compact 13 round double stack version.

Today, with Gold Dot 124gr and American Eagle 124gr both shooting to same point of aim.

10 yards 1.5" to 2" groups
Center of group:
Sight ears (sight picture #2) = .5" high
3 dot (sight picture #3) = 2" high

25 yards 2.5" to 4" groups
Sight ears = 1.5" high
3 dots = 3.5" high

In all groups the 3 dot spread was the larger, because it is more difficult for me to be as precise focusing on them. The sight ears are on target, even if the exact center of the group is just a tad high. The 3 dot method appears to put the center of the groups about 1.5" to 2" higher at from 10 to 25 yards.

With shipwrecked's experience with many more Berettas than I've ever shot, he says they prefer the 3 dot hold. That may be true for those guns, but note that the expected change in point of aim is at most 2" between the two different holds. So if your groups are more than 2" low, something else is going on.

Hope this helps

 

Well, I don't shoot at 25 yards. 15 yards is usually the furthest. And, I go with sight picture 3 personally. But figure out what ya like. Like I said - ask anyone at the Beretta Forum, and they'll tell ya #3 as well.

BUt, great post with detailed info ya made

 

Quick question if there's someone here with the Wilson Combat rear sights for the 92fs. They have different heights on them .270,.280, and .280. They state that berettas are configured with the .270 height which I guess gives them that sight#3 stance. What size should I get if I want it to be point of aim or like the Glock sytle of sight picture, sight#2?

 

I don't want to hijack the thread, but I hate white dot sights! I routinely apply a black marks-a-lot on those guns of mine so afflicted. I use the method that Ithaca Deerslayer writes about in his first response:wavey:

Long story short, the big rule is to put the front sight on the target!

Me too.

 

I tried picture #3, didn't work. Hell even just trying to keep the front dot on target didn't work for me, still shooting low. :dunno:

 

Quick question if there's someone here with the Wilson Combat rear sights for the 92fs. They have different heights on them .270,.280, and .280. They state that berettas are configured with the .270 height which I guess gives them that sight#3 stance. What size should I get if I want it to be point of aim or like the Glock sytle of sight picture, sight#2?

I would call Wilson and ask.