Fear and uncertainty are the tools of the .gov it seems.

 

There is a national injunction in place from a federal court.

The previous injunction only applied to members of the organizations involved in the suit (G.O.A. etc.)

Most likely scenario moving forward -

I'm sure the ATF is going to appeal to a higher court. The back and forth regarding legality will continue until it reaches SCOTUS and they smack the ATF down again.

 

There is a national injunction in place from a federal court.

The previous injunction only applied to members of the organizations involved in the suit (G.O.A. etc.)

Most likely scenario moving forward -

I'm sure the ATF is going to appeal to a higher court. The back and forth regarding legality will continue until it reaches SCOTUS and they smack the ATF down again.

I live in the communist state of Washington. I subscribe to his channel. Good info for all the west coast ststes.

 

pending...

 

Watch it see-saw for a few more years before SCOTUS judgment. Remember free men don't ask permission and no one can keep a secret.

 

Legal Limbo. Back and forth time.

 

With the national injunction, they are being sold again. I was covered under FPC, GOA, and SAF.

 

The way this SCOTUs has been who knows if They take it. They have their obscure legal reasoning for what cases are good to take or not good to take. They're about to tell us if an un convicted domestic abuser has gun rights which I guess is an important question but not as important as dealing with AWB bans, capacity limits, rosters, serial number stamping requirements and ATF overreach on stuff like the brace rule. Determining or validating an un convicted alleged domestic abuser's 2a rights is important on some level I guess but I'd rather keep smacking down blue states that pile on restrictions that have the effect of making it almost impossible for his potential victims to arm themselves.

If we have another bad election next year we could lose this majority in 10 years or less but something still seems to be making them hold back from aggressively building on Bruin and striking down the worst of the overreach while we have a chance. I think that something's initials are probably "J.R."

 

In the end it could go either way.

The ATF definitely overstepped it's authority, I'm sure they will appeal the injunction. I don't have enough faith in the SCOTUS to feel confident they will even agree to hear the case tho.

 

I’m not sure they will appeal.
Look at the bumpstock case. They lost and in 3 states bumpstocks are legal for purchase due to that loss. They haven’t appealed because they are likely to lose nationwide

I will agree about the SC. Barrett and Kavanaugh have been a big disappointment in 2a cases

 

It's hard to believe ATF will just give up, so look for them to redo the whole process, being careful this time to do things by the book rather than adopting something completely different from what was proposed.

 

I feel the way things have gone lately it's totally conceivable that ATF will appeal and win somehow and SCOTUS will refuse to hear it next year in favorite of making something like a Marijuana card holder's right to purchase the term's blockbuster 2a case.

 

Hopefully, they lose. However, I am not buying a brace until this is all final & they have officially lost

 

This brace infringement really gets me, friends say scotus will knock it down, I'm sure the current one will but in the meantime our right had been suspended.

 

The nationwide injunction will be in effect until the case is decided.

 

In short (pun intended), braces are "on again" and still for sale.

Get em while you can.

 

PSA is selling braced pistols again, as well as the braces for those whose brace fell overboard 27 miles offshore.

 

Generally the Government rules by regulations. It used to prohibit set things, but allow the prior possession. However a set political party has been pushing a totalitarian dictatorship. Most laws grandfather in prior possession/ownership. Like was the case for the 94 assault weapons ban or 1970 clean air act. You could keep your firearms or big block V8’s.

Now the ATF who has no power to make laws, is making laws, that contradicts their prior public statements.

As of right now you can buy/own/posses/have a pistol brace. I never owned one, but am thinking of buying a few as in 2024 there will be desperation to push infringements on citizens. More so after Nov 2024.

 

They need to disarm us in order get away with stealing the next election

 

My new pistol - 12/18/23

PSA > ATF = FTW!!

 

I am cautiously optimistic. I did not participate in the amnesty period because I am hoping the SCOTUS puts the kibosh on the ATFs bullcrap.

 

Once the ATF gets told what the rules are, I can decide what direction to take set things.

 

Just drink that bottle of Old Forester and say “to hell with them all”!

 

The Chevron deference ruling could put a nail in the coffin of ATF shenanigans and a bunch of other things.

 

The Chevron deference ruling could out a nail in the coffin of ATF shenanigans and a bunch of other things.

One can only hope so.

The bureaucrat sloths who managed to slither up the government ladder have no business legislating.

 

I have one of these pistol braces for my Maverick Shockwave. I never heard if it applied to them or not.

 

It did. Same with other pistols and firearms.

 

We will all be okay, Josey in the final end was hurt, but got away!

 

Well with the Supreme Court rulings on some things in the last few days and now the ATF changing directions and going after certain ammo, we are obviously not past this BS yet. As soon as they are shot down on one thing another seems to emerge to be dealt with.

 

Well with the Supreme Court rulings on some things in the last few days and now the ATF changing directions and going after certain ammo ...

???
Not sure I've heard the recent (day/weeks?) decisions or going after certain ammo.

Can you tell more or cite what you are referencing?

 

Keep in mind that injunctions end quickly and with little warning.

One second after an injunction ends, one is in violation.