I would like to know more about the new optic and there was a brief mention of a powered smart rail. 
Army 6.8mm update
-
Glocktalk is a forum community dedicated to Glock enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about Glock pistols and rifles, optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, and more!
Deltic
1 - 20 of 57 Posts
Joined
·
28,331 Posts
I would like to know more about the new optic and there was a brief mention of a powered smart rail.
This is the Army's new rifle optic of choice
Sig Sauer's TANGO6T is the Army's new rifle optic of choice
taskandpurpose.com
Joined
·
8,859 Posts
Interesting. The Army haven’t chosen a rifle or SAW yet but already decided on the optics.
the General Dynamics bullpup is also a collaboration with Beretta.
the General Dynamics bullpup is also a collaboration with Beretta.
Joined
·
28,331 Posts
..and at last check Sig doesn't actually make optics. I was fairly certain they were just private labeled optics from other manufactures.
Joined
·
29,607 Posts
A 6.5 would be better than a 6.8.
Joined
·
8,859 Posts
i know that. Hopefully it’s not Chinese optics they’re currently peddling.
Joined
·
28,331 Posts
Holosun leapt to mind...
Joined
·
8,859 Posts
Indeed. Also supposedly they claimed that one of their red dots is made in the USA. I can’t recall which one top of my head but it doesn’t look like a holosun.
Joined
·
18,181 Posts
That is a different program.This is the Army's new rifle optic of choice
Sig Sauer's TANGO6T is the Army's new rifle optic of choice
Army Wants to Replace Rifle Combat Optic with New Variable-Power Sight
Weapons officials say that the new Direct View Optic could be ready for fielding by late 2020.
"The new optic is not meant to be used with the Army's Next Generation Squad Weapon, a new 6.8mm system intended to replace the M4A1 and M249 squad automatic weapon in close-combat units. The NGSW will feature an advanced fire control system with a rangefinder, ballistic calculator and other high-tech features, officials say."
Go to 4:20 in the video. The new optic for the 6.8 has a range finder, ballistic computer, night vision and it can display on your goggles so you can see and fire without exposing your head.
Joined
·
28,331 Posts
That is a different program.
Army Wants to Replace Rifle Combat Optic with New Variable-Power Sight
Weapons officials say that the new Direct View Optic could be ready for fielding by late 2020.www.military.com
"The new optic is not meant to be used with the Army's Next Generation Squad Weapon, a new 6.8mm system intended to replace the M4A1 and M249 squad automatic weapon in close-combat units. The NGSW will feature an advanced fire control system with a rangefinder, ballistic calculator and other high-tech features, officials say."
Go to 4:20 in the video. The new optic for the 6.8 has a range finder, ballistic computer, night vision and it can display on your goggles so you can see and fire without exposing your head.
Sounds like a D-NVG then. Not an optic but a camera.
Joined
·
8,859 Posts
What old is new.
the Brits had the 6-something millimeter mid-power round in the 1950s that they had to forgo because of the .308 round we forced on NATO.
Joined
·
18,181 Posts
It is supposed to be better at penetrating body armor.
Joined
·
28,331 Posts
Then it's a stupid idea. Special threat plates are made all the time and our enemies aren't running around in good enough armor at any reasonable rate to matter.
Joined
·
34 Posts
Since even 7.62X51 AP won't penetrate modern body armor, this is a toal waste.
Joined
·
7,440 Posts
Joined
·
18,181 Posts
Well the point is it should be more effective than 7.62x51 AP. These are not low or medium powered rounds. I think there is some information we are not getting at this time.
Here's what I don't understand.
In the jungle, at relatively short ranges, the 5.56 is the weapon of choice. In the desert, at much longer ranges, the 7.62 clearly has the advantage.
So why aren't troops trained in both, and issued the appropriate weapon when they arrive in country?
Doubling the training would be expensive, but replacing every weapon is also expensive!
In the jungle, at relatively short ranges, the 5.56 is the weapon of choice. In the desert, at much longer ranges, the 7.62 clearly has the advantage.
So why aren't troops trained in both, and issued the appropriate weapon when they arrive in country?
Doubling the training would be expensive, but replacing every weapon is also expensive!
Joined
·
18,181 Posts
It is not hard to design a cartridge that is lighter and has less recoil than the 7.62 NATO while having better performance at long range. One rifle could do the job of both. At first I thought that was what they were trying for.
As for double the training how much training would you need to go from an AR15, M16, M4 to an AR10 type rifle?
Joined
·
40,466 Posts
Just because it’s smaller than 7.62 bore diameter does not mean much in relation to armor performance.
5.56 will defeat armor that stops 7.62.
1 - 20 of 57 Posts
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
