There are lots of better choices for all sorts of applications other than 5.56MM.......everything is a compromise.

The questions are, how much do you want to shoot, and can you afford the ammo to do so? Good shooting is like any other sport, it takes practice to get good and stay good at it. Are you ready to foot the bill to do so? You can like Ferraris, Dom Perignon, and Rolex watches.....they're better and more expensive than other similar products. That doesn't mean they're the best choices, or what you can afford.

And if all you're concerned about is your SHTF scenario, where will you find ammo when everything goes ****-up?

 

^^^^ Damn good post right there,.......! :thumbsup:

 

Get into reloading and ammo will not be an issue...both currently and SHTF/Zombie Apocalypse/EOTWAWKI.

 

However, after saying that, I'd rather have .308 and .223 because the brother don't reload.

 

There are lots of better choices for all sorts of applications other than 5.56MM.......everything is a compromise.

The questions are, how much do you want to shoot, and can you afford the ammo to do so? Good shooting is like any other sport, it takes practice to get good and stay good at it. Are you ready to foot the bill to do so? You can like Ferraris, Dom Perignon, and Rolex watches.....they're better and more expensive than other similar products. That doesn't mean they're the best choices, or what you can afford.

And if all you're concerned about is your SHTF scenario, where will you find ammo when everything goes ****-up?

I do think a SHTF Scenario could way be under way in the next few year's.I believe economically this country will collapse.I do have problem's with the limited availablity of the 6.8 and I don't hate the .223.I like the Colt LE 6920 but I like the one that can have a green push buttoned laser for home defense or a night gun>A couple of year's ago I almost bought a Colt LE 6920 with the carry handle.From what I hear the carry handle isn't made anymore,The new Colt LE 6920's don't have that carry handle.I think with the way things our looking in this country we need a reliable rifle for defense and peace of mind.A handgun just doesn't point as naturally.I do agree that the more availabilty of the .223 cal ammo makes more sense.I want this gun for a girlfriend to use when Im not around.Criminal's are all over where I live.They don't get arrested from what I see.Maybe at night but I don't see it.

 

If you've got the money for ammo, go for it.

Otherwise, just go with an AK-47. Very similar ballistics and ammo is way cheaper and much more plentiful.

 

Get into reloading and ammo will not be an issue...both currently and SHTF/Zombie Apocalypse/EOTWAWKI.

Have you tried buying powder lately?

:crying:

 

The 6.8 is a good cartridge. What kills it for mainstream use is availability and price of ammo. If you can find it, 6.8 is 3 times the price of 5.56.
Why is this important? Training and practice. No matter what your personal SHTF fantasy scenario is, overcoming your opponent will depend on Mindset, Tactics and Skill. Things you learn in training and develop through practice. Equipment is a distant fourth.
If you really think you’d be safer with a 6.8, buy one of each. You should have more than one rifle, anyway.

 

If you've got the money for ammo, go for it.

Otherwise, just go with an AK-47. Very similar ballistics and ammo is way cheaper and much more plentiful.

One thing I love about the AK 47 is its incredible reliability and dependability but the sight's absolutely suck.I know their are rail attatchment's to mount Aimpoint's and EO Tech's but where the opic sight mounts is like in the middle of the rifle.The ergonomic's just can't compare to an AR 15.I like them but for target acquisition the AR all the way.Their may be customized AK'S that may be great as well.

 

I have a 6.8 and its a helluva gun. Great shooter, reliable and accurate. I built mine with a PSA 16" lightweight barrel and a bunch of different parts. I reload my own ammo. If you start reloading buy as much Accurate Arms 2200 powder...it seems to be THE powder for this cartridge based on what I've seen personally and from other people as well.

I really like the Nosler 100 Grain Accubonds in my rifle. I've tried the 90 grain TTSX and a few other loads from Silver State armory.

The only downside is the magazines are a little pricey. The best mags are the all steel pro mags at about $25 each. A new bolt is $60...big deal One time expense.

There is simply NOT another cartridge that fits in an AR that has a wider selection of USEABLE bullets/weights specifically designed for as specific cartridges than the SPC. Last year there were over 33 different bullet weight/styles available from something like 7 manufacturers. I haven't gone back and counted lately but its pretty darn good!

The truth, however, is the 5.56 is an extremely versatile and inexpensive cartridge to shoot. Deer out to 150--no problem. Yeah, the SPC can humanely kill a deer at 300...I know VERY few hunters who can make a 300 yard shot on a deer in the field. But 5.56 inside of 150 yards is a bad mofo on people and deer.

 

I have a Ambush Firearms 6.8spc with a ACOG. It is laser accurate, but ammo runs about 0.90/rd.

 

Didn't we do this in the General forum a month or so ago?

Just buy what you want.

 

Didn't we do this in the General forum a month or so ago?

Just buy what you want.

I didn't notice it was that guy...:supergrin:

 

If you like the ballistics of the 6.8, try another 6.8 - the .270 Winchester in a Browning BAR Autoloader.

There is nothing wrong with liking the .223 is used within its limits. It is also more reasonably priced than the others.

 

However, after saying that, I'd rather have .308 and .223 because the brother don't reload.

I am with you.

 

I am with you.

In a close in battle that .308 kicks a little to much for my taste.As much as Im not crazy about the .223 round Id rather have it for home defense.The .308 if we have civil unrest.I wish that 6.8 spc wasn't so dam expensive.Ballistically its far superior than a .223.I guess were stuck with the .223 or .308's though unless we go AK.No thanks though.Im not a fan of the AK 47.They don't win war's for a reason.I'll stay with the accurate and better ergonomics of the AR 15 in .223.

 

I have POF's in 5/56 and 6.8/ Both fine rifles. I was considering another POF in .308, but I really do not need to shoot past 300 meters. Both do that. I also have a Remington 700 PSS in 6.8 and reload for it. The barnes triple shock in 130 grn is a killer for sure.

 

I have POF's in 5/56 and 6.8/ Both fine rifles. I was considering another POF in .308, but I really do not need to shoot past 300 meters. Both do that. I also have a Remington 700 PSS in 6.8 and reload for it. The barnes triple shock in 130 grn is a killer for sure.

Whats POF'S??

 

Whats POF'S??

http://www.pof-usa.com/home.html

 

Whats POF'S??

POF - Patriot Ordnance Factory

They make some fine weapons and accessories.

 

A good 5.56 round like the 75 and 77 OTMs is plenty good enough, with none of the disadvantages of the 6.8. If you want to step up to real power just go .308. 6.8 is good, so is 300 Blackout, but both are going to remain "niche" rounds for the foreseeable future.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv5MBtmI3E8"]6.8 SPC vs 5.56mm (and the Yoda AR-15) - YouTube[/ame]

 

If it is going to be a "must work" auto-loading type of weapon (Defense, survival, duty, etc) I do believe going with a mainstream cartridge is preferable. More available components, parts, and ammo, regardless of total collapse or not. We could (and we seem to enjoy it as well) kick this can into the next century and still not get agreement.

Anyway, to me, if you want an AR-15 platform and the .223 does not drive the bus for you, then look at the other choices based on the .223 cartridge. 6x45, 6.5PCC, 300Blackout would be some of the better choices, but there are others as well. I use once fired .223 brass for all three of those and it is pretty easy to make, and the 300BO you can buy brass and ammo as well. None of them are the 6.5G or the 6.8SPC, but they get close...for a lot less money and only a barrel swap.

 

I have a Ambush Firearms 6.8spc with a ACOG. It is laser accurate, but ammo runs about 0.90/rd.

I LOVE IT!! I have the twin to this gun. Except with a Leupold 1x4 Firedot. Besides my DD MK 18, it is easily my favorite FIREARM, and I have a nice collection. I cannot recommend a 6.8 SPC 2 more. Just look for ammo deals and stock up when you find a good one. That's what I have done. The 6.8 may be a "niche" cartridge when compared to a 5.56 or .308, but so is everything else compared to them. Its a very capable in between. It can do basically anything better than a 5.56 and is still LIGHT, unlike virtually all of the AR 308's I have owned and fired. In my experience people that have them usually love them! The 6.8 is all you need and more for any HD scenario, and is absolute bad medicine for Hogs and Deer with some Hornady 120 SST's!

 

I LOVE IT!! I have the twin to this gun. Except with a Leupold 1x4 Firedot. Besides my DD MK 18, it is easily my favorite FIREARM, and I have a nice collection. I cannot recommend a 6.8 SPC 2 more. Just look for ammo deals and stock up when you find a good one. That's what I have done. The 6.8 may be a "niche" cartridge when compared to a 5.56 or .308, but so is everything else compared to them. Its a very capable in between. It can do basically anything better than a 5.56 and is still LIGHT, unlike virtually all of the AR 308's I have owned and fired. In my experience people that have them usually love them! The 6.8 is all you need and more for any HD scenario, and is absolute bad medicine for Hogs and Deer with some Hornady 120 SST's!

FIREARM!!!!!!!:rofl::rofl:

 

One thing I love about the AK 47 is its incredible reliability and dependability but the sight's absolutely suck.I know their are rail attatchment's to mount Aimpoint's and EO Tech's but where the opic sight mounts is like in the middle of the rifle.The ergonomic's just can't compare to an AR 15.I like them but for target acquisition the AR all the way.Their may be customized AK'S that may be great as well.

OK. Get a 7.62x39 upper.