HK USA's take on the SFP9cc micro-compact is coming soon...
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HK CC9 Coming soon
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It will be a direct mount
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RMSc/407k footprint.
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Thanks for the side by side comparison. Much easier to show people the CC9 has one similar appearance to the Taurus. Rounded slide, that is it. Grip module, trigger, trigger guard, sights, serated side grips, rail and slide release look nothing like the taurus. I just laugh when people state it looks like a taurus. They must be blind
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Bass pro online has them right now. No mark up.
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Bass Pro Shops/Cabela's and Sportsman's Warehouse are getting them regularly, as well as the online retailer called "Scheels". Each are best contacted by phone, but online listings exist as well. Also, use "Gun.Deals.com" to search for the CC9's UPC to see who has them listed at any given moment: https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/642230263284
Don't pay over $599, and good luck.
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Scheel's is a brick mortar store with an online presence like BassPro and Cabelas.
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Well mine finally came in and I picked it up today. The gun feels great in my hand. Much better than the P365 with the 12rd mag. The CC9 is slightly bigger than the P365 in both 10rd and 12rd configurations.
One thing I did notice was the mag release is very stiff and requires a strong push to eject the mag. I needed to really shift my grip in order to engage it, but luckily due to the ambi mag release I found using my index finger worked fairly well. These mags definitely shoot out with force.
I cleaned it up, mounted a Holosun 407K on it and then loaded my ITarget laser bullet, but pulling the trigger didn't produce a laser dot. I checked the ITarget and it works fine. I stripped the slide and removed the firing pin. The firing pin channel was spotless and the firing pin looked fine. I reinstalled the firing pin (which was a ***** to remove and install by the way) and put it all back together, but the firing pin still doesn't seem to hit the ITarget primer strong enough to cause the laser to work.
I hope to get to the range this weekend and ensure that I don't have light primer strikes with this gun. Other than that, I really like it. It is the perfect size, smaller than the G43X but slightly larger and heftier than the P365. This thing feels like it was carved out of a solid piece of steel. All the springs are very tight!! I'm sure it will loosen up with some use.
PS. A week ago my dealer (I pre-purchased the gun) told me production was done for the year, but surprisingly I just got the call today.
One thing I did notice was the mag release is very stiff and requires a strong push to eject the mag. I needed to really shift my grip in order to engage it, but luckily due to the ambi mag release I found using my index finger worked fairly well. These mags definitely shoot out with force.
I cleaned it up, mounted a Holosun 407K on it and then loaded my ITarget laser bullet, but pulling the trigger didn't produce a laser dot. I checked the ITarget and it works fine. I stripped the slide and removed the firing pin. The firing pin channel was spotless and the firing pin looked fine. I reinstalled the firing pin (which was a ***** to remove and install by the way) and put it all back together, but the firing pin still doesn't seem to hit the ITarget primer strong enough to cause the laser to work.
I hope to get to the range this weekend and ensure that I don't have light primer strikes with this gun. Other than that, I really like it. It is the perfect size, smaller than the G43X but slightly larger and heftier than the P365. This thing feels like it was carved out of a solid piece of steel. All the springs are very tight!! I'm sure it will loosen up with some use.
PS. A week ago my dealer (I pre-purchased the gun) told me production was done for the year, but surprisingly I just got the call today.
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That sounds like typical gun shop nonsense.
It's only April. If that had any truth to it, HK USA would be pretty foolish to leave that much money on the table for 8 months when people are still standing in line to pay them money for one of these guns.
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OK, went to the range today. I brought my G43X, the CC9 and a P365 for comparison. First I put 100 rounds of 115gr and 124gr FMJ through the CC9 with no issues. Strange that it still won't light up my laser bullet. Then I went through 20rds of 124gr +P JHP and again no problem.
The CC9 feels good in my hand but I still have to say that the G43X feels better. Size wise the CC9 is perfect. Its slightly bigger than the 365 with 12rd mags but slightly smaller than the 43X. It feels nice and solid in your hand and you would think that it weighs more than it does.
It took a few rounds to zero in the dot but then accuracy for me was fine. The CC9 recoils noticeably lighter than the 43X or 365.
The trigger is great, smooth and light but for comparison I happen to like Glock triggers and really like the trigger on my 43X. The 43X's break is just hard enough that you can stage the trigger without accidentally firing the gun and has a nice solid sturdy break.
Overall, I think the CC9 is a winner and will move into my EDC slot. I will go back to the P365 with the 10 rd mag if I really need concealment.
Overall hand feel 43X>CC9>365
Trigger CC9>43X> 365 (Sig triggers always feel a bit mushy to me and have a weird feeling reset)
Recoil CC9<43X<365
To me accuracy is even across the board as all the guns are more accurate than I am. Sights are a wash as I have red dots on all of them.
I know its not a long range session, But I tend to keep them short and go more frequently if possible. To me the CC9 was worth the wait.
The CC9 feels good in my hand but I still have to say that the G43X feels better. Size wise the CC9 is perfect. Its slightly bigger than the 365 with 12rd mags but slightly smaller than the 43X. It feels nice and solid in your hand and you would think that it weighs more than it does.
It took a few rounds to zero in the dot but then accuracy for me was fine. The CC9 recoils noticeably lighter than the 43X or 365.
The trigger is great, smooth and light but for comparison I happen to like Glock triggers and really like the trigger on my 43X. The 43X's break is just hard enough that you can stage the trigger without accidentally firing the gun and has a nice solid sturdy break.
Overall, I think the CC9 is a winner and will move into my EDC slot. I will go back to the P365 with the 10 rd mag if I really need concealment.
Overall hand feel 43X>CC9>365
Trigger CC9>43X> 365 (Sig triggers always feel a bit mushy to me and have a weird feeling reset)
Recoil CC9<43X<365
To me accuracy is even across the board as all the guns are more accurate than I am. Sights are a wash as I have red dots on all of them.
I know its not a long range session, But I tend to keep them short and go more frequently if possible. To me the CC9 was worth the wait.
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Glad yours arrived and that you've started break-in. I can totally assure you that everything you mentioned will indeed improve with some more break-in/range time. Our pair of CC9's started out "stiff" (charging/racking the slide, the ambi mag release, and the ambi slide release) but all very noticeably improved as we shot them more. The trigger pull and it's break will actually become "sharper" after 500 or so rounds, so get cracking (and start drafting F/S posts to sell off either your P365 or G43X)...
Congrats & Have Fun!
Congrats & Have Fun!
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Didn’t know these needed break in. The tearm “Break in” is so over used now days that it’s become a farce.
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Ours didn't "need" the break in period, as they shot as good as any P365, Hellcat, G43, Shield, etc. right from the start. Once our CC9's were put through some work (by hand and on the range), they became significantly better than the aforementioned micro compacts. This was made obvious to several other shooters we let try them out on the range with the other micro 9's available. For the most part, the extra work put into CC9's pays off to make it an even better shooter. No stiffness, quirks, or issues at all with our CC9's which are now well over 1,500rds each.
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I was unaware that there was a need for break in. I have not seen any of the modern plastic guns say anything about breaking in the manual. All of that crap is just that crap that people came up with on their own.
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Contrary to your screen name, you must know much about firearms. Of course there is a 'break-in' period. Metal on metal, springs and levers become less stiff over time. Why else would you lubricant various points?
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Time-Out, pump the breaks...
Not to ruffle any feathers, but "Master Guns" is a fellow Retired U.S. Marine and like me, he's a prior Marine Corps Machine Gunner (0331). I'm sure I don't need to speak for him, but perhaps I used the incorrect jargon "break-in" as some are used to. Of course every firearm needs some initial snapping in for all of the internals, but I'm primarily talking about how our 2 CC9's got better with use by dry fire and actual rounds down range.
"Master Guns" probably has forgotten more stuff than most of us even know of in regards to firearms... Semper Fi!
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I don’t agree on plastic guns. I hear what you are saying. None of the major gun companies mention it with their guns. I don’t even buy into break in for barrels on rifles. Voodoo juice and such. Triggers tend to get better but I don’t buy into it. Anyway. Take care friends. I love my CC9. I highly recommend it
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