[Brandon Breeze]

I've had a ton of folks ask me how reliable these magazines are. They use the Pearce or Taran Tactical +1 kit in addition to the Magguts +1 kit to get a total of +2 rounds for only 1/8" extra length(TTI) out of the Glock 43. The Pearce is longer, but not necessarily less concealable and you get a better grip!



I know the Shield Z8 mag is out now, but this still at least uses the OEM Mag Body, which in my experience typically is more reliable than a completely aftermarket magazine.



Who else is running these?



Pearce & Magguts +1 = +2, does it work?

Taran Tactical & Magguts +1 = +2, functional?

 

[40/45]

@GlockyQ to the courtesy phone

 

[Jarhead Al]

Search the site @GlockyQ has written ad nauseum about this

 

[GlockyQ]

I've had a ton of folks ask me how reliable this magazine is. It uses the Taran Tactical +1 kit in addition to the Magguts +1 kit to get a total of +2 rounds for only 1/8" extra length out of the Glock 43.

I know the Shield Z8 mag is out now, but this still at least uses the OEM Mag Body, which in my experience typically is more reliable than a complete aftermarket magazine.

Who else is running these?

The G43 Fanboy Club Executive VP @PilatusTurbo and myself have successfully created 8-rounder mags by combining the Pearce+1 baseplate and MagGuts+1 "guts". (See this thread for more information: https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/a...er-range-rep-update-4-16-22-positive-glock-43-pearce-1-magguts-1.1931862/page-2) However, I have never succeeded to create an 8-rounder mag by combining the TTI+1 baseplate and MagGuts+1 "guts".

In my own test attempting to create such an extended magazine, it was obvious that the TTI+1 baseplate would not provide enough room to load additional 2 rounds in the OEM mag tube even with the MagGuts+1. unless you cut MagGuts "Z" spring to shorten it.... But that would inevitably make the spring tension weaker to push the weight of all 8 rounds up for reliable functioning. So, I did not even try that route. (Remember: MagGuts+1 "Z" spring is designed for 7 rounds to begin with. If you even cut the spring shorter, the spring tension would be too weak for the weight of 8 rounds.)

Now what I have been using as my carry mags are the combination of TTI+1 baseplate and MagGuts+2 "guts". (See the following two threads for more information:
https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/magguts-2-range-testing-g43.1979939/page-6#post-32102292
https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/custom-8-rounder-mags-range-test-update.1987246/#post-32263451)

The combination of TTI+1 baseplate and MagGuts+2 "guts" (instead of MagGuts+1 "guts") gives enough room to load additional 2 rounds in the OEM mag tube with no need to shorten the proprietary "combination spring" of MagGuts+2. (Remember: MagGuts+2 "combination spring" is originally designed for 8 rounds, instead of 7 rounds. When intact as in my application, the "combination spring" retains enough spring tension to push all 8 rounds for reliable functioning.)

The TTI+1 baseplate is also a bit thinner (or shorter in height) than MagGuts+2 baseplate, so it helps make the smallest (or shortest) 8-rounder mag that still utilizes GLOCK factory mag tube. This, of course, eliminates the need for an aftermarket steel mag catch. As I explained elsewhere, GLOCK factory mag tube and GLOCK factory mag catch will set the position of the mag tube inside the factory grip fame to the factory spec, which altogether helps preserve Glock's famous "out-of-the-box" reliability with their stock parts in critical areas.

In the latter thread listed above, I have shared the results of my follow-up tests of those four custom mags used in designated carry gun and firing my carry ammo. They are still working reliably.👍

 

[PilatusTurbo]

The G43 Fanboy Club Executive VP @PilatusTurbo and myself have successfully created 8-rounder mags by combining the Pearce+1 baseplate and MagGuts+1 "guts". (See this thread for more information: https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/a...er-range-rep-update-4-16-22-positive-glock-43-pearce-1-magguts-1.1931862/page-2) However, I have never succeeded to create an 8-rounder mag by combining the TTI+1 baseplate and MagGuts+1 "guts".

In my own test attempting to create such an extended magazine, it was obvious that the TTI+1 baseplate would not provide enough room to load additional 2 rounds in the OEM mag tube even with the MagGuts+1. unless you cut MagGuts "Z" spring to shorten it.... But that would inevitably make the spring tension weaker to push the weight of all 8 rounds up for reliable functioning. So, I did not even try that route. (Remember: MagGuts+1 "Z" spring is designed for 7 rounds to begin with. If you even cut the spring shorter, the spring tension would be too weak for the weight of 8 rounds.)

Now what I have been using as my carry mags are the combination of TTI+1 baseplate and MagGuts+2 "guts". (See the following two threads for more information:
https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/magguts-2-range-testing-g43.1979939/page-6#post-32102292
https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/custom-8-rounder-mags-range-test-update.1987246/#post-32263451)

The combination of TTI+1 baseplate and MagGuts+2 "guts" (instead of MagGuts+1 "guts") gives enough room to load additional 2 rounds in the OEM mag tube with no need to shorten the proprietary "combination spring" of MagGuts+2. (Remember: MagGuts+2 "combination spring" is originally designed for 8 rounds, instead of 7 rounds. When intact as in my application, the "combination spring" retains enough spring tension to push all 8 rounds for reliable functioning.)

The TTI+1 baseplate is also a bit thinner (or shorter in height) than MagGuts+2 baseplate, so it helps make the smallest (or shortest) 8-rounder mag that still utilizes GLOCK factory mag tube. This, of course, eliminates the need for an aftermarket steel mag catch. As I explained elsewhere, GLOCK factory mag tube and GLOCK factory mag catch will set the position of the mag tube inside the factory grip fame to the factory spec, which altogether helps preserve Glock's famous "out-of-the-box" reliability with their stock parts in critical areas.

In the latter thread listed above, I have shared the results of my follow-up tests of those four custom mags used in designated carry gun and firing my carry ammo. They are still working reliably.👍

Just here as the VP, to show support and pretend like I can add something to this.

 

[Jim Watson]

I am OK with my G43 and all-Magguts products, and don't see a need for one from column A springs and one from column B floorplates.

I could not even get the +1 flat spring in the tube; I crushed it trying and they gave me a refund. I eventually wrassled the +2 combination spring into submission and got the floorplate on it before it could wiggle loose. I am at present leaving it loaded and shooting it dry every trip to the range even if for mostly shooting something else. I am gaining confidence and am sure I will be carrying it on the Mean Streets before long.

 

[Brandon Breeze]

The G43 Fanboy Club Executive VP @PilatusTurbo and myself have successfully created 8-rounder mags by combining the Pearce+1 baseplate and MagGuts+1 "guts". (See this thread for more information: https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/a...er-range-rep-update-4-16-22-positive-glock-43-pearce-1-magguts-1.1931862/page-2) However, I have never succeeded to create an 8-rounder mag by combining the TTI+1 baseplate and MagGuts+1 "guts".

In my own test attempting to create such an extended magazine, it was obvious that the TTI+1 baseplate would not provide enough room to load additional 2 rounds in the OEM mag tube even with the MagGuts+1. unless you cut MagGuts "Z" spring to shorten it.... But that would inevitably make the spring tension weaker to push the weight of all 8 rounds up for reliable functioning. So, I did not even try that route. (Remember: MagGuts+1 "Z" spring is designed for 7 rounds to begin with. If you even cut the spring shorter, the spring tension would be too weak for the weight of 8 rounds.)

Now what I have been using as my carry mags are the combination of TTI+1 baseplate and MagGuts+2 "guts". (See the following two threads for more information:
https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/magguts-2-range-testing-g43.1979939/page-6#post-32102292
https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/custom-8-rounder-mags-range-test-update.1987246/#post-32263451)

The combination of TTI+1 baseplate and MagGuts+2 "guts" (instead of MagGuts+1 "guts") gives enough room to load additional 2 rounds in the OEM mag tube with no need to shorten the proprietary "combination spring" of MagGuts+2. (Remember: MagGuts+2 "combination spring" is originally designed for 8 rounds, instead of 7 rounds. When intact as in my application, the "combination spring" retains enough spring tension to push all 8 rounds for reliable functioning.)

The TTI+1 baseplate is also a bit thinner (or shorter in height) than MagGuts+2 baseplate, so it helps make the smallest (or shortest) 8-rounder mag that still utilizes GLOCK factory mag tube. This, of course, eliminates the need for an aftermarket steel mag catch. As I explained elsewhere, GLOCK factory mag tube and GLOCK factory mag catch will set the position of the mag tube inside the factory grip fame to the factory spec, which altogether helps preserve Glock's famous "out-of-the-box" reliability with their stock parts in critical areas.

In the latter thread listed above, I have shared the results of my follow-up tests of those four custom mags used in designated carry gun and firing my carry ammo. They are still working reliably.👍

Interesting, this mag and all my other TTI/Magguts are using the TTI +1 along with the Magguts +1, they have all worked 100% so far. They don't have as much extra room as other mags do, but still fit 8 rounds with a little extra room and no issues.

 

[Brandon Breeze]

I am OK with my G43 and all-Magguts products, and don't see a need for one from column A springs and one from column B floorplates.

I could not even get the +1 flat spring in the tube; I crushed it trying and they gave me a refund. I eventually wrassled the +2 combination spring into submission and got the floorplate on it before it could wiggle loose. I am at present leaving it loaded and shooting it dry every trip to the range even if for mostly shooting something else. I am gaining confidence and am sure I will be carrying it on the Mean Streets before long.

Interesting, I haven't ran across these issues and I have 4 of these mags, 4 mags with pearce +1 & magguts +1, and 3 magguts with +2's. All easy installs and no reliability problems.

 

[Jarhead Al]

I am OK with my G43 and all-Magguts products, and don't see a need for one from column A springs and one from column B floorplates.

I could not even get the +1 flat spring in the tube; I crushed it trying and they gave me a refund. I eventually wrassled the +2 combination spring into submission and got the floorplate on it before it could wiggle loose. I am at present leaving it loaded and shooting it dry every trip to the range even if for mostly shooting something else. I am gaining confidence and am sure I will be carrying it on the Mean Streets before long.

Find a paint stick and use it to cycle the mag spring a few hundred times

 

[CedarElm7]

I use them (MagGuts+2 and TTI+1) and really like them. Props to GlockyQ for pioneering this venture!

 

[PilatusTurbo]

Find a paint stick and use it to cycle the mag spring a few hundred times

This is the right way. Everyone always say leave them loaded for a week or two. Does nothing. Cycling the spring is what does it.

 

[Jarhead Al]

This is the right way. Everyone always say leave them loaded for a week or two. Does nothing. Cycling the spring is what does it.

You may be the person I stole this from.

 

[GlockyQ]

I am OK with my G43 and all-Magguts products, and don't see a need for one from column A springs and one from column B floorplates.

I could not even get the +1 flat spring in the tube; I crushed it trying and they gave me a refund. I eventually wrassled the +2 combination spring into submission and got the floorplate on it before it could wiggle loose. I am at present leaving it loaded and shooting it dry every trip to the range even if for mostly shooting something else. I am gaining confidence and am sure I will be carrying it on the Mean Streets before long.

If the MagGuts+1 or +2 products are working for you, that is great. More power to all of us the G43 fanboys.

 

[CedarElm7]

Find a paint stick and use it to cycle the mag spring a few hundred times

I don’t recall if I learned this from @JarheadAI or from @PilatutusTurbo, but I’ve been doing it with new mags (and new mag springs) for a few years now, and I’m convinced it’s beneficial.

 

[GlockyQ]

Interesting, this mag and all my other TTI/Magguts are using the TTI +1 along with the Magguts +1, they have all worked 100% so far. They don't have as much extra room as other mags do, but still fit 8 rounds with a little extra room and no issues.

Just to reconfirm what I stated about my own experience with TTI+1 baseplate and MagGuts+1 combination earlier, I have just tested the combination once again. I have replaced the factory flush-fit baseplate with TTI+1 baseplate while keeping my well used MagGuts+1 inside my factory mag tube.

The result is still the same. As the photos below show, I could not load the 8th round to be fully seated in the mag because it got too tight... I even tried another MagGuts+1 and TTI+1 baseplate, but still the same result. Again, at least with what I just used, this combination does not give me enough room for all 8 rounds to be loaded...

Regardless, if the combination is working for you, that is great.👍 Again, more power to all of us the G43 fanboys with different options.

 

[Brandon Breeze]

Just to reconfirm what I stated about my own experience with TTI+1 baseplate and MagGuts+1 combination earlier, I have just tested the combination once again. I have replaced the factory flush-fit baseplate with TTI+1 baseplate while keeping my well used MagGuts+1 inside my factory mag tube.
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The result is still the same. As the photos below show, I could not load the 8th round to be fully seated in the mag because it got too tight... I even tried another MagGuts+1 and TTI+1 baseplate, but still the same result. Again, at least with what I just used, this combination does not give me enough room for all 8 rounds to be loaded...
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Regardless, if the combination is working for you, that is great.👍 Again, more power to all of us the G43 fanboys with different options.

Very odd, got me thinking that maybe it's because of different mag generations?

Nope, here's my four of these:

You can see one is just 33388, then one 33388-01 and two 33388-02's and they all fit 8 with a little room to spare with the Magguts +1 and TTI +1

 

[Para-bellum]

Anybody who keeps running the 43 is good in my book

 

[Brandon Breeze]

Anybody who keeps running the 43 is good in my book

Still my EDC!

 

[GlockyQ]

Very odd, got me thinking that maybe it's because of different mag generations?

Nope, here's my four of these:

You can see one is just 33388, then one 33388-01 and two 33388-02's and they all fit 8 with a little room to spare with the Magguts +1 and TTI +1

OK. You got me going.
Initially, I used both "01" and "02" mag tubes with two sets of MagGuts+1 identical to what I pictured in my earlier post #15 above. Then as I stated, the combination of the particular version of MagGuts+1 and TTI+1 baseplate did not create enough room to load the 8th round....

Since I also got what appears to be the newer version of MagGuts+1 units (i.e., the unit on the right in the photo below), I have just tried this new version of MagGuts+1 with my TTI+1 baseplates in both "01" and "02" tubes.

To my surprise, this newer version of MagGuts+1 units created just enough room to load all 8 rounds into the "01" and "02" mag tubes, though the 8th round is really tight in both tubes. The only thing is that because fully loaded mags were already very tight with no extra wiggle room left, it was very difficult to seat them in the gun with a round already in the chamber and the slide closed...

But yes. I have now confirmed that the newer version of MagGuts+1 unit (on the right in the above photo) can be combined with TTI+1 baseplate with either the "01" or "02" mag tube to load 8 rounds in the mag, but not the older version of MagGuts+1 (on the left)....

So, it was not the version of the magazine after all, but the version of MagGuts+1 unit that was making the difference. The markings on the followers are different, but I really cannot tell the difference in their dimensions... However, the stiffness and the shape of the "Z" spring seems a bit different from each other...🤔 Interesting....

Anyway, I have only confirmed this on the table top, but have not live-fire tested this combination myself on the range. If this combination works reliably when actually firing 8+1 rounds, it is great.

 

[CedarElm7]

I'd sure like to hear your test-fire results with that configuration, GlockyQ!