[Deputydave]

"This is my safety" View attachment 1369524

Unfortunately your trigger finger isn't the cause of the majority of ND's with Glock firearms (other other brands). That would be FOD in the holster which the finger off the trigger won't prevent.

That is the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen on this forum

Why? As mentioned several times, Glocks have always been made with manual thumb safeties but only available through special contracts.

 

[Bradley T]

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[Leo Y]

Unfortunately your trigger finger isn't the cause of the majority of ND's with Glock firearms (other other brands). That would be FOD in the holster which the finger off the trigger won't prevent.

Copy. The pic and "quote" was more for humor than anything else.👆

 

[NoStress]

Voids the warranty

No it dosent.
Glock Pistol Work | Ten Ring Precision
The addition of the manual safety will not void the manufacturers warranty and will make your Glock pistol as safe as any pistol on the market.

if it doesn't go bang when you need it to, that's on you

The safety is mechanically reliable and is going to work. Of course, using a safety properly is on the user. With a Glock the holster is a safety. If it goes bang when it shouldn't that is on the user too.

Get a gun designed from the beginning with a thumb safety.

I bought my G36 used because I got a good deal on it, and I liked it. I wanted a smaller 45 and wanted one designed from the ground up to be small not a scaled down 1911. I guess Wilson has the bugs worked out of his small 45s now, but they still aren't as simple as a G36.

10 Ring Precision has installed countless of them on Glock pistols over the years and are well known. I was always going to have them put one on but never got around to it so my G36 was not much use to me. Used it occasionally when I knew all I was going to do was walk around and would not have to take it off all day. But sometimes I fix stuff for people I don't know. Here we are required have someone's permission to enter their dwelling armed, so I just leave my weapon in my vehicle instead. Several times a day I find myself doing physically awkward things to where it is more comfortable to remove my weapon and a weapon with a manual safety is just a better weapon for me. With Glocks the holster is a safety. I like a complete pistol safety wise that is safe when it is hot when and out of the holster. I have other reasons. I like my 36 and now it is a suitable weapon for my lifestyle. I get that some don't want a manual safety, but for whatever reasons some do. If buying new than sure - I would choose a different mfg. But this thread is for those that have a Glock they want to install a safety on. 10 Ring Precision has some left. They DO NOT void the warranty. They do good work, and they are fast.

 

[sciolist]

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[happyguy]

"This is my safety" View attachment 1369524

Apparently Aleck Baldwin’s safety was defective

 

[hannstv]

If I had a choice, I would have purchased my Glocks with a factory installed safety. I have not had one installed because I like my Glocks stock, except for sights. There have been a lot of experts that have had NDs with Glocks. That is true for all brands, but Glock seems to have more than its fair share.

 

[Deputydave]

If I had a choice, I would have purchased my Glocks with a factory installed safety.

Same here. I've done a couple of polls in the past on several forums. Nothing 'scientific' or anything but they were pretty consistent. About 1/3 would be interested in buying a Glock with a MS. About 1/3 didn't want one but wanted Glock to offer the option like other brands. And surprisingly, about 1/3 didn't want a MS and didn't want YOU to have one either.

As far as I'm concerned, Glock is leaving money on the table by not providing the option. Particularly since they make MS models anyway.

 

[LaneP]

No way would I want an external manual safety on a CCW, but I get that some do. Offering it as an option might make some sales that otherwise go to competitors.

 

[GeorgiaGlocker]

I think they are safe from the factory. There is no reason for another safety since it has 3 built-in safeties. YMMV

 

[It'soncuz!]

Just curious, is the new Ruger Glock clone available with a manual safety, or one of the other clones? Can you get an off brand Glock with a factory installed thumb safety?

 

[nedsled]

I know this is getting a lot of grief, but I kinda see the attraction.

MANY guns, including the M16 I carried in the Marine reserves years ago, have a safety that functions by preventing someone from manually and deliberately pulling the trigger.

Now, YOU may not think your Glock needs one, and that's fine... but if you are gonna say it's pointless and dumb, I'd say you are flying the in the face of 120 years or more of war-fighting practice.

SOME people (apparently including a lotta people who determine how the guns our in military should work) WANT an "oops, I should not have had my finger on the trigger" type of safety.

And that's fine by me.

 

[Deputydave]

I think they are safe from the factory. There is no reason for another safety since it has 3 built-in safeties. YMMV

I can point to a LOT of ND's with Glock that wouldn't have happened if it was equipped with a MS that was engaged. The G43 is just one of many examples.

 

[9x45]

NoStress, you call Glock and ask them. It does void the warranty because it has been modified from the original design. The product maker can say anything they want because they aren't providing the warranty....

 

[BBMW]

That's what any number of people who developed a case of Glock Leg said.

"This is my safety" View attachment 1369524

 

[fuzzy03cls]

The fact LE & gov agencies make up over 70% of Glock's market share in the US, & no one has requested a batch with external safeties, should tell you something....
Needing a safty on a firearm designed to not have one from the ground up, is a training problem with the user.
But of course this thread goes about as expected every few years when they come up.
I'd rock a MS on a Glock just to say I have one. You can run it with it not engaged.

 

[sciolist]

I know this is getting a lot of grief, but I kinda see the attraction.

MANY guns, including the M16 I carried in the Marine reserves years ago, have a safety that functions by preventing someone from manually and deliberately pulling the trigger.

Now, YOU may not think your Glock needs one, and that's fine... but if you are gonna say it's pointless and dumb, I'd say you are flying the in the face of 120 years or more of war-fighting practice.

SOME people (apparently including a lotta people who determine how the guns our in military should work) WANT an "oops, I should not have had my finger on the trigger" type of safety.

And that's fine by me.

Not looking to give anyone grief, but my perspective is that external safeties are primarily intended to prevent the trigger from being actuated by something other than your finger - which is either on or off the trigger. And once your finger is on the trigger, the safety is irrelevant, unless maybe you use it for gripping advantage.

I find slide safeties on pistols to be very awkward, possibly somewhat because I learned on Glocks, but I think also they just don't suit me biomechanically. I want my thumb below the position where I could actuate a safety immediately on draw contact. This isn't an issue with long guns.

The only pistols I have with slide safeties are rimfire, which are shot from low ready, and the safety is disengaged off the clock. Obviously not everyone thinks this way, and there are plenty of open, limited, SS, etc. shooters who can draw and shoot just fine with a slide safety.

Part of the Glock design involves establishing a minimum trigger weight that's considered objectively safe without a slide safety. If I were going to consider a gun with a slide safety, I would at least want a much better trigger out of the deal. Even the DA triggers in my DA/SA guns are under #4, and way smoother than most OE-ish Glock triggers.

From my standpoint, a Glock with a slide safety is a stick with two short ends. I have flat safeties on my DA/SA guns, so they are basically just pins. They never perform a safety function either objectively or per rules.

I would agree that a hot gun with a slide safety being thrown around in a grappling, etc. situation is safer than a hot gun with only a heavier trigger - assuming the shooter was able to get it back on safe before losing control of it.

 

[nedsled]

Not looking to give anyone grief, but my perspective is that external safeties are primarily intended to prevent the trigger from being actuated by something other than your finger - which is either on or off the trigger. And once your finger is on the trigger, the safety is irrelevant, unless maybe you use it for gripping advantage.

I find slide safeties on pistols to be very awkward, possibly somewhat because I learned on Glocks, but I think also they just don't suit me biomechanically. I want my thumb below the position where I could actuate a safety immediately on draw contact. This isn't an issue with long guns.

The only pistols I have with slide safeties are rimfire, which are shot from low ready, and the safety is disengaged off the clock. Obviously not everyone thinks this way, and there are plenty of open, limited, SS, etc. shooters who can draw and shoot just fine with a slide safety.

Part of the Glock design involves establishing a minimum trigger weight that's considered objectively safe without a slide safety. If I were going to consider a gun with a slide safety, I would at least want a much better trigger out of the deal. Even the DA triggers in my DA/SA guns are under #4, and way smoother than most OE-ish Glock triggers.

From my standpoint, a Glock with a slide safety is a stick with two short ends. I have flat safeties on my DA/SA guns, so they are basically just pins. They never perform a safety function either objectively or per rules.

I would agree that a hot gun with a slide safety being thrown around in a grappling, etc. situation is safer than a hot gun with only a heavier trigger - assuming the shooter was able to get it back on safe before losing control of it.

I was not a combat Marine... just a "Never did s peacetime reservist".

But from what I've read of war fighting from combat guys... and just imagining walking around with a lot of the dudes I knew in the Marines with loaded guns... I DEFINITELY want us all to have a "we're all nervous and a little stressed out let's not accidentally shoot our buddies" safety [in the Marines].

 

[FrankenGunBuilder]

Voids the warranty, and if it doesn't go bang when you need it to, that's on you. Get a gun designed from the beginning with a thumb safety.

It specifically states it does not void the Glock warranty.

 

[WAA]

JHC there’s 400,000,000 firearms in this country, and you can’t find something you like without taking a Glock and mutilating it?