What would be your main considerations for adding shot gun slugs into your shotgun home defense plans ? I do admire a 12 gauge, .72 cal , 1 oz. projectile traveling at 1,600 feet per second with 2,300 foot pounds of energy . When aiming a shotgun like a rifle (as you should be doing !) a shotgun slug is a formidable round !
Shotgun Slugs for Home Defense ?
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What would be your main considerations for adding shot gun slugs into your shotgun home defense plans ? I do admire a 12 gauge, .72 cal , 1 oz. projectile traveling at 1,600 feet per second with 2,300 foot pounds of energy . When aiming a shotgun like a rifle (as you should be doing !) a shotgun slug is a formidable round !
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That's about the only realistic option where I would be concerned about over penetration. I don't know, but I'd expect it to exit the house, even after going through an intruder.
A far less concern, I don't think it'd go through a vest, if you're concerned about bad guys wearing armor.
A far less concern, I don't think it'd go through a vest, if you're concerned about bad guys wearing armor.
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Most level 3A armor should stop buck and slug. It's gonna hurt though.
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A friend of mines (retired leo) shot a bad guy with a slug. Unbelievably devastating.
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I keep buckshot in my HD shotgun and have a few slugs handy in case I need to shoot through walls or something.
As best I can recall, I know one person who was killed with a shotgun and one who killed somebody withy a shotgun and slugs were used in both cases. The family friend who was killed with a shotgun took a slug completely through his body from side to side, while sitting in his truck.
My cousin, who killed a guy with a shotgun, was responding to a domestic call and the guy shot at him with a shotgun when he pulled into the driveway. He fired buckshot, then ducked behind his car and switch to slugs. He fired one shot through the guy's screen door and through the refrigerator he was using for cover and killed him.
As best I can recall, I know one person who was killed with a shotgun and one who killed somebody withy a shotgun and slugs were used in both cases. The family friend who was killed with a shotgun took a slug completely through his body from side to side, while sitting in his truck.
My cousin, who killed a guy with a shotgun, was responding to a domestic call and the guy shot at him with a shotgun when he pulled into the driveway. He fired buckshot, then ducked behind his car and switch to slugs. He fired one shot through the guy's screen door and through the refrigerator he was using for cover and killed him.
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No benefit at that range IMO. It won’t defeat body armor. It’s a devastating projectile no doubt, but so is buckshot at close range.
I really like 27 pellet #4 buck at inside the home distances. A little spread is a good thing. Very devastating. Less over penetration. Close enough range you’re not throwing pellet off target.
I really like 27 pellet #4 buck at inside the home distances. A little spread is a good thing. Very devastating. Less over penetration. Close enough range you’re not throwing pellet off target.
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The only firearm I leave out of the safe and accessible is my Winchester Defender 1300. I paid around $300 for it. Not a lot to lose if I'm burglarized. Totally reliable. and if 8 rounds of 00 won't solve the problem it would way beyond my capability with any of my AR's or high capacity firearms.
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I had some issues with star crimped buckshot "mushrooming" on the end after being left loaded in my VersaMax tactical with 8 rounds in the tube. So I switched over to roll crimp - and then had an issue with the plastic cover plate cracking.
I switched to slugs and no problems.
I did find some roll crimp buckshot with a cardboard cover plate - so I have now switched back to buckshot.
I think slugs may be more durable if left loaded for a really long time.
YMMV
I switched to slugs and no problems.
I did find some roll crimp buckshot with a cardboard cover plate - so I have now switched back to buckshot.
I think slugs may be more durable if left loaded for a really long time.
YMMV
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I’ve killed a few moose with Brennekes. Never recovered the slug, all, through and through. Yep, they work just fine. I’ve seen one not do as well in a human when it was put in the wrong spot. Drilled a nice 3/4 inch tunnel through his shoulder. He ran off and was caught a little while later after giving up.
For my home defense 870 I have the tube full of Federal LE 9 pellet with three more of those and three slugs in the side saddle. Same load out I had at work. In something like a house or apartment buckshot works really well. And, while I’m not usually concerned with over penetration, with a 2 3/4 slug it can actually be a real problem.
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I just use the same slugs I have for brown bear protection. My shot gun is always ready to go, be it 4 legged or 2.
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I love slugs. Undeniably effective.
Like others have mentioned though, I keep 00 buck in the tube, but I have a couple of slugs in a side saddle ready to go if needed.
Like others have mentioned though, I keep 00 buck in the tube, but I have a couple of slugs in a side saddle ready to go if needed.
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OP, describe the construction of your home, your neighbors' homes, and their proxminity. These factors, IMHO, mattter in your ammo selection.
I live in a vinyl-sided frame home as do my neighbores who are 20 feet away from me. If I loose a slug, it may kill a neighbor, so I can't use them. I use #4 buck because it doesn't travel well.
OTOH friends live on 20+ acres tracts and 00 buck is just fine...for them.
Describe your circumstances.
I live in a vinyl-sided frame home as do my neighbores who are 20 feet away from me. If I loose a slug, it may kill a neighbor, so I can't use them. I use #4 buck because it doesn't travel well.
OTOH friends live on 20+ acres tracts and 00 buck is just fine...for them.
Describe your circumstances.
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My HD shotguns have a slug in the front hole of the side saddle but the rest are buckshot. YMMV. tom.
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Both would hurt REALLY bad, I prefer buckshot inside, slugs if you are outside with some distance..
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holy crap, that nuts.
Same here buck shot in my 12, cruiser ready, 4 slugs on side holder.
what I grab for home defense in my own head is always changing. AR suppressed, Glock 45 suppressed, 12g, all mostly ready to grab if needed. I probably should have more of a plan.
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After fairly serious study , for inside the home I am a fan of 12 gauge #1 buck shot and 20 gauge #3 buck shot as best all -around HD use . I do have a few 5 round boxes of 3” and 2.75” 12 gauge slugs but not sure if I would ever add to the HD rotation - mainly due to higher percentage of miss potential with a slug versus a fist size coverage of buck shot at internal house HD distances .
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