[clifton august]

This is my first post.
My EDC is a SCT G19 frame with Glock internals. The slide is PSA with an OEM Glock barrel. I use Glock mags as well. I’ve shot around 300 rounds with no issues. Should reliability be a problem? The reason for this approach is that the SCT fits my hand perfectly; the Glock Gen 3 is not a good fit for me at all. The reason for the PSA slide is that I prefer front serrations; my Gen 3 obviously does not have them. Plus I really like the angled front for easier return to holster. With that being said, is this setup viable for EDC or should I return to my stock Glock 19.3? I thank you in advance for any insight.

 

[VASCAR2]

I have no experience with a SCT frame but I have three Combat Armory frames. Two are used with Advantage Arms 22 LR conversions and one with a 9 mm Dagger slide. None of my three CA frames show any wear with normal use. With good components I suspect the SCT would work for EDC. The only issue I’ve seen with Dagger slides are broken strikers/Firing Pins. My Dagger slides have been completely reliable.

A common trend with Glock and Dagger slides is frequent dry firing can shorten striker/firing pin life. I have spare parts for my Glock pistols in the event a part fails. I would be comfortable using a SCT frame with Glock parts and Dagger slide if it proved reliable.

 

[Singlestack Wonder]

Not a Glock.

Post should be in General Firearms forum.

 

[clifton august]

My apologies. As I stated, this was my first post.

 

[familyman357]

Oh boy.

 

[cciman]

My apologies. As I stated, this was my first post.

It's OK, not strictly enforced - threads slide through occasionally. Welcome!

Don't let it happen again.

Most fan boys here would question your OEM gen3 "not fitting" and suggest you prioritize the need for ultimate reliability vs. comfort. OEM is king here. SCT is a clone.

 

[racer88]

You're kind of barking up the wrong tree here. First you posted about a not-a-Glock in the General Glocking section instead of General Firearms (other brands).

So, you're asking a bunch of Glock fans whether your not-a-Glock clone will be "reliable." I'm surprised that the usual suspects have held back do far! LOL! They'll tell you, "Just get a Glock, if you want Glock reliability." And they wouldn't be wrong.

Mind you, I'm a Glock fan AND I build Glock clones. My builds are as reliable as Glocks... with emphasis on "MY builds."

You didn't say which kind of parts are in your PSA slide. But I'm guessing you bought it already built (with internal parts already installed). If so, I'd assume the PSA slide has PSA (or other aftermarket sourced) parts.

Did you put the Glock parts into the SCT frame yourself? Just curious.

When you put the upper and lower together, did you function and safety test it with snap caps / dummy rounds?

In the end... will it be as reliable as a Glock? Maybe... Maybe not. It's not a Glock. The question is do you have confidence in the parts working together properly? Do you have confidence in your ability to put it together and thoroughly test it?

I carry one of my P80 builds (made with a serialized frame). I put 1000 trouble-free rounds through it before I deemed it worthy of EDC duty. But at 7400 rounds, the OEM factory Glock firing pin broke! Mind you that can happen with a pure factory Glock, too. The trigger spring on my Gen 2 Glock 19 broke at about 8,000 rounds. Stuff can break if you use it.

Your mileage may vary. But don't expect a bunch of Glock fans to tell you, "Oh yeah... you're good to go. That not-a-Glock is just as good as a factory Glock." Not going to happen.

 

[cciman]

More subtle considerations at play here too: if you are involved in a scenario where you shoot the gun, can the non-factory aspect of the gun be a source of potential liability for you in a court of law where nothing is predictable. Lawyers charge by the minute -- sure they might be able to argue it out, but it will take time (weeks, months, not minutes).

 

[cliff august]

It's OK, not strictly enforced - threads slide through occasionally. Welcome!

Don't let it happen again.

Most fan boys here would question your OEM gen3 "not fitting" and suggest you prioritize the need for ultimate reliability vs. comfort. OEM is king here. SCT is a clone.

cciman,
I really liked "prioritize the need for ultimate reliability vs. comfort." An obvious statement, but one that I needed to hear. Because of your reply, I'm going to fit a Gen 2 frame with OEMs and that will be my new EDC.

Thank you for the "Welcome" and the advice. I appreciate it.

 

[cliff august]

Oh boy.

familyman357,
I totally get your reply. You've been here 18 years, have thousands of posts, and have probably "read it all." And that's great! Maybe I asked the wrong question here and if so, I do apologize. I was just wanting to know from experienced owners (like you) their advice. I totally appreciate what you and all the others have done to build this forum up to what it is.

 

[cliff august]

You're kind of barking up the wrong tree here. First you posted about a not-a-Glock in the General Glocking section instead of General Firearms (other brands).

So, you're asking a bunch of Glock fans whether your not-a-Glock clone will be "reliable." I'm surprised that the usual suspects have held back do far! LOL! They'll tell you, "Just get a Glock, if you want Glock reliability." And they wouldn't be wrong.

Mind you, I'm a Glock fan AND I build Glock clones. My builds are as reliable as Glocks... with emphasis on "MY builds."

You didn't say which kind of parts are in your PSA slide. But I'm guessing you bought it already built (with internal parts already installed). If so, I'd assume the PSA slide has PSA (or other aftermarket sourced) parts.

Did you put the Glock parts into the SCT frame yourself? Just curious.

When you put the upper and lower together, did you function and safety test it with snap caps / dummy rounds?

In the end... will it be as reliable as a Glock? Maybe... Maybe not. It's not a Glock. The question is do you have confidence in the parts working together properly? Do you have confidence in your ability to put it together and thoroughly test it?

I carry one of my P80 builds (made with a serialized frame). I put 1000 trouble-free rounds through it before I deemed it worthy of EDC duty. But at 7400 rounds, the OEM factory Glock firing pin broke! Mind you that can happen with a pure factory Glock, too. The trigger spring on my Gen 2 Glock 19 broke at about 8,000 rounds. Stuff can break if you use it.

Your mileage may vary. But don't expect a bunch of Glock fans to tell you, "Oh yeah... you're good to go. That not-a-Glock is just as good as a factory Glock." Not going to happen.

racer88,
Thank you for your time in your reply. First, I'm new here and, in error, did indeed post in the wrong section. I was asking in sincerity because I really wanted to know what Glock guys really thought about it. I would not have posted if I wasn't going to seriously consider answers. I honestly did not realize that there was such a "disdain" for crossing the line of asking (what I consider) a legitimate question. I totally understand the argument of "total OEM," but again, I was just asking. I realize that you guys have read so many posts that have obvious answers and redundancy gets "old" after a while. In hindsight, I should not have asked. Accept my apology.

I am 60 years old, a husband, father, grandfather, veteran, and retired building contractor. I own 21 Glocks and about a dozen clones. I have built about 50 clones since I retired last year. I started carrying a handgun 40 years ago. I've been a Ruger and S & W fan, having them as EDCs for years as well.

I wasn't wanting an exceptance with the SCT frame, just advice. And I truly accept your comments and thank you for them.

 

[mmcbeat]

Welcome. Don’t worry about the self appointed forum cops. I suggest you look around a bit and get to know GT. There is a lot of good information to be had here. Everyone was new once upon a time.

 

[cliff august]

Welcome. Don’t worry about the self appointed forum cops. I suggest you look around a bit and get to know GT. There is a lot of good information to be had here. Everyone was new once upon a time.

mmcbeat,
Thank you. I really mean that.
Your reply was refreshing.

 

[racer88]

. I honestly did not realize that there was such a "disdain" for crossing the line of asking (what I consider) a legitimate question. I totally understand the argument of "total OEM," but again, I was just asking. I realize that you guys have read so many posts that have obvious answers and redundancy gets "old" after a while. In hindsight, I should not have asked. Accept my apology.

No apology needed. I was just trying to "warn" you about the responses you may get from the group here. They can sometimes be a bit "blunt." They're just not very friendly to anything that is a clone or even a modified factory Glock. Glocks are pretty much sacrosanct. Wanna build an AR-15 clone and talk about it here? No problem! LOL! But go beyond changing the sights on a factory Glock, and you've committed blasphemy. Build a clone and ask for help with a problem??? OMG! They will draw and quarter you for that.

It's actually a good forum, though. There are just a few folks that cannot resist giving hell to anyone who dares post about a Glock clone or highly-modified Glock. I was just offering a "heads up." Stick around. Lots of good people here, too.

I am 60 years old, a husband, father, grandfather, veteran, and retired building contractor. I own 21 Glocks and about a dozen clones. I have built about 50 clones since I retired last year.

Holy moly! So, you have some experience. I have built only seven Glock clones so far. My latest was built on a stripped SCT17 serialized frame. So the frame did not require any milling or finishing. I just added the parts. This was a "theme" build intended for range fun only. I'm still working out what is the best recoil spring weight with the compensator.

It was my first SCT frame. So far, I like it! I find it quite comfortable. But I'm not very "frame-sensitive." I like my regular Glocks. I like my Polymer80 frames, too. I also have an FNH FNP-45 Tactical pistol which is a double-stack .45-ACP beast! And I have "medium glove" size hands. If I can get my hand around it, I'll shoot it.

You said you've fired 300 rounds so far with no issues. That's a good sign. If you're going to carry it, I'd fire another 500+ rounds through it. If no problems, I'd call it good!

My EDC - built on a serialized "100%" Polymer80 frame. I've got 8,800 rounds through it.

 

[cliff august]

No apology needed. I was just trying to "warn" you about the responses you may get from the group here. They can sometimes be a bit "blunt." They're just not very friendly to anything that is a clone or even a modified factory Glock. Glocks are pretty much sacrosanct. Wanna build an AR-15 clone and talk about it here? No problem! LOL! But go beyond changing the sights on a factory Glock, and you've committed blasphemy. Build a clone and ask for help with a problem??? OMG! They will draw and quarter you for that.



Holy moly! So, you have some experience. I have built only seven Glock clones so far. My latest was built on a stripped SCT17 serialized frame. So the frame did not require any milling or finishing. I just added the parts. This was a "theme" build intended for range fun only. I'm still working out what is the best recoil spring weight with the compensator.
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It was my first SCT frame. So far, I like it! I find it quite comfortable. But I'm not very "frame-sensitive." I like my regular Glocks. I like my Polymer80 frames, too. I also have an FNH FNP-45 Tactical pistol which is a double-stack .45-ACP beast! And I have "medium glove" size hands. If I can get my hand around it, I'll shoot it.

You said you've fired 300 rounds so far with no issues. That's a good sign. If you're going to carry it, I'd fire another 500+ rounds through it. If no problems, I'd call it good!

My EDC - built on a serialized "100%" Polymer80 frame. I've got 8,800 rounds through it.
View attachment 1335114

No apology needed. I was just trying to "warn" you about the responses you may get from the group here. They can sometimes be a bit "blunt." They're just not very friendly to anything that is a clone or even a modified factory Glock. Glocks are pretty much sacrosanct. Wanna build an AR-15 clone and talk about it here? No problem! LOL! But go beyond changing the sights on a factory Glock, and you've committed blasphemy. Build a clone and ask for help with a problem??? OMG! They will draw and quarter you for that.



Holy moly! So, you have some experience. I have built only seven Glock clones so far. My latest was built on a stripped SCT17 serialized frame. So the frame did not require any milling or finishing. I just added the parts. This was a "theme" build intended for range fun only. I'm still working out what is the best recoil spring weight with the compensator.
View attachment 1335109

It was my first SCT frame. So far, I like it! I find it quite comfortable. But I'm not very "frame-sensitive." I like my regular Glocks. I like my Polymer80 frames, too. I also have an FNH FNP-45 Tactical pistol which is a double-stack .45-ACP beast! And I have "medium glove" size hands. If I can get my hand around it, I'll shoot it.

You said you've fired 300 rounds so far with no issues. That's a good sign. If you're going to carry it, I'd fire another 500+ rounds through it. If no problems, I'd call it good!

My EDC - built on a serialized "100%" Polymer80 frame. I've got 8,800 rounds through it.
View attachment 1335114

No apology needed. I was just trying to "warn" you about the responses you may get from the group here. They can sometimes be a bit "blunt." They're just not very friendly to anything that is a clone or even a modified factory Glock. Glocks are pretty much sacrosanct. Wanna build an AR-15 clone and talk about it here? No problem! LOL! But go beyond changing the sights on a factory Glock, and you've committed blasphemy. Build a clone and ask for help with a problem??? OMG! They will draw and quarter you for that.

It's actually a good forum, though. There are just a few folks that cannot resist giving hell to anyone who dares post about a Glock clone or highly-modified Glock. I was just offering a "heads up." Stick around. Lots of good people here, too.



Holy moly! So, you have some experience. I have built only seven Glock clones so far. My latest was built on a stripped SCT17 serialized frame. So the frame did not require any milling or finishing. I just added the parts. This was a "theme" build intended for range fun only. I'm still working out what is the best recoil spring weight with the compensator.
View attachment 1335109

It was my first SCT frame. So far, I like it! I find it quite comfortable. But I'm not very "frame-sensitive." I like my regular Glocks. I like my Polymer80 frames, too. I also have an FNH FNP-45 Tactical pistol which is a double-stack .45-ACP beast! And I have "medium glove" size hands. If I can get my hand around it, I'll shoot it.

You said you've fired 300 rounds so far with no issues. That's a good sign. If you're going to carry it, I'd fire another 500+ rounds through it. If no problems, I'd call it good!

My EDC - built on a serialized "100%" Polymer80 frame. I've got 8,800 rounds through it.
View attachment 1335114

No apology needed. I was just trying to "warn" you about the responses you may get from the group here. They can sometimes be a bit "blunt." They're just not very friendly to anything that is a clone or even a modified factory Glock. Glocks are pretty much sacrosanct. Wanna build an AR-15 clone and talk about it here? No problem! LOL! But go beyond changing the sights on a factory Glock, and you've committed blasphemy. Build a clone and ask for help with a problem??? OMG! They will draw and quarter you for that.

It's actually a good forum, though. There are just a few folks that cannot resist giving hell to anyone who dares post about a Glock clone or highly-modified Glock. I was just offering a "heads up." Stick around. Lots of good people here, too.



Holy moly! So, you have some experience. I have built only seven Glock clones so far. My latest was built on a stripped SCT17 serialized frame. So the frame did not require any milling or finishing. I just added the parts. This was a "theme" build intended for range fun only. I'm still working out what is the best recoil spring weight with the compensator.
View attachment 1335109

It was my first SCT frame. So far, I like it! I find it quite comfortable. But I'm not very "frame-sensitive." I like my regular Glocks. I like my Polymer80 frames, too. I also have an FNH FNP-45 Tactical pistol which is a double-stack .45-ACP beast! And I have "medium glove" size hands. If I can get my hand around it, I'll shoot it.

You said you've fired 300 rounds so far with no issues. That's a good sign. If you're going to carry it, I'd fire another 500+ rounds through it. If no problems, I'd call it good!

My EDC - built on a serialized "100%" Polymer80 frame. I've got 8,800 rounds through it.
View attachment 1335114

No apology needed. I was just trying to "warn" you about the responses you may get from the group here. They can sometimes be a bit "blunt." They're just not very friendly to anything that is a clone or even a modified factory Glock. Glocks are pretty much sacrosanct. Wanna build an AR-15 clone and talk about it here? No problem! LOL! But go beyond changing the sights on a factory Glock, and you've committed blasphemy. Build a clone and ask for help with a problem??? OMG! They will draw and quarter you for that.

It's actually a good forum, though. There are just a few folks that cannot resist giving hell to anyone who dares post about a Glock clone or highly-modified Glock. I was just offering a "heads up." Stick around. Lots of good people here, too.



Holy moly! So, you have some experience. I have built only seven Glock clones so far. My latest was built on a stripped SCT17 serialized frame. So the frame did not require any milling or finishing. I just added the parts. This was a "theme" build intended for range fun only. I'm still working out what is the best recoil spring weight with the compensator.
View attachment 1335109

It was my first SCT frame. So far, I like it! I find it quite comfortable. But I'm not very "frame-sensitive." I like my regular Glocks. I like my Polymer80 frames, too. I also have an FNH FNP-45 Tactical pistol which is a double-stack .45-ACP beast! And I have "medium glove" size hands. If I can get my hand around it, I'll shoot it.

You said you've fired 300 rounds so far with no issues. That's a good sign. If you're going to carry it, I'd fire another 500+ rounds through it. If no problems, I'd call it good!

My EDC - built on a serialized "100%" Polymer80 frame. I've got 8,800 rounds through it.
View attachment 1335114
Very Nice Builds! I see a lot of "attention to detail" going on! Almost all of mine were "generic" [yawn]. Totally boring to your herd! I like them!

Hey, and I totally appreciate your post to me. That means a lot!

 

[familyman357]

Oh boy.

familyman357,
I totally get your reply. You've been here 18 years, have thousands of posts, and have probably "read it all." And that's great! Maybe I asked the wrong question here and if so, I do apologize. I was just wanting to know from experienced owners (like you) their advice. I totally appreciate what you and all the others have done to build this forum up to what it is.

lol, no, I just mean that this board tends to have a puritanical bent when it comes to Glocks and it can be rough on people asking about Glock derivatives.

 

[cliff august]

lol, no, I just mean that this board tends to have a puritanical bent when it comes to Glocks and it can be rough on people asking about Glock derivatives.

familyman357,
Good deal. I feel relieved. Thanks for that reply.

I have returned. See pic.

 

[cliff august]

It's OK, not strictly enforced - threads slide through occasionally. Welcome!

Don't let it happen again.

Most fan boys here would question your OEM gen3 "not fitting" and suggest you prioritize the need for ultimate reliability vs. comfort. OEM is king here. SCT is a clone.

cciman,
I took your advice. Went to a Gen 3. Before and After Pic.

 

[Singlestack Wonder]

No apology needed. I was just trying to "warn" you about the responses you may get from the group here. They can sometimes be a bit "blunt." They're just not very friendly to anything that is a clone or even a modified factory Glock. Glocks are pretty much sacrosanct. Wanna build an AR-15 clone and talk about it here? No problem! LOL! But go beyond changing the sights on a factory Glock, and you've committed blasphemy. Build a clone and ask for help with a problem??? OMG! They will draw and quarter you for that.

It's actually a good forum, though. There are just a few folks that cannot resist giving hell to anyone who dares post about a Glock clone or highly-modified Glock. I was just offering a "heads up." Stick around. Lots of good people here, too.



Holy moly! So, you have some experience. I have built only seven Glock clones so far. My latest was built on a stripped SCT17 serialized frame. So the frame did not require any milling or finishing. I just added the parts. This was a "theme" build intended for range fun only. I'm still working out what is the best recoil spring weight with the compensator.
View attachment 1335109

It was my first SCT frame. So far, I like it! I find it quite comfortable. But I'm not very "frame-sensitive." I like my regular Glocks. I like my Polymer80 frames, too. I also have an FNH FNP-45 Tactical pistol which is a double-stack .45-ACP beast! And I have "medium glove" size hands. If I can get my hand around it, I'll shoot it.

You said you've fired 300 rounds so far with no issues. That's a good sign. If you're going to carry it, I'd fire another 500+ rounds through it. If no problems, I'd call it good!

My EDC - built on a serialized "100%" Polymer80 frame. I've got 8,800 rounds through it.
View attachment 1335114

These non Glock firearms need to be posted in the General Firearms forum as this space is reserved for Glock pistols, not clones.

Wishing Glock would sue these cheap copy cat manufacturers out of business,

 

[L-2]

Post 1 (aka OP),
Congratulations on your build and you're an expert yourself, having 20 Glocks and 10 clones.
Only time and many rounds will tell if the subject build is reliable. Reliability is often measured in rounds-fired in this case, rather than chronological (time from build or being owned). Since you're the builder/owner/carrier, that reliability is up to you.

I've had guns which seemed reliable, at least for 300 rounds, only to begin having some intermittent failures, perhaps at 1000 rounds. Sometimes, these failures get more frequent, other times the malfunctions just stay intermittent, seemingly without a cause or cure. I've had malfunctions occur, not just with Glocks, but other brand and platforms, too, over the years.

The subject build looks very nice and let us know how it goes as round counts get higher. Perhaps keep the thread alive with periodic reports as you shoot more and more rounds; maybe making various modifications or changes. Some folks have disclosed having 10s of thousands, even 100s of thousands of rounds through various Glocks, but haven't had a thread/blog as to what has occurred, if anything, reliability-wise over time. It may make for an interesting thread.

Unknown whether this thread will stay here or get moved, as the forum's owners/moderators aren't always consistent regarding where threads are put.