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I like 5.7. I have the Smith and Wesson 5.7, Ruger 57 and the Ruger LC Carbine. With offerings from AAC and Fiocchi, the cost to shoot them isn’t too bad. I like to shoot with my SD ammo and the cost to shoot FNSS198 (Green Tips) is about the same as other premium ammo in other calibers I own, maybe a little less.
I think it’s a viable option really.
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That could be. Never shot the Ruger. I have handled pretty much all of them. The Ruger was second to market, I believe
I had issues with the original FN as well but the newer MRD has been flawless. You are certainly way more qualified than I am and have far more experience in the the amazing pistol world, but if you haven’t tried the newest iteration it could be worth checking out. The grip is still brick like though and the safety is in a weird spot but the reliability has been great.
I have not played with the newest version from FN so I cannot judge on that one.
 
I like 5.7. I have the Smith and Wesson 5.7, Ruger 57 and the Ruger LC Carbine. With offerings from AAC and Fiocchi, the cost to shoot them isn’t too bad. I like to shoot with my SD ammo and the cost to shoot FNSS198 (Green Tips) is about the same as other premium ammo in other calibers I own, maybe a little less.
I think it’s a viable option really.
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I have the smith 22 mag. I like that one a lot. If the 5.7 is the same then it is a good one.
 
Discussion starter · #27 ·
Congrats on your new purchase and great review!!


I’ve been a big fan of the round for a long time. It’s incredibly accurate and the platforms I’ve used have been reliable. As family man, it’s a caliber that my wife and sons can shoot with ease. Before the scamdemic, I was able to purchase a few thousand rounds for a really good deal and I pick some up whenever I can, especially when I see it on sale.

I have had the PSA and Ruger, but sold them both and finally settled on the newest iteration of the FN because it can share mags with my Banshee 5.7. That combo is a force.

Great review of the Tisas and I may look into one for my oldest son.

The round definitely seems to stir up some controversy and people either seem to love it or hate it. Would it be the round I’d bet the farm on? No, but it’s certainly capable as a self defense round and is a fantastic option for the range and new or inexperienced shooters.

I love the capacity and the way the Banshee folds up (the the LAW folder) and the FN, I can easily carry and transport a formidable package, that can get multiple rounds on target with efficiency and accuracy. They make a variety of SD rounds for it as well and I truly enjoy shooting it.

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A very capable option you have there!

Yeah, I agree, the 5.7 provokes a reaction. I suspect the industry will let Tisas, Ruger and other lower-end players test the waters before investing in the R&D to develop their own…..orrrrr…. The big names could just see this as a niche Airsoft type market and ignore it all together. I am not aware that Alien produces a .22 line, which may be how this is viewed.

The round will be interesting to watch.
 
Discussion starter · #29 ·
No

I had the FN and it felt like cheap garbage. It’s just not for me.
And I understand that, but is an all-steel hand-fitted and detailed pistol needed for the pressures the 5.7 exerts? Form follows function and all that.

Yes, absolutely the current 5.7 pistols are not quality-driven masterworks. BUT… a Ruger LCP in 5.7…?.? Yeah, the long cartridge is an issue, so a 5.7 derringer? Hmmm…. Bring back the 4-shot COP derringer in 5.7. The beauty of ignorance is imagination can run amok..
 
A very capable option you have there!

Yeah, I agree, the 5.7 provokes a reaction. I suspect the industry will let Tisas, Ruger and other lower-end players test the waters before investing in the R&D to develop their own…..orrrrr…. The big names could just see this as a niche Airsoft type market and ignore it all together. I am not aware that Alien produces a .22 line, which may be how this is viewed.

The round will be interesting to watch.
Don't forget that Keltec also has two 5.7 options
 
And I understand that, but is an all-steel hand-fitted and detailed pistol needed for the pressures the 5.7 exerts? Form follows function and all that.

Yes, absolutely the current 5.7 pistols are not quality-driven masterworks. BUT… a Ruger LCP in 5.7…?.? Yeah, the long cartridge is an issue, so a 5.7 derringer? Hmmm…. Bring back the 4-shot COP derringer in 5.7. The beauty of ignorance is imagination can run amok..

The round needs a minimum barrel length to get velocity and have the round function as designed. So, don't expect that.
 
The round needs a minimum barrel length to get velocity and have the round function as designed. So, don't expect that.
You never know. The market certainly did it with 22mag. Manufacturers don’t always care about the end result or the gun’s effectiveness in the real world. They just want to sell stuff.
 
You never know. The market certainly did it with 22mag. Manufacturers don’t always care about the end result or the gun’s effectiveness in the real world. They just want to sell stuff.
I vaguely remember FN talking about this. And, this topic used to be discussed on the FN Forum years ago.

I have owned several 5.7x28mm weapons, and I was once an admin at the FN Forum back when FN actually sponsored the forum. So, I am very familiar with the caliber.

It would be a dumb idea to have a pistol with that short of a barrel for a 5.7 round. Terminal ballistics would be screwed up royally.

Could a 3rd party do it? Maybe. But, I don't think you would want it. There is a reason why all the 5.7 pistols are the size that they are.
 
I vaguely remember FN talking about this. And, this topic used to be discussed on the FN Forum years ago.

I have owned several 5.7x28mm weapons, and I was once an admin at the FN Forum back when FN actually sponsored the forum. So, I am very familiar with the caliber.

It would be a dumb idea to have a pistol with that short of a barrel for a 5.7 round. Terminal ballistics would be screwed up royally.

Could a 3rd party do it? Maybe. But, I don't think you would want it. There is a reason why all the 5.7 pistols are the size that they are.
22mag was screwed up royally by putting it in a handgun in general.
 
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These are only for use in the FiveSeven chambered firearms. These bullets are state of the art, aerodynamically optimized hunting and varmint bullets designed to put unparalleled accuracy, flight performance and long range stability in the hands of the handloader. All bullets feature a polycarbonate tip.
Independent testing performed for Federal Agencies found them among the best 5.7 defense rounds for wound formation.
Technical Information:

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Bullet Length: 0.795"
Bullet Style: Ballistic tipped Boat Tail
Velocity from FiveSeven pistol: 1575 FPS
Ballistics Information:
Sectional Density: 0.142
 
Discussion starter · #38 ·
I vaguely remember FN talking about this. And, this topic used to be discussed on the FN Forum years ago.

I have owned several 5.7x28mm weapons, and I was once an admin at the FN Forum back when FN actually sponsored the forum. So, I am very familiar with the caliber.

It would be a dumb idea to have a pistol with that short of a barrel for a 5.7 round. Terminal ballistics would be screwed up royally.

Could a 3rd party do it? Maybe. But, I don't think you would want it. There is a reason why all the 5.7 pistols are the size that they are.
I accept your knowledge on this topic… BUT… if you are writing from an optimal performance perspective, I have no doubt you are correct. But what is needed for. 5.7 round to work?

Exp: stuffing a 357 cartridge in a derringer. All you want the derringer to do is ignite the primer. In a derringer package, optimal terminal ballistics isn’t even part of the discussion.
 
Discussion starter · #39 ·
New all from vanguard 1575 FPS out of a pistol barrel


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We hope everyone is doing great.

NOW AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE

These are custom manufactured 5.7x28 rounds using Nosler Bullets - 50 grain projectile and new brass. These are only for use in the FiveSeven handgun. They are not recommended for use in P90 or PS90. These Nosler bullets are state of the art, aerodynamically optimized hunting and varmint bullets designed to put unparalleled accuracy, flight performance and long range stability in the hands of the handloader. These have been loaded for optimal self defense particularly for home defense. All bullets feature a polycarbonate tip.

These are the same Nosler bullets they made for production of 224 combined technology bullets but the tip is ORANGE not white.

Technical Information:

Bullet Weight: 50 Grains
Bullet Length: 0.795"
Bullet Style: Ballistic tipped Boat Tail

Velocity from FiveSeven pistol: 1575 FPS

Ballistics Information:

Sectional Density: 0.142
Ballistic Coefficient: 0.238

Box of 25 rounds
Please click price for website link

Sale price now $38.95 / per 25rnds

shipping starts at $16.50

These are only for use in the FiveSeven chambered firearms. These bullets are state of the art, aerodynamically optimized hunting and varmint bullets designed to put unparalleled accuracy, flight performance and long range stability in the hands of the handloader. All bullets feature a polycarbonate tip.
Independent testing performed for Federal Agencies found them among the best 5.7 defense rounds for wound formation.
Technical Information:

Bullet Weight: 50 Grains
Bullet Length: 0.795"
Bullet Style: Ballistic tipped Boat Tail
Velocity from FiveSeven pistol: 1575 FPS
Ballistics Information:
Sectional Density: 0.142
Wonder why the limit to the FN? At a buck-fifty each ormso, clearly this is a niche market in a niche market. Still, boutique cartridge development is a testament that someone things the 5.7 will be around for awhile.
 
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