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I know a guy that works overseas, he can't have a modern semi-auto for defense. I was thinking that Jeff Cooper's scout rifle would be a good alternative, then thought that the Browning Lever Rifle (BLR) gets pretty close to the scout rifle concept.

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#4 ·
A lever action in any decent caliber fits the scout rifle criteria. I think Cooper even mentions having one in places like New York and other commie states.

I have a Marlin 94 in 44 mag which I often grab when I'm out beating the bushes for deer. It holds a bunch of cartridges and is a darn good short range thumper. I also have lever guns in 30-30, 35 rem. 375 Win, and 308 Win. Killed deer with all of them but the 44 is my favorite brush gun.

My 308 is a Savage 99 and is a lot heavier than the Marlins. Not sure what the BLR weighs but that's a consideration if you are carrying it around.
 
#5 ·
mac66 said:
A lever action in any decent caliber fits the scout rifle criteria. I think Cooper even mentions having one in places like New York and other commie states.

I have a Marlin 94 in 44 mag which I often grab when I'm out beating the bushes for deer. It holds a bunch of cartridges and is a darn good short range thumper. I also have lever guns in 30-30, 35 rem. 375 Win, and 308 Win. Killed deer with all of them but the 44 is my favorite brush gun.

My 308 is a Savage 99 and is a lot heavier than the Marlins. Not sure what the BLR weighs but that's a consideration if you are carrying it around.
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The 99 is a classic...would love to see them reintroduced
 
#8 ·
In the situation you described, I think I'd rather have a bolt action with the capability of a 10 round extended magazine. Ruger, Savage and multiple custom builders offer a variety of choices on Cooper's concept.

Only scenario I'd prefer the lever would be if I'm primarily urban based and denied semi auto capability. And there I'd want it in 357 Magnum.

Just my $.02.
 
#10 · (Edited)
A funny thing happened to the Scout Rifle on the way to the Forum… It became anything anyone wanted it to be.

So, sure, why not a BLR in .308?

(Btw-here’s my definition of Scout Rifle-"The most dependable centerfire rifle I own, that I can shoot well and carry easily in my environment.”)
 
#11 ·
BLR has couple of downsides. Biggest in my opinion is how complicated the action is. It's so complicated in fact that Browning recommends a certified Browning centers for complete cleaning. In other words - taking it apart for cleaning is next to impossible at home. Trigger is very mediocre and due to the fact that it's being housed in the lever assembly it's impossible to be work on. Bolt action is much more suitable solution in this case, but if lever action is preferred choice - there are better options out there in my opinion.
 
#13 ·
I'd not put the BLR in that category. Too fragile, too heavy, barrel too long for the Scout concept. Furthermore, the sighting system of Irons and optics would be problematic.
 
#15 ·
If you can not build one,

Ruger® Scout Rifle Bolt-Action Rifle Model 6829

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  • MODEL NUMBER: 6829
  • CALIBER: 308 WIN
  • StockBlack Synthetic
  • Model OptionRight-Handed
  • Front SightProtected Blade
  • Rear SightAdjustable
  • Capacity10
  • Thread Pattern5/8"-24

  • Barrel Length 16.10"
  • Overall Length 37" - 38.50"
  • MaterialStainless Steel
  • FinishMatte Stainless
  • Barrel FeatureMuzzle Brake

  • Length Of Pull 12.75" - 14.25"
  • Twist 1:10" RH
  • Weight6.2 lb.
  • Grooves6
  • UPC7-36676-06829-6
  • Suggested Retail$1529.00
I would be happy with an old springfield, mauser or rug 77 action
and go from there, don't have the ruger but do have the others.

Some are already drilled and tapped and ready to go, will not
alter an old action, will put it back to origional, if I live long enough.
 
#16 ·
While the scout rifle is a great idea on paper, they don’t really work out in reality.

A lever action is the worst way to go about that idea for several reasons.

Unless you practice a lot, they’re more likely to bite you, pinch you or get short stroked under pressure than a bolt, and harder to clear a jam.
 
#17 ·
happie2shoot said:
If you can not build one,

Ruger® Scout Rifle Bolt-Action Rifle Model 6829

View attachment 1257943

  • MODEL NUMBER: 6829
  • CALIBER: 308 WIN
  • StockBlack Synthetic
  • Model OptionRight-Handed
  • Front SightProtected Blade
  • Rear SightAdjustable
  • Capacity10
  • Thread Pattern5/8"-24

  • Barrel Length 16.10"
  • Overall Length 37" - 38.50"
  • MaterialStainless Steel
  • FinishMatte Stainless
  • Barrel FeatureMuzzle Brake

  • Length Of Pull 12.75" - 14.25"
  • Twist 1:10" RH
  • Weight6.2 lb.
  • Grooves6
  • UPC7-36676-06829-6
  • Suggested Retail$1529.00
I would be happy with an old springfield, mauser or rug 77 action
and go from there, don't have the ruger but do have the others.

Some are already drilled and tapped and ready to go, will not
alter an old action, will put it back to origional, if I live long enough.
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Don’t leave enfield actions out.
 
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FullClip said:
The 99 is a classic...would love to see them reintroduced
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This was my dad's 99 made in 1903. He bought it used after WWII and hunted with it. It had a pretty long barrel on it so In the 1960s he cut down the barrel and made a new stock for it. Mounted a Weaver 2.5x scope on it which it still wears.

Still killing deer 120 years later. Pretty good scout rifle.

 
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