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It’s worse than I described. You have to get 4 people who’ve known you at least 5 years, no relatives, no one in your household, and they must write an essay attesting to your good character, they must get it notarized, and then you have to meet up with them because they have to also sign your application. The application must be near 15 pages. It goes on and on.
 
Opinions and a-holes, everybody's got one. And in my opinion, you made a fine choice OP.

Also my opinion, but anyone who doesn't have any firearm experience should start out and spend the majority of their time at first with a long gun. Bolt action .22 rifle, for example. Best type of gun with which to learn trigger discipline, muzzle discipline, breathing for long distance shooting, all the fundamentals. But do you have to do that? Nope, just my opinion.
 
It’s worse than I described. You have to get 4 people who’ve known you at least 5 years, no relatives, no one in your household, and they must write an essay attesting to your good character, they must get it notarized, and then you have to meet up with them because they have to also sign your application. The application must be near 15 pages. It goes on and on.
Not to mention that some counties require the references to be county residents, so if you move somewhere new, you’re literally SOL.

Many of these requirements are being challenged in the courts now, but the wheels of justice move very slowly…
 
In NYS you have to take 16 hr classroom followed by 2 hours at range to file for permit. And the course runs from $525-$600. The application fee is $120. The gun store charges $35 a month to store the gun after 6 months. It can take 8 months just to get an appt for fingerprints and handing in the application and then another 4-6 months waiting for a judge to review it. I was able to move the handing in portion by repeatedly calling to see if they had cancellations.

It’s now a waiting game.

I thank you all for the words of encouragement. As I mentioned, I’ve taken multiple classes since December when I sat for the class, shooting from cover, shooting in a dark indoor range with weapon mounted lights, etc. unfortunately I must borrow a gun to take the classes, and they usually give me a small 22. Nothing wrong with that except it has very poor sights on it. They did loan me a 9 when we practiced jams with randomly loaded dummy rounds. Just looking forward to getting the permit and my Glock.

I did take a class, file for and receive my Utah CCW but it doesn’t really do me any good as it’s not honored here and you can’t buy a gun outside your own state, at least here, where it’s not legal to possess without the hard to get permit.
what a racket!!! that sounds like more training than the NYC cops get... .... o_O
 
In NY (suburbs) where I live, you have to buy a gun BEFORE you can submit application for CCW. You can’t take possession. Store holds it until permit is issued. All I was able to do, with the dearth of gun shops around here and few ranges, was go to a store that had a good selection and hold whatever I wanted, after basically doing a lot of research online, and see what fit my hand best. I tried Sig, also Hellcat, and a few others. When I put my hand around the grip of the 43x, it felt like an old friend.
So why do I ask if I made a mistake? Because as a novice, the two instructors of the 18 hr mandatory class I took, along with now five range days with them, including a defensive shotgun course last week, insist (one is retired police sgt, the other ex-military) that a beginner should buy nothing but a minimum 4” barrel. If I’m not mistaken, the 43x is 3”. I did not want a 4” as it just seemed to big to easily conceal and too big to carry with at least a modicum of comfort. They espouse that smaller guns are too hard to learn to shoot well.

I don’t plan on it being my one and only gun, but just wondering.

Opinions are welcome. Ty.
Before too much range time, get an instructor (or look for online videos) to work with you on a good grip/stance and managing recoil. When you've mastered the grip and shooting stance, the 43X is very manageable and accurate.
 
It’s worse than I described. You have to get 4 people who’ve known you at least 5 years, no relatives, no one in your household, and they must write an essay attesting to your good character, they must get it notarized, and then you have to meet up with them because they have to also sign your application. The application must be near 15 pages. It goes on and on.
Good luck,
You have at least 8 months to go practice
 
Dry fire a lot. Learn your trigger. Get to the range and practice.

Honestly the 43 isn't what I'd start most new shooters with. It is a fine weapon and should fill your need very well. Maybe the most important part of a carry gun is that YOU are comfortable carrying it. You did fine.
 
You did fine, you could have went with a G48 which is the same gun with a longer slide/barrel. I had both but shooting at self defense distances I couldn’t tell the difference. The 43X is easier to conceal. I let the 48 go and still have the 43X.
 
In NY (suburbs) where I live, you have to buy a gun BEFORE you can submit application for CCW. You can’t take possession. Store holds it until permit is issued. All I was able to do, with the dearth of gun shops around here and few ranges, was go to a store that had a good selection and hold whatever I wanted, after basically doing a lot of research online, and see what fit my hand best. I tried Sig, also Hellcat, and a few others. When I put my hand around the grip of the 43x, it felt like an old friend.
So why do I ask if I made a mistake? Because as a novice, the two instructors of the 18 hr mandatory class I took, along with now five range days with them, including a defensive shotgun course last week, insist (one is retired police sgt, the other ex-military) that a beginner should buy nothing but a minimum 4” barrel. If I’m not mistaken, the 43x is 3”. I did not want a 4” as it just seemed to big to easily conceal and too big to carry with at least a modicum of comfort. They espouse that smaller guns are too hard to learn to shoot well.

I don’t plan on it being my one and only gun, but just wondering.

Opinions are welcome. Ty.
I teach noobs to shoot the guns they bring to class, minus any editorials, op-eds or gun-shaming. Jimmies, HiPoints, Ravens, Taurus, whatever. You bring it to class, that's the one I teach you to shoot. You are paying for a mandatory class, not a bloviation station. Finish the class, get your certification and take care of business..

No, there isn't anything wrong with a 43X

Good luck with it all.
 
You made a great choice!

As for the NYS requirements to exercise your 2A rights, everyone reading this thread should note that these are the “reasonable and common sense requirements” the friendly gun grabbers in your state want to impose on you.
Yes. And as someone who follows this stuff very closely, it bugs me to no end when people in currently free states say things like "It's your fault for living in a commie state." I got out of New York as fast as I could, but there are job and family considerations that are not always easy.

Not to mention that Virginia should scare people, as it went from being 2/3rds Republican in their house to 51/49 Democrat. Things can change very quickly. Previously solid red states are now blue or bluing, like, in addition to Virginia, Colorado, Arizona (to a degree), New Mexico, Nevada (to a degree), and even Georgia somewhat.

The fact that you're free now doesn't mean you'll always be, so everyone has to be vigilant, as the radical left has shown their hand.
 
Nothing wrong with the 43x at all but I kinda get what they’re saying. Of course learning on a G17 or G19 would be a little easier and you’d probably be a little more accurate but that’s the trade off between bigger or smaller. Personally I consider a G19 size a breeze to conceal and carry it or G30/29/32 90% of time but everyone is different. At some point I wanna get a G43 and G48 so can have 4 configuration options of G43, 43x, 48 and 43L


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