[cowboy1964]

That thread referenced by the OP was from 2018, when the 365 was new.

I had issues with going back into battery when I first got mine. A new RSA solved it and has been 100% since.

 

[LaneP]

Sorry to hear. I have several hundred through mine and will put another 200 through it shortly (next range trip in a couple weeks).

Normally that part doesn't fail for a very long time so I wonder if you got one that slipped through the QC cracks. At the Maxon rental range, they experienced an RSA failure, but it took 50,000 rounds to do it.

Sig Sauer P365 Gun Review | 100,000 Round Torture Test

In this gun review we discuss the two failures we have had in firing over 100,000 rounds through this standard Sig Sauer P365

www.maxonshooters.com

 

[D20]

Just as with my 43X, nicer recoil assemblies than stock can be had (thanks @Rocks). If it were me, I'd just get another stock one, and a nicer aftermarket one, and any other wearable items to tuck away in a baggie for future maintenance.
I hope you like the pistol and it serves you well.

 

[J_Rico]

Is the gun new - any idea when it was manufactured?

I know some of the first P365 sold had this issue - but my understanding it was fixed.

Not 100% on this - but I read someplace -

Look at the end of the RSA that is closest to the muzzle - from the side - the black metal rod that holds the spring.

The new style RSA has 4 "flat spots" on it - where the old RSA the end is totally round.

Which one do you have?
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I was going to say round, but moved to better light and I see the flat places you mention.

 

[J_Rico]

Sorry to hear.

I've got about 2,100 round through three P365s since 2019, no issues with any of the three RSAs.

Hope a new RSA solves the problem and you are back shooting. I've only been on Sigtalk since May 2020, but I've never seen or heard of this particular issue. The thread you linked is from Dec 2018, very odd it happened to you.

What is the born on date of the gun (printed on side of case)?

Jan 2022.

 

[Maccabeus]

No such problem with my P365 or XL over the past several years. Not yet, at least.

 

[SilverBiscuit]

I’ve heard of a couple instances of this but it’s pretty uncommon. I changed my RSA at around 3500 rds, it was still working fine but the manual suggests changing every 2500 so I figured I should.

 

[familyman357]

I had an early Glock 22 Gen 4 where the recoil spring escaped the front of the assembly and jammed up the pistol. This was a known issue at the time. I got a new RSA, replaced it, and it was never an issue again. I sure as heck didn't ditch the pistol for one bad part.

 

[Deputydave]

I wouldn't let it shake your faith in the platform. Here and on ST we've discussed, at length, two different range rental P365's that have at or near 100k rounds on them with minimal maintenance. A bad RSA can and does happen from time to time on many pistols. No issues at all with my X or XL. Same with my son's P365 as well as several buddies that off-duty one of the models.

 

[yep380]

Replace the RSA, fire a few hundreds through it, carry on.

 

[Larry Crockett]

Be lucky it was something minor like this.

Sig has their hands full with lawsuits because of their guns popping of at random. Optics to issues M18’s are flying off, officers are getting shot in the legs with their holstered, untouched Sigs.

Unfortunately, it’s become on-brand for their pistols to have serious issues, so changing an RSA isn’t that bad in the broader scheme. Stay safe.

 

[Deputydave]

officers are getting shot in the legs with their holstered, untouched Sigs.

Those were the alleged stories, however, agency investigations in the one's I'm familiar with are showing user error and not a design error.

 

[Glocnich33]

I've had my 365 almost 2 years and zero issues. It goes where I go. I'm not somebody that tracks my round count but I'd say I have 400 or 500 through it.

 

[Larry Crockett]

Those were the alleged stories, however, agency investigations in the one's I'm familiar with are showing user error and not a design error.

Exactly how many are you familiar with? There are dozens, all following the same general pattern - holstered/untouched pistol spontaneously fires without user input.

You don’t have to be Sherlock Holmes to see there is a serious issue with many of Sig’s pistols, all following a similar pattern from civilians, service members & veterans and police.

Saying otherwise is being willfully ignorant of the facts at best or blinded by bias.

https://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2022-06-14/sig-sauer-is-sued-over-pistol-critics-say-goes-off-by-itself

Sig Sauer Faces $10 Million Lawsuit over P320 Pistol After Alleged Accidental Discharge Wounds Federal Agent | Military.com

www.military.com

Tampa police officer sues Sig Sauer alleging weapon fired by itself, causing serious injuries

The I-Team has learned there have been dozens of other reported incidents in the past five years of that model handgun firing without anyone pulling the trigger.

www.abcactionnews.com

Sig Sauer Refuses to Recall Its P320 Handgun

If you or someone you love is injured because of a product liability case during this global crisis, or at any time, The Stoddard Firm can help.

thestoddardfirm.com

MPD requested Sig Sauer install missing gun part days after first accidental shooting, emails show

"I am going to therefore assume that the remaining Sig Sauer P320 Milwaukee Police Department inventory is also missing that part," MPD captain wrote.

www.wisn.com

We have an old saying where I come from - Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.

“wELL miNe WorKs GoOd” isn’t an argument. There were/are plenty of folks who drove cars with safety recalls who weren’t/aren’t impacted by them. Imagine telling someone who was grievously injured by a Sig going off on its own that ‘mine works gud, sooo...’

 

[Deputydave]

Exactly how many are you familiar with?

As an instructor in the LE community, as well as my involvement with discussion on Sigs in general, more than a dozen. One of which was in the county in which I live (Pasco). Initial reports were the pistol went off in the holster by itself (P320). Investigation revealed the Officer was fiddling with the pistol/holster. In the county I moved from earlier this year (Hillsborough) that has been widely discussed. As is the case of the female LEO having her duty pistol 'go off' in her purse. To date I am aware of no law suits in which Sig lost. They have either settled before discovery, the case was withdrawn after investigation or they have won.

There are dozens, all following the same general pattern - holstered/untouched pistol spontaneously fires without user input.

Again, while the initial report is always the fault of the pistol, investigations seem to indicate the initial reports were CYA. Considering that 1/3 of LE on the Federal level have had unintentional discharges at least once in their career would indicate it happens with alarming frequency and it is operator error, not the fault of the pistol/rifle used. Always best to wait for the conclusion of the investigation rather than jumping to a conclusion based on incomplete information.

You don’t have to be Sherlock Holmes to see there is a serious issue with many of Sig’s pistols, all following a similar pattern from civilians, service members & veterans and police.

Well, the P320 did have the triggers replaced. While I didn't particularly care for how they resolved the issue it is ancient history. The P365 had some firing pin issues in the early runs but those were few and far between and again, has since been resolved. Actually, they've had less issues than Glock with the G19, G22/23 and G43.

Saying otherwise is being willfully ignorant of the facts at best or blinded by bias.

I'm going to suggest you be careful with that type of statement. It isn't either. I have no bias for any particular manufacturer.

“wELL miNe WorKs GoOd” isn’t an argument.

Who said it was? I'm basing my opinion on what I've been briefed on or what I've read after the investigations and/or court cases have been completed/resolved.

 

[D20]

Those were the alleged stories, however, agency investigations in the one's I'm familiar with are showing user error and not a design error.

Any specifics on the user error? I'm wondering what a person might do to cause the incident--and not notice--to think the gun accidentally went off.

 

[Deputydave]

Any specifics on the user error? I'm wondering what a person might do to cause the incident--and not notice--to think the gun accidentally went off.

In several of the the individual either admitted to fault or it was determined after investigation. For example, the one I mentioned above in the county I now live it;

Pasco County SRO Fired After Discharging Gun in School Cafeteria

 

[Larry Crockett]

Sounds great, we’ll use your anecdotal experience to attribute dozens & dozens of incidents nationwide to a conspiracy of users having negligent discharges and putting the blame on poor Sig, who then denies it or pays out before court, having had no liability in any of them. I like it, let’s go with it.

Regardless, the OP has to change a faulty RSA which isn’t ideal, but my point initially being - it’s a small hiccup that is probably even covered by warranty and isn’t a major issue. I’ve said my peace and others can make up their own minds without further input from me - feel free to have the last word.

 

[Deputydave]

Sounds great, we’ll use your anecdotal experience

Anecdotal? Perhaps you missed the link I posted to the article on the incident I mentioned in my above post? The SRO was fired for the negligent discharge. It wasn't the fault of the pistol. It's also fact that there are studies, linked to multiple times on this board, that show the number of unintentional/negligent discharges in LE. Those are simply the facts.

to attribute dozens & dozens of incidents nationwide

There is something called the presumption of innocence in this country. A news article on someone claiming the pistol just 'went off by itself' isn't proof one way or the other. That's why it's best to wait for all the facts to be investigated before drawing a conclusion. The link I posted above is just one example.

on poor Sig, who then denies it or pays out before court, having had no liability in any of them.

Again, I am unaware of Sig losing a law suit in regards to the P320 going off all by itself. I am aware of investigations revealing the person making specific claims lied. I am aware of cases being dismissed. I am aware of Sig winning. And I'm also aware of Sig settling before discovery. And while one can speculate as to why, it is only speculation. There are many reasons why a company would settle and it's often a financial decision rather than one of guilt. But again, if the actual facts of a specific case are unknown any speculation is without evidence.

Regardless, the OP has to change a faulty RSA which isn’t ideal

No, it's not ideal. But it happens. It wasn't ideal for G19 slides to fly off the frames during live fire. It wasn't ideal for G22's to have issues with WML, some of which occurred during OIS. And the list goes on and can be said for pretty much any manufacture, except HK because they're perfect and any issues are solely user error

The larger picture is that firearms are machines and machines are made by people and occasionally have an issue. Sometimes it's a wide spread issue that is corrected in time. Sometimes it's a one-off.

 

[rds95991]

Must be taking lessons from Glock. My last three new Glocks all failed due to bad recoil spring assemblies (RSA's). Fortunately, it was close to times where there were GSSF matches I was participating in and the Glocksmiths at the matches replaced the RSA's.