[Diabloman]

I don't like sigs. Long creepy trigger.......jmho/fwiw

 

[italianstallion]

Then you are one of the few. The G42 is almost universally known as the soft shooting 380ACP, even by fanboys of other brands. Even at Sig Talk, most are not pleased with the 380 version. There is really nothing wrong with it, just not enough difference between the 9mm version and 380 version to justify switching. We were all hoping for a softer shooting 380, like the G42, and in reality we didn’t. I went back to my 9mm version of the P365.

You “explanation” doesn’t make sense as the rails do not “dissipate the forces,” of the recoil. It’s pistols are Browning drop breach designed, so the action of dropping the barrel as the slide comes back dissipates most of the recoil of the lower powered 380ACP round. Rails do nothing but hold the slide to the frame and guide it rearward. If you are saying that the flexing of the Glock frame, the movement of the RSA and polymer guide rod waving up and down isn’t moving like that because they are not “soaking up” recoil energy; then what makes them move like that? It’s not fairies. All of that movement is caused by the energy of the recoil of the fired round and that recoil energy is being used up by those movements. Then that means lesser recoil rearward.

I guess I am one of the few, one of the single few that agrees the P365 either 9 or .380 has less recoil than the G42/G43. I guess the OP is also one of the single few that thinks the Sigs recoil less than their Glock counterparts. He must be imagining stuff as well.

My explanation makes perfect sense. Any material (whether polymer or metal) mated or adjacent to the firing parts of the gun absorbs recoil forces, which is then transmitted to the shooters hand and then upper torso.Take a P365 and a G43 in the same calibers, you’ll notice one is heavier than the other, the 365. The Sig slide is much heavier, the FCU alone weighs more than the entire Glock frame and the Sig guide rod is full metal, as well as the Sig metal magazine. It’s physics. The added weight (from more steel or heavier steel components) soaks up recoil better. Sometimes extremes make good examples, take a 1911 in 9mm and a G17, do a poll of a hundred people and I think you will have a clear idea of which gun recoils less as perceived by the shooter.

 

[PTSdog]

I guess I am one of the few, one of the single few that agrees the P365 either 9 or .380 has less recoil than the G42/G43. I guess the OP is also one of the single few that thinks the Sigs recoil less than their Glock counterparts. He must be imagining stuff as well.

My explanation makes perfect sense. Any material (whether polymer or metal) mated or adjacent to the firing parts of the gun absorbs recoil forces, which is then transmitted to the shooters hand and then upper torso.Take a P365 and a G43 in the same calibers, you’ll notice one is heavier than the other, the 365. The Sig slide is much heavier, the FCU alone weighs more than the entire Glock frame and the Sig guide rod is full metal, as well as the Sig metal magazine. It’s physics. The added weight (from more steel or heavier steel components) soaks up recoil better. Sometimes extremes make good examples, take a 1911 in 9mm and a G17, do a poll of a hundred people and I think you will have a clear idea of which gun recoils less as perceived by the shooter.

Cool. Glad you have a love for Sigs, but I think you are lumping ALL of Sigs into a neat little pile of perfection due to personal bias. I don’t think you understand what certain parts of the pistol do or don’t do, but that doesn’t matter. This thread is about recoil difference between the G42 and the Sig 358 OR 380. And the majority of the shooter’s that owned both seem to favor the G42, on several internet boards, as the softer shooter. You don’t, no problem.

 

[James Dean]

IMO the G42 is a very comfortable gun to shoot. I sold my G43 and bought a P365 in 9MM. I really didn't care for the G43's felt recoil. If I had a choice today I would go with the Sig in .380 over the G42 just because of mag capacity. The P365 shoots 9mm very well. I bet in .380 it would be even better.

 

[italianstallion]

Cool. Glad you have a love for Sigs, but I think you are lumping ALL of Sigs into a neat little pile of perfection due to personal bias. I don’t think you understand what certain parts of the pistol do or don’t do, but that doesn’t matter. This thread is about recoil difference between the G42 and the Sig 358 OR 380. And the majority of the shooter’s that owned both seem to favor the G42, on several internet boards, as the softer shooter. You don’t, no problem.

I love my Glocks, Sigs, and H&Ks, not sure why you are lumping me into a Sig or nothing fanboy. I'll settle for your biases and assumptions as no one can change that but God bless.

 

[Rocks]

IMO the G42 is a very comfortable gun to shoot. I sold my G43 and bought a P365 in 9MM. I really didn't care for the G43's felt recoil. If I had a choice today I would go with the Sig in .380 over the G42 just because of mag capacity. The P365 shoots 9mm very well. I bet in .380 it would be even better.

I have both and find the Sig 380 has less recoil than the G42. I also have both the P365 9mm and Glock 43 and the same goes with the Sig P365 9mm and G43. Not a Sig fanboy. I have 6 Glock models and still not a fanboy of any brand. I'll buy any brand if I like the pistol. Hell, I'm anxiously waiting for the HK Micro 9 and the Glock 43 will probably go bye-bye.

 

[MeatGrinder]

G42 recoil?? A little girl can handle a G42.
I don't care about the Sig.
My new G42 is reliable and very accurate.

 

[Rocks]

I love my Glocks, Sigs, and H&Ks, not sure why you are lumping me into a Sig or nothing fanboy. I'll settle for your biases and assumptions as no one can change that but God bless.

It's a Glock forum and the bias is like any other product forum.

 

[James Dean]

I have both and find the Sig 380 has less recoil than the G42. I also have both the P365 9mm and Glock 43 and the same goes with the Sig P365 9mm and G43. Not a Sig fanboy. I have 6 Glock models and still not a fanboy of any brand. I'll buy any brand if I like the pistol. Hell, I'm anxiously waiting for the HK Micro 9.

+1 on the HK micro.

 

[GlockyQ]

I own both P365 and G43. (I do not own P365 in .380.)
When shooting the same ammo through the two pistols, I definitely feel that the P365 kicks harder with more muzzle flip than the G43 does. Note that I have done this comparison a few times by changing the order in which I shoot them, so I can at least reduce possible “testing effects”…. But whether I shoot the G43 first or the P365 first, I perception has been consistent.

Of course, because I have no means to objectively measure the physical recoil that each of the two pistols gives when firing the same ammo, I am solely basing this “felt-recpoil” comparison between the two pistols on “how I as the same shooter feel the recoil” from each of the pistols….

Some may argue that I am probably psychologically biased in favor of the G43. (Yeah, I think I probably am.🤣)
I am also kinetically far more used to the specific kind of “felt recoil” that the G43 gives me simply because I have fired significantly more rounds through the G43 than the P365. This “kinetic familiarity” may be affecting my perception of the “felt-recoil” from the two pistols, as well. I would not dismiss such possibilities, either...
It is just that TO ME the P365 kicks more than the G43!🤣 🤣

 

[PTSdog]

I love my Glocks, Sigs, and H&Ks, not sure why you are lumping me into a Sig or nothing fanboy. I'll settle for your biases and assumptions as no one can change that but God bless.

Same here, Hail Satan.

 

[PTSdog]

I own both P365 and G43. (I do not own P365 in .380.)
When shooting the same ammo through the two pistols, I definitely feel that the P365 kicks harder with more muzzle flip than the G43 does. Note that I have done this comparison a few times by changing the order in which I shoot them, so I can at least reduce possible “testing effects”…. But whether I shoot the G43 first or the P365 first, I perception has been consistent.

Of course, because I have no means to objectively measure the physical recoil that each of the two pistols gives when firing the same ammo, I am solely basing this “felt-recpoil” comparison between the two pistols on “how I as the same shooter feel the recoil” from each of the pistols….

Some may argue that I am probably psychologically biased in favor of the G43. (Yeah, I think I probably am.🤣)
I am also kinetically far more used to the specific kind of “felt recoil” that the G43 gives me simply because I have fired significantly more rounds through the G43 than the P365. This “kinetic familiarity” may be affecting my perception of the “felt-recoil” from the two pistols, as well. I would not dismiss such possibilities, either...
It is just that TO ME the P365 kicks more than the G43!🤣 🤣

I had a first run P365 in 2018. Before it broke, I had shot it against my other two EDC options at the time, G43 and G26. The P365 was right in between the two as far as felt recoil and my split times. I remember shooting the G43 for time on a target with 1-6 shakes on it and being impressed. Picked up the P365, which I had about 1000 rounds through at the time, felt recoil was much lesser and my times was faster. Then, for giggles, I shot the G26 and it blew the other two away as far as being the softer shooter and times. LOL I was so mad.

Last week, even with damaged hands, I shot the G43, G42, and both P365s(380 and 9). Just double taps on plate sized targets, three targets total. The G43 was actually on par with the P365 9mm! And do credit those results to the GEEPlate I use with the G43.

I swear next week, the results will be just the opposite! LOL

 

[GlockyQ]

I had a first run P365 in 2018. Before it broke, I had shot it against my other two EDC options at the time, G43 and G26. The P365 was right in between the two as far as felt recoil and my split times. I remember shooting the G43 for time on a target with 1-6 shakes on it and being impressed. Picked up the P365, which I had about 1000 rounds through at the time, felt recoil was much lesser and my times was faster. Then, for giggles, I shot the G26 and it blew the other two away as far as being the softer shooter and times. LOL I was so mad.

Last week, even with damaged hands, I shot the G43, G42, and both P365s(380 and 9). Just double taps on plate sized targets, three targets total. The G43 was actually on par with the P365 9mm! And do credit those results to the GEEPlate I use with the G43.

I swear next week, the results will be just the opposite! LOL

My P365 has been very reliable, though I have only fired about 1,700 rounds through it. It has not fallen apart yet.

I also own a G26 and it recoils much less than the P365 or the G43. Perhaps that’s due to the sheer weight of the G26 especially when fully loaded, which I believe to be the most plausible “objective” explanation as to why it kicks less than the two micros.

Anyhow, I am using the DPM recoil reduction system in my P365 as well as in my G43. The DPM system seems to be helping to ease the felt recoil and muzzle jump, especially when firing +P ammo (which I carry in my 9mm pistols).
Of course, some will always argue that is because of the “placebo effect”! 🤣 Sure, I would not dismiss the possibility, either.

However, the bottomline is that since I started using the DPM system in my micro 9mms, I no longer need Aleve for my wrist arthritis even though I still shoot 150 rounds of 9mm weekly.

 

[Rocks]

Yes, I believe the P365 380 has less recoil than the G42 (both hardly any) and has 4-6 more rounds but my wife carries the P365 Her leave in the vehicle pistol is the LCP Max. If I'm carrying a 380, it's the G42. I just like it.
I'm not a fan of the LCP Max. I sold it to a relative and that person *****ed about it. I got tired of hearing it so I bought it back.

 

[zaitcev]

I've also shot the G42 against the new 365 in .380...... same result, Sig feels milder recoiling and recovery time is faster.
It's not hard to understand, look at the 4 small frame rails on a Glock plus ....

I'm not convinced at all. I suspect the real difference is the shape of the grip on the SIG. It's fatter and easier to crank on for recoil control and better splits.

 

[zaitcev]

+1 on the HK micro.

I'd prefer HK to roll the 380, and not just because heads would explode all over. I know they won't, but it would be pretty sweet. I could even move on from G42, depending on the results of trials.

 

[Phatso]

I absolutely love my 365/380. The 12 round mags make a perfect purchase of the grip. My first shot with the new gun was dead center forehead at 10 yards with fmj. It only got better
At the end of my first range day I was easily doing one hole drills at 10 yards. 380 is a fine cartridge and I’d rather have shot placement in the proper areas rather than a 45 hole in the belly.
I own and carry many glocks and the 42 was my BuG for years. I probably have 4000 rounds through it. So many I needed to change the spring out in the firing pin. I shoot the 42 great I love it (after sending it back to Glock to get it running it was an initial batch) and I love it. I won’t sell it.
but I’m carrying my 366/380 12+1 and 12 backup with underwood extreme defenders. I don’t feel undergunned

 

[DaBurna]

I sold my G42 picked up a 365 .380…. Couldn’t be happier!! More capacity, softer shooter, & better trigger!!

 

[Angelo Ferrera]

I'd prefer HK to roll the 380, and not just because heads would explode all over. I know they won't, but it would be pretty sweet. I could even move on from G42, depending on the results of trials.

I wish Beretta would bring back their 84BB Cheetah.

 

[Out West]

I've been planning to purchase the 365/380. Mostly based on YouTube reviews that proclaimed it to be a soft shooter. This thread has got me confused. As far as I can tell from this thread opinions are split on which 380 has the greater recoil - G42 or 365/380.

I'm not considering the G42. So, with regard to the Sig 380, does it have less recoil than the Sig 365 in 9mm?

Or, maybe I'll just forget about getting the Sig and stick with the LCP MAX I already own.