[vindibona1]

I'd put up a thread about the Ghost Pro connector but nobody replied so I was pretty much on my own and thought my experience was worth posting for others who might be curious. I'd tried the Ghost Edge connector in my 43x and really did NOT find an advantage to it over the OEM connector. Not really a lighter trigger pull and what it really did was create a rolling break vs the OEM glass-like break. After contacting GhostInc, Ghost was kind enough to offer me an upgrade to their Ghost Pro to try. I followed their instructions and they sent me the Ghost Pro.

I wasn't quite sure what the Ghost Pro would actually do, and was a little fearful of the adjustments that are needed for it to function properly. But after some wrangling and a few cycles of filing testing filing testing with a diamond file I got it to work as advertised.

It seemed to take a bit more filing than I expected. The extra protrusion started to get thinner than I thought normal so called them and they assured me that it wasn't weight bearing and was ok to keep going. After I think the third cycle the 43x did release the striker and I knew I was close. One more disassembly/reassembly/filing cycle and it was right there functioning as advertised.

For me there is some good things and some questionable things. Can the questionable things be fixed? I'm not sure but I'll see, maybe tomorrow. With the Ghost Pro installed, the takeup seems elongated and I have to pull through the "roll". So there is a mushiness there until just before the break when an actual wall appears. Once you break through that wall there is zero overtravel. No issues getting the striker to release and fire. So the actual break is very much like S/A, but you have to pull through a lot of mush to get there.

Can this excess take-up and sponginess be overcome with a trigger that reduces pre-travel? I'm not sure. But I have a Johnny Glock smooth enhanced OEM trigger on order that should arrive tomorrow.

Do I think I'll prefer the Ghost Pro or the OEM connector? I'm not sure yet. I did prefer the stock OEM connector over the Ghost Edge. I'll want to put a bunch of rounds through the 43x before coming to a conclusion on the Ghost Pro connector.

Just though I'd share. [What else is there to do during COVID sequestration?] Thanks for taking the time to read this.

 

[vindibona1]

Update:

I've gone back and forth with the Ghost Pro Connector and the OEM connector (43x), and while the Ghost Pro does eliminate a bit of overtravel, for me i think it does so at a cost. It has a pretty wide "rolling break", in my estimation noticeably more than the Ghost Edge. Kind of feels like a combination of creaking and mush. I've been testing the Johnny Glock $22 trigger shoe and with the OEM connector the takeup is short and and the break is crisp and light.

 

[vindibona1]

Hopefully last update (almost a month later):
I've since traded my Johnny Glock $22 trigger shoe for the Johnny Glock flat face shoe. I've had the opportunity since to also try a Taran Tactical connector. Tackling that first because there are few reviews on the Taran connector, it is very much like the OEM connector for the 43x, except I think it has a slightly crisper/quicker reset.

What I discovered is that the amount of pre-travel in the shoe greatly affects the response and feel of the connector, which also greatly contribute to the amount of poundage required to for the striker to break. I believe that the less pre-travel in the shoe the lighter the pull is on any given connector.

The Johnny Glock $22 shoe with the Ghost Pro connector, with the shoe greatly reducing (after adjustment) the pre travel and the Ghost Pro limiting the overtravel, created a 1911 like situation with extremely limited trigger movement on fire and reset and an extremely light 3 pound pull (with 4.5 pound striker spring). This setup seemed unacceptable for carry and didn't really improve my range accuracy. What I did not think to try was putting a heavier striker spring in to see how that would change my opinion.

I've since put in a Johnny Glock flat face shoe, which has a reduced pre-travel, but longer my $22 shoe. With the Ghost Pro connector the pull after takeup is very smooth, but not "squishy" with no real wall. what I've now noticed with the flat face shoe and Ghost Pro connector is that one I feel tension after the takeup the amount of pressure pulling through the trigger stroke is constant until the striker breaks, whereas with the connectors that have more of a "glass-rod" break require increasing the pressure until the striker finally does break. I think for me, working on developing a smoother trigger pull I like the constant pressure which I believe reduces jerking. FWIW, with this shoe/connector combo the trigger pull again dropped to about 3.25 pounds with the 4.5 pound striker spring. I have since gone up a notch to the 5 pound spring and also have tried the setup with the OEM spring. The 5 pounder seems to be the best middle ground at this point.

 

[Bunnies4r5]

Hopefully last update (almost a month later):
I've since traded my Johnny Glock $22 trigger shoe for the Johnny Glock flat face shoe. I've had the opportunity since to also try a Taran Tactical connector. Tackling that first because there are few reviews on the Taran connector, it is very much like the OEM connector for the 43x, except I think it has a slightly crisper/quicker reset.

What I discovered is that the amount of pre-travel in the shoe greatly affects the response and feel of the connector, which also greatly contribute to the amount of poundage required to for the striker to break. I believe that the less pre-travel in the shoe the lighter the pull is on any given connector.

The Johnny Glock $22 shoe with the Ghost Pro connector, with the shoe greatly reducing (after adjustment) the pre travel and the Ghost Pro limiting the overtravel, created a 1911 like situation with extremely limited trigger movement on fire and reset and an extremely light 3 pound pull (with 4.5 pound striker spring). This setup seemed unacceptable for carry and didn't really improve my range accuracy. What I did not think to try was putting a heavier striker spring in to see how that would change my opinion.

I've since put in a Johnny Glock flat face shoe, which has a reduced pre-travel, but longer my $22 shoe. With the Ghost Pro connector the pull after takeup is very smooth, but not "squishy" with no real wall. what I've now noticed with the flat face shoe and Ghost Pro connector is that one I feel tension after the takeup the amount of pressure pulling through the trigger stroke is constant until the striker breaks, whereas with the connectors that have more of a "glass-rod" break require increasing the pressure until the striker finally does break. I think for me, working on developing a smoother trigger pull I like the constant pressure which I believe reduces jerking. FWIW, with this shoe/connector combo the trigger pull again dropped to about 3.25 pounds with the 4.5 pound striker spring. I have since gone up a notch to the 5 pound spring and also have tried the setup with the OEM spring. The 5 pounder seems to be the best middle ground at this point.

I have the johnny glock flat face shoe with his combat trigger system in my 43x and love it. One thing you'll want to check is to make sure that if you reduce the over travel from where he has it set that your firing pin completely clears the firing pin safety. I had the 5lb striker spring in mine which was working great. I then decided to reduce my over travel some and started having light strikes. I contacted Johnny about the issue and he recommended going back to before my adjustment or somewhere in between. I don't know for sure that the pin wasn't clearing and I didn't seem to have any extra wear but the overtravel was the only variable between no light strikes and light strikes. I only checked the clearance after adding a bit more over travel and returning to the 5.5lb so I don't know for sure that there was a clearance issue but it is what I suspected.

The 5.5lb spring with his system feels great so I no longer feel the need to use the 5lb spring. As it's my edc, I don't need it to have a hair trigger and it feels very smooth and crisp with a glass rod break with the 5.5lb, I don't find myself jerking my sights off target at all with this set up and I'm not having any strike issues so I'm just keeping it like this. I run the 5lb spring with the same trigger set up in my 19 and it works great though so maybe once my 43x is broken in more and loosens up a but the 5lb spring will work well but I just don't even feel it necessary anymore.

Don't know if you'll find this helpful or not but figured it may be useful for your experimenting. At the end of the day it may have also just been coincidence that I had light strikes after the overtravel adjustment because it was a brand new 43x and when I checked my channel there was a little carbon build up but nothing crazy so with the tighter tolerances of a new gun that may have been the issue. I really love the way I have it set up now so I am gonna leave it be, hopefully you'll be able to find what works for you, just make sure you test the gun with live rounds and verify that it sets off all primers without an issue if it's your carry.

Happy testing!!

 

[vindibona1]

I have the johnny glock flat face shoe with his combat trigger system in my 43x and love it. One thing you'll want to check is to make sure that if you reduce the over travel from where he has it set that your firing pin completely clears the firing pin safety. I had the 5lb striker spring in mine which was working great. I then decided to reduce my over travel some and started having light strikes. I contacted Johnny about the issue and he recommended going back to before my adjustment or somewhere in between. I don't know for sure that the pin wasn't clearing and I didn't seem to have any extra wear but the overtravel was the only variable between no light strikes and light strikes. I only checked the clearance after adding a bit more over travel and returning to the 5.5lb so I don't know for sure that there was a clearance issue but it is what I suspected.

The 5.5lb spring with his system feels great so I no longer feel the need to use the 5lb spring. As it's my edc, I don't need it to have a hair trigger and it feels very smooth and crisp with a glass rod break with the 5.5lb, I don't find myself jerking my sights off target at all with this set up and I'm not having any strike issues so I'm just keeping it like this. I run the 5lb spring with the same trigger set up in my 19 and it works great though so maybe once my 43x is broken in more and loosens up a but the 5lb spring will work well but I just don't even feel it necessary anymore.

Don't know if you'll find this helpful or not but figured it may be useful for your experimenting. At the end of the day it may have also just been coincidence that I had light strikes after the overtravel adjustment because it was a brand new 43x and when I checked my channel there was a little carbon build up but nothing crazy so with the tighter tolerances of a new gun that may have been the issue. I really love the way I have it set up now so I am gonna leave it be, hopefully you'll be able to find what works for you, just make sure you test the gun with live rounds and verify that it sets off all primers without an issue if it's your carry.

Happy testing!!

I always find information like that interesting and useful. I did try the OEM spring with the flat face shoe and Ghost Pro connector. I thought for my personal shooting taste, while acceptable was just a little heavy. The 5 pound spring was the best option with this setup.

I've actually been working with Johnny to develop a new set of instructions for setting the flat face trigger. The set screw when screwed in, presses on the trigger bar restritcing how far the shoe can go back after the break. Obviously adjusted too aggressively would prevent firing. And I don't think much over-travel has to be taken out as there isn't much there without adjustment. Are you sure that it's the excess reduction in OVER-TRAVEL that might cause light primer strikes? I'm not sure if it's related to the over-travel, I have to wonder how much Johnny's trigger bar contributes to any malfunction as his reshaping of the extension on the trigger bar makes contact with the plunger later, allowing for the pre-travel reductions in his flat face shoe and the adjustment in his $22 OEM shoe? So far I only have the standard OEM trigger bar, but will be receiving another shoe with the JG modified trigger bar. The image below shows Johnny's recommended setting and how to measure for it. I have the set screw turned in almost another 1/2 turn and I haven't experienced any light strikes with the 4.5 pound striker spring.

Even though I posted my last update less than 12 hours ago, I just received a Taran Tactical connector yesterday. I find it very similar to the OEM connector, with a slightly different feel, and I think slightly better. Probably making no difference in trigger pull between those two connectors. . Up until this afternoon I thought I'd run with the Ghost Pro connector which had a smooth but long pull at about 3.5 pounds with the 5 pound spring. The Taran connector with a 4.5 pound spring brings the trigger pull up to a hair over 4 pounds with a crisper break. While I haven't put any rounds downrange for over a week due to a medical procedure, I have a dry fire/laser reference for comparison. After 200 dry fire cycles with each connector/spring combination, to my surprise my laser groups were tighter with the Taran connector and the 4.5 pound spring with the 4 pound pull. Though of course recoil adds a whole 'nother dimension to the mechanics and accuracy can't imagine how the basics of staying on target through the trigger pull wouldn't transfer to live fire? My next trip to the range will probably be next Wednesday.

BTW... Johnny Glock posted an extremely interesting video last Friday on connectors. This is a must watch for anyone wanting to know more about them which might help in a purchase. Johnny Glocks Connector video

 

[Bunnies4r5]

I always find information like that interesting and useful. I did try the OEM spring with the flat face shoe and Ghost Pro connector. I thought for my personal shooting taste, while acceptable was just a little heavy. The 5 pound spring was the best option with this setup.

I've actually been working with Johnny to develop a new set of instructions for setting the flat face trigger. The set screw when screwed in, presses on the trigger bar restritcing how far the shoe can go back after the break. Obviously adjusted too aggressively would prevent firing. And I don't think much over-travel has to be taken out as there isn't much there without adjustment. Are you sure that it's the excess reduction in OVER-TRAVEL that might cause light primer strikes? I'm not sure if it's related to the over-travel, I have to wonder how much Johnny's trigger bar contributes to any malfunction as his reshaping of the extension on the trigger bar makes contact with the plunger later, allowing for the pre-travel reductions in his flat face shoe and the adjustment in his $22 OEM shoe? So far I only have the standard OEM trigger bar, but will be receiving another shoe with the JG modified trigger bar. The image below shows Johnny's recommended setting and how to measure for it. I have the set screw turned in almost another 1/2 turn and I haven't experienced any light strikes with the 4.5 pound striker spring.

Even though I posted my last update less than 12 hours ago, I just received a Taran Tactical connector yesterday. I find it very similar to the OEM connector, with a slightly different feel, and I think slightly better. Probably making no difference in trigger pull between those two connectors. . Up until this afternoon I thought I'd run with the Ghost Pro connector which had a smooth but long pull at about 3.5 pounds with the 5 pound spring. The Taran connector with a 4.5 pound spring brings the trigger pull up to a hair over 4 pounds with a crisper break. While I haven't put any rounds downrange for over a week due to a medical procedure, I have a dry fire/laser reference for comparison. After 200 dry fire cycles with each connector/spring combination, to my surprise my laser groups were tighter with the Taran connector and the 4.5 pound spring with the 4 pound pull. Though of course recoil adds a whole 'nother dimension to the mechanics and accuracy can't imagine how the basics of staying on target through the trigger pull wouldn't transfer to live fire? My next trip to the range will probably be next Wednesday.

BTW... Johnny Glock posted an extremely interesting video last Friday on connectors. This is a must watch for anyone wanting to know more about them which might help in a purchase. Johnny Glocks Connector video

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I am positive it isn't his mods to the trigger bar. I checked the clearance of the safety plunger after adding back in a little over travel and the plunger was completely out of view and out of the way. I should have checked it before I added a bit of over travel back in but I was overzealous on getting the issue solved that I forgot to do it. And when I say a bit of overtravel I do just mean a bit. My 43x still has very little over travel when compared to oem. It was either the over travel or carbon build up or both. I have the same setup in my glock 19 with the 5lb spring and it also passes all safety and clearance checks and never light strikes.

Either way my 43x mos has not had a single failure with the 5.5lb spring and his system. I have grown to really love my 43x trigger with his setup. Johnny is a great guy, when I was new to glocks he really helped me get acquainted with the platform. Id be intrested to see if the 5lb spring works well for me now that I have the overtravel set where I want and know it's chamber is clean and broken in. Since it's my carry gun I don't want a little bit of carbon to be the difference between life and death so I'm sticking with the 5.5lb regardless. On the 43x with flat face shoe and his bar mods there is so little pretravel that I feel better having a little bit heavier trigger anyway.

 

[vindibona1]

...Either way my 43x mos has not had a single failure with the 5.5lb spring and his system. I have grown to really love my 43x trigger with his setup. Johnny is a great guy, when I was new to glocks he really helped me get acquainted with the platform. Id be intrested to see if the 5lb spring works well for me now that I have the overtravel set where I want and know it's chamber is clean and broken in. Since it's my carry gun I don't want a little bit of carbon to be the difference between life and death so I'm sticking with the 5.5lb regardless. On the 43x with flat face shoe and his bar mods there is so little pretravel that I feel better having a little bit heavier trigger anyway.

The caliper in the photo in my previous reply indicates how Johnny measures for his standard over travel preset. Are you able to measure what you're is set at? I was curious as to how my overtravel was set so I took it apart and measured it moments ago. Not far off from Johnny's starting preset of 0.42". I'd be curious to know how your overtravel is now set. Are you able to measure and share? I've had some experience with over travel having had to adjust the Ghost Pro for that. What I learned was too little over travel and the cruciform simply won't release the striker. I'm still not sure how the over travel would necessarily relate to light strikes?

 

[Bunnies4r5]

The caliper in the photo in my previous reply indicates how Johnny measures for his standard over travel preset. Are you able to measure what you're is set at? I was curious as to how my overtravel was set so I took it apart and measured it moments ago. Not far off from Johnny's starting preset of 0.42". I'd be curious to know how your overtravel is now set. Are you able to measure and share? I've had some experience with over travel having had to adjust the Ghost Pro for that. What I learned was too little over travel and the cruciform simply won't release the striker. I'm still not sure how the over travel would necessarily relate to light strikes?


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Yea I knew too little overtravel would lead to the cruciform not dropping. If I remember when I get home from work I'll check it for you. There isn't much on my 43x when I was having some issues it was when the reset was basically instant the second you let off the trigger on the 43x, with a couple mm of movement before reset its good to go. My 19 is set pretty similar to my 43x both of them will reset very quickly. I shoot my 19 in competition and it feels amazing.

 

[glocker1]

Your OEM trigger was never broke, stop trying to fix it.
Stay away from all that aftermarket trigger gobbledygook.
Save your money and just shoot your gun, it will sweeten up with each shot

 

[Bunnies4r5]

Your OEM trigger was never broke, stop trying to fix it.
Stay away from all that aftermarket trigger gobbledygook.
Save your money and just shoot your gun, it will sweeten up with each shot

Don't think he ever said it was broke?? Fixing and improving are 2 different things. An oem glock trigger is never going to feel as good as a metal flat face Johnny glock trigger, no matter how much you shoot it. I am not saying you can't shoot an oem trigger as well as I can shoot an aftermarket one, but I am saying an oem trigger will never feel as good as the above mentioned trigger, especially not on the 43x.

Upgrades aren't for everyone, but just because they aren't for you doesn't mean they aren't for the op or I.

 

[vindibona1]

Your OEM trigger was never broke, stop trying to fix it.
Stay away from all that aftermarket trigger gobbledygook.
Save your money and just shoot your gun, it will sweeten up with each shot

It should be obvious that there is a difference between trying to "fix" something and trying to IMPROVE something particularly in regard to the human interface. Let's face it, Glock doesn't make the most refined parts and almost everything in the lower can stand to be improved. The one and only thing that you can stay about a bone stock OEM Glock is that it will go bang every time you pull the trigger, whether it be in the mud, rain, snow 120° in the sandbox or -20 in the polar regions. And for some that is the ultimate and possibly only consideration. Is it entirely comfortable? Not entirely. Is it ergonomic? It depends on the model and one's hands. We can start with the trigger shoe. that piece of work is neither comfortable nor ergonomic. Metaphorically, compared to Crockodile Dundee and food in the bush, Dundee is quoted: "Tastes like s**** but you can live on it". Glock trigger shoe? Feels like hell but you can shoot it. Other than the function of the safety lever, why does Glock produce a trigger shoe that simply hurts to shoot? Almost every other shoe on the market proves that you can have both safety and comfort. Why are Glock internal part rough and unrefined? Because refinement is time and time is cost and without it will still go bang- even if it feels rough. Why are Glock sights plastic while so many of their competitors offer sights that are not only metal, but are night sights- stock out of the box? You know the reason. Why did I buy a 43x? Two reasons: 1) I liked the way the handle felt for the size of the pistol. 2) It was available in a drought of handguns and few were available that I could hold in my hand (I actually only got to hold a 48).

As far as what will ultimately be my carry setup? I'm still checking things out in tactical class, supplementing that with a ton of dry fire. It would be one thing if I were a military guy and had to learn to shoot what I was given or LE that would either issue a side arm or have specific requirements and might cause me to have to shoot a variety of different pieces. But this is my one and only 9mm at this time and the one I will use tactically for self defense and possibly for fun. It's a 3.25" barrel, so needs a little love to help make it more accurate, having given up velocity and sight distance. As long as it will go bang when i want, not go bang when I don't want, hit what I want (as tight as possible) when it does go bang, I want the most comfortable piece I can carry.

 

[cciman]

Go to more classes, and get more training. Dry firing is like wanking-- it's only real in your mind.

Get better at shooting.
When you actually reach the level of skill that the gun is capable of, then you can make informed decisions what is needed afterwards. What you think is an "improvement" and "customization" today may prove to be un-necessary fluffing, and useless parts, if you get to that place. May also inhibit your development if you make it too easy to use with the doodads.

Years ago, I put fancy palm pistol grips on my fencing sword, because they felt more comfortable and I could get more leverage and speed on the foil. The fencing instructor said: "those won't allow you to develop proper wrist strength- put the simple straight ones back on".

Remember that either there is a "sucker born every minute", or "if we don't have it, you don't need it".

 

[adc]

Go to more classes, and get more training. Dry firing is like wanking-- it's only real in your mind.
Get better at shooting.
When you actually reach the level of skill that the gun is capable of, then you can make informed decisions what is needed afterwards. What you think is an "improvement" and "customization" today may prove to be un-necessary fluffing, and useless parts, if you get to that place. May also inhibit your development if you make it too easy to use with the doodads.

This. I suppose you could improve your shooting as a new shooter by modifyting the firearm so it feels better in your hand....but....it also might NOT.
I am 75 and have lots of training in the last 6 years...all on glocks....mainly the 42,43, 26, 19 and 43X. (also have a 44). Then..I did something stupid. I bought the Sig P365. In many ways the P365 is a "better shooter". But I don't shoot it as well as my 19 and 43X. ((I mentioned this in another thread)

I am selling my P365 with 4 Mags and a Holster and taking a 150$ loss. No big deal. You pay to learn and its really a small price to pay.

 

[Phillyman4455!]

Looking thru ur profile and amazed at the amount of A*** that keep telling you how and what to do with ur gun when you are trying to understand how Glocks work.

This thread was great info - I made an account to comment.

I just installed my ghost pro and honestly prefer the feeling of a rolling break VS the crisp feeling I had with my JG kit for my g48. My current setup is the ghost pro with apex trigger.

Did you adjust the bend angle at all? I’ve been messing with mines - it seems like my trigger bar slightly rubs the slide if I am pulling the trigger all the way back - and racking the slide to do a trigger reset.

Great stuff!!!

 

[vindibona1]

This thread is over 2 yrs old and I have learned so much since I started it.

To answer your question about the connector spacing, it can be as close to the housing as to leave the width of a piece of paper. I have mine set slightly wider. I now have a 48 MOS as well as my 43x but have them set up very differently though they feel surprisingly similar. My 43x has a Ghost Pro connector while my 48 has an OEM connector. The Johnny Glock flat face shoe has built in reduced pre-travel and adjustable overtravel. I attribute that to the way the striker lug sits on the sear differently on each pistol. Not all trigger bars are identical.

For me, what I seem to like is a short stroke where there is little take-up and the pressure is consistent throughout through the break, with little or no overtravel. There is more to it, but I will leave it there for now.

 

[Phillyman4455!]

This thread is over 2 yrs old and I have learned so much since I started it.

To answer your question about the connector spacing, it can be as close to the housing as to leave the width of a piece of paper. I have mine set slightly wider. I now have a 48 MOS as well as my 43x but have them set up very differently though they feel surprisingly similar. My 43x has a Ghost Pro connector while my 48 has an OEM connector. The Johnny Glock flat face shoe has built in reduced pre-travel and adjustable overtravel. I attribute that to the way the striker lug sits on the sear differently on each pistol. Not all trigger bars are identical.

For me, what I seem to like is a short stroke where there is little take-up and the pressure is consistent throughout through the break, with little or no overtravel. There is more to it, but I will leave it there for now.

This was one of the only real in depth info on the ghost pro I could find. Super surprised since I believe it is much better then the edge.

I agree with you that I much prefer the feeling of a short take up with an even rolling trigger over a defined wall.

The apex trigger fits my finger much better than the vex unfortunately. But the apex has much more pre travel that I am trying to work thru on minimizing the pre travel.

I’m not sure pre travel can be adjusted “safely” but I will ask for your insight if you have any on this.

 

[Para-bellum]

Just buy the Johnny Glock vex duty series and you’ll be good

 

[vindibona1]

This was one of the only real in depth info on the ghost pro I could find. Super surprised since I believe it is much better then the edge.

I agree with you that I much prefer the feeling of a short take up with an even rolling trigger over a defined wall.

The apex trigger fits my finger much better than the vex unfortunately. But the apex has much more pre travel that I am trying to work thru on minimizing the pre travel.

I’m not sure pre travel can be adjusted “safely” but I will ask for your insight if you have any on this.

I am most familiar with Johnny Glock's trigger shoes. I have a couple of the $22 modified OEM shoes, his flat face trigger shoe (no longer available, I belief) and his Vex shoe. Like you, I'm not fond of the Vex shoe. It's quite narrow and for me the etching is far too aggressive. The pre-travel removal is ok, better than some. My first trigger replacement was an Overwatch Precision Poly DAT shoe. Like you're finding with the Apex, not as much pre-travel reduction as they would like you to believe. I also found it too wide and contoured the edges- and then sold it.

For $22 I would recommend Johnny's OEM smooth trigger shoe. IMO the dingus still needs some additional sanding, but is a good launching pad. The real thing with this shoe is that it has a pre-travel adjustment. HOWEVER, one has to be very careful not to take out too much pre-travel from both a human safety issue and a pistol safety issue. The way to see if the pre-travel is safe (meaning drop-safe) is to see how the vertical extension of the trigger bar rests on the safety plunger. The safety plunger must be completely in the "up" position. It is fully extended when the edge of the shoulder of the safety plunger is even with the hard metal of the slide itself. You can see it through the mag well with the mag removed. The photo below shows the plunger slightly depressed. This indicates too much pre-travel removal. This was with the $22 shoe. I backed off the adjustment until it was fully extended. How much slack the shooter needs is up to the the needs, background and training of the shooter. I've shot a 1911 for over 30 years so I'm used to near zero pre-travel and a light trigger pull.

One thing to note, is that if you like the feel of the Ghost Pro with the Apex shoe, assuming the over-travel is adjusted properly it is recommended that you use that trigger bar in that slide with that connector. The trigger bar and striker are unique to that pistol and the Ghost Pro, having been adjusted for that setup will keep things consistent. Once you get a trigger bar and the Ghost Pro to sync up, don't mess with other combinations unless you're just testing. But in testing you might find a bar you like better. But you might find one that feels like a squirt gun also. The individual trigger bar combined with the striker are critical to optimum feel. If someone doesn't want a refined feel for their personal preference none of this matters as long as the striker breaks and the gun goes bang.

Truth be told, if we're in a SHTF situation with adrenaline pumping most likely we're going to mash the trigger and all this is kind of worthless. But it should be noted that Leftist/Woke prosecutors will try to find anything to pick apart in front of a jury. So, how much pre-travel/slack you leave in relative to the OEM configuration may matter from that standpoint.

PM to be sent.

 

[db22]

Your OEM trigger was never broke, stop trying to fix it.
Stay away from all that aftermarket trigger gobbledygook.
Save your money and just shoot your gun, it will sweeten up with each shot

Hmmm, I'm beginning to think this is the wisest advice.