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Hey y'all,

I have been looking at Sigs and I am wondering, why are the Sig P226/229 so much more expensive than the P320 and the P365?

It seems that the P320 sells for around $550-$700 and the P365 roughly the same, while the P226/229 sells for around $1,000, and the P226/229 "Legion" pistols sell for closer to $1,200 - $1,500.

Are the P226/229 made of higher quality parts? Are hammer-fired pistols more expensive to manufacture than striker-fired pistols?

And what's up with the P226/229 Legion series pistols? Why are they so much more expensive than even the regular P226/229?

Any info would be appreciated! Thanks!
 
In addition to other's statements about polymer vs metal frames, the P226/229 and Legion series are much better quality. Their trigger pulls are like butter and are the best double action triggers I've ever felt. I don't currently own one but I have shot the range rental P226 and have finger banged the Legions at the gun store counter. When I'm ready to buy a new pistol, I'm wavering between a P229 for carry or a full size P220 or 226 Legion SAO for range fun and home defense.
 
I don't know about the Sig plastic pistols but I do have a G19. The Glock costs prolly 450.00. the only real parts in it are the bbl and the slide. The rest is plastic, stamped and a few cheap springs. Glock would make a killing if they sold it for 175.00. I have to think the same about the plastic SIG. No, they won't discontinue the metal SIG, people still buy 1911 guns, sheeeeeesh!
 
Hey y'all,

I have been looking at Sigs and I am wondering, why are the Sig P226/229 so much more expensive than the P320 and the P365?

It seems that the P320 sells for around $550-$700 and the P365 roughly the same, while the P226/229 sells for around $1,000, and the P226/229 "Legion" pistols sell for closer to $1,200 - $1,500.

Are the P226/229 made of higher quality parts? Are hammer-fired pistols more expensive to manufacture than striker-fired pistols?

And what's up with the P226/229 Legion series pistols? Why are they so much more expensive than even the regular P226/229?

Any info would be appreciated! Thanks!
226 is a immaculately machined Pistol built with quality parts and design.
 
In addition to other's statements about polymer vs metal frames, the P226/229 and Legion series are much better quality. Their trigger pulls are like butter and are the best double action triggers I've ever felt. I don't currently own one but I have shot the range rental P226 and have finger banged the Legions at the gun store counter. When I'm ready to buy a new pistol, I'm wavering between a P229 for carry or a full size P220 or 226 Legion SAO for range fun and home defense.
220 all day long.
 
226 is a immaculately machined Pistol built with quality parts and design.
Once you actually look/feel/hold/fire/take apart a Sig 226/229/etc Legion and compare it to a $4-600 polymer pistol you realize the time/effort/r&d/etc needed.

One can truly be called a work of art.

That said there are certainly pistols that make the Sig Legions look ordinary as well. :)
 
I think everyone has covered it pretty well.
1. Nicely made and finished metal pistols require more labor intensive fitting and finishing, and some higher cost materials.

2. As BAC indicated, marketing and perception plays into it; the reputation of Sig as a quality builder of traditional firearms enables them to sell their products at a higher price, just as Colt can charge some premium for a plain Jane 1911. Likewise, producers with these reputations can command additional premium for their premium lines. This is not to say that the reputations are undeserved, nor that the premium lines do not have value added that justifies the cost, but there is some “ what the market will bear” effect.
3. The flip side of the coin is that the market says that a service grade polymer frame striker fired 9mm has a street price around $500 +/- ( in “ normal “ times)
4. As long as product can be sold at a profit and at a volume that supports the overhead, it will likely continue to be produced. I seem to notice perhaps less variations of the traditional SiG platform in the sub Legion lines. Theoretically, any manufacturer has limited production capacity, which will be allocated based on demand and profitability. Reducing the number of units of a particular line, means that overhead is spread over less units, increasing the effective cost per unit, which will reduce profits, increase price per unit or both. Some companies may produce signature legacy products as almost art, sometimes even at a loss, but have other lines that allow the company to operate profitably as a whole.
 
Because they aren’t cheap to produce like a striker fired polymer gun.

I love the P2xx series guns. I have carried and shot them for years. The P226 and later a P226R in .40 was my duty gun for twelve years. I would still be carrying it if the agency hadn’t taken it away. The department grew a lot in a few years and couldn’t afford to replace them with new alloy framed Sigs.

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Everyone needs a nice hammer fired da/sa pistol. I like beretta 92s better but both of them are like a work of art compared to striker fired pistols you can add the cz75 to that as well. They all have their place, the striker pistols are great tools but to me they are just that, a tool.
I think the only thing I like better than my Sigs are my Berettas. I’m carrying a Beretta 84F on my hip right now.

The 92/M9 is my all time favorite.
 
Because they aren’t cheap to produce like a striker fired polymer gun.

I love the P2xx series guns. I have carried and shot them for years. The P226 and later a P226R in .40 was my duty gun for twelve years. I would still be carrying it if the agency hadn’t taken it away. The department grew a lot in a few years and couldn’t afford to replace them with new alloy framed Sigs.

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What model is the bottom one, please? Thanks.
 
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Sig P232.

One of my all time favorites. I prefer it to the PPK. Much more reliable and better trigger and decocker IMO. I know not all will agree, but it’s my preference.

Very sleek, sexy, reliable and accurate little carry gun.

When I first got it I fired 250 rounds of various .380 ammo through it without cleaning. Not a single malfunction, even with JHP. I have never seen one of imported Interarms or S&W 380 PPK/S fire that much without a malfunction.

The .32 PPK is a different story. They are known to be reliable, just much more expensive and harder to find.
 
Same reason a Porsche 911 is more expensive than a Boxter or Cayman, more than Audi, which is more than VW. Branding, psychology, and marketing. Will they all take you from point A to B?

Ask yourself why you are buying it..... vs. a CANIK or a Ruger, or S&W. Because you like to say "I own a Sig" ?
 
Sig P232.

One of my all time favorites. I prefer it to the PPK. Much more reliable and better trigger and decocker IMO. I know not all will agree, but it’s my preference.

Very sleek, sexy, reliable and accurate little carry gun.

When I first got it I fired 250 rounds of various .380 ammo through it without cleaning. Not a single malfunction, even with JHP. I have never seen one of imported Interarms or S&W 380 PPK/S fire that much without a malfunction.

The .32 PPK is a different story. They are known to be reliable, just much more expensive and harder to find.
I do like the looks of it. I'm under the impression I'd shoot it well.
 
Hey y'all,

I have been looking at Sigs and I am wondering, why are the Sig P226/229 so much more expensive than the P320 and the P365?

It seems that the P320 sells for around $550-$700 and the P365 roughly the same, while the P226/229 sells for around $1,000, and the P226/229 "Legion" pistols sell for closer to $1,200 - $1,500.

Are the P226/229 made of higher quality parts? Are hammer-fired pistols more expensive to manufacture than striker-fired pistols?

And what's up with the P226/229 Legion series pistols? Why are they so much more expensive than even the regular P226/229?

Any info would be appreciated! Thanks!
The Legion is not a must have IMO. The standard P220/226 models are perfect out of the box.

You can shop around and find them for much less than $1000. I won my near mint condition W. German P226 in a gunbroker auction for $600 just a year or two ago.
 
Speaking as an instructor, do this:

  • Take a 226, a 229, some other Sig of your choice, a 1911, a Glock and a Luger. Lay them on the bench with one or two rounds each. (Ideally, each weapon is brand new and available for that shooter to buy.)
  • Ask a new shooter to try each one in sequence.
  • Ask the new shooter which one they would buy.
  • Give them a couple more rounds for each weapon if they request it.
  • Ask them again.

Repeat this sequence a few hundred times with a few hundred new shooters, preferably as part of a class designed to help new shooters select a weapon. (One of the ranges I've taught at had such a class, and while I thought parts of it were good ideas that should be incorporated into every intro class, I didn't like the focus on the gun store attached to that range. I also didn't like acting as a salesman without the commission, but there were lots of other things that were more important at the time. Income never had a lot to do with my teaching.)

You'll end up with a bunch of new shooters who own 1911s, 229s, Glocks and 226s, in that order. I imagine Sig is certainly aware of this. (If I'm aware of it, how can they not be aware of it and remain in business?)

I'm pretty sure I've done this more than a couple thousand times, but since I didn't keep count, I'll claim hundreds, not thousands, since I'm sure of hundreds.
 
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