[Rooster22]

One thing comes to mind after i responded to your message... you didnt mention what ammo you were using. Sometimes this can play a roll in problems. Not all extractor grooves in the ammo cases is/are created equal. Some of the grooves in the ammo casings can be off just enough to give you an extraction issue. Have you tried several different ammo brands to see if this problem still happens?

Thanks. I did. I guess it’s just part of the change it sounds like. I will say firing it it’s fine. Just if you wanna clear a round. And then sometimes mine leaves one in the chamber. Prolly 365xl time

 

[Damn_Yankee]

No it fired fine it’s just if I try and clear one manually it seems like excessive force to me anyway to eject a round and then sometimes it doesn’t even pull the cartridge out. Sounds like racking the slide hard to clear a round is normal with the new setup. I did try different rounds it didn’t seem to matter.

My Gen5 G19 was like this. Took a bit of an extra tug on the slide to eject a round. I never really gave it a second thought since it never had a failure during live fire and the ejection pattern was very consistent.

 

[Rooster22]

My Gen5 G19 was like this. Took a bit of an extra tug on the slide to eject a round. I never really gave it a second thought since it never had a failure during live fire and the ejection pattern was very consistent.

That part I get now Which I learned about coming on here but. But Mine didn’t grab several rounds to manually extract them though so that bothers me

 

[Intolerant]

Posts: #62 & #63

What you may be experiencing too, is that its possible that the bullet may be sticking into the lands of the barrel rifling making it harder to remove it manually.
Do either of you guys notice any markings on the bullet after ejecting the live round? If you see it showing witness marks on the bullet(s) from the rifling, this is probably why the live rounds are coming out hard.

I`ve heard it told that the new barrels are quite different. Some even complained that they couldnt shoot their reloads in a Gen 5 but they could in their Gen 4 guns.

I`ll also add, that i thought the G43X had the same barrel as the G43. I dunno, just a guess. Nobody knows this but glock though.

 

[Intolerant]

Ok thanks. I do see the notch cut on the side that my 43 doesn’t have. Never had that issue with brass on other glocks though. I can live with it requiring more force as a design feature but leaving several rounds in the chamber when I tried to clear them bothers me especially for a new improved extractor.

I looked my 43X over real good when i bought it, and it did NOT have the breech face cut. Might have been an after thought on glocks end later on in production(?)
Mine was a very early model, so that might explain it, OR, it more than likely slipped out the door accidentally without it being done. (that wouldnt surprise me either)

 

[Nagoya10]

From posts on here, I believe that all (or most) later production Gen5 and Slimline Glocks now have the breech face cut in them, including the new ,40 cal Gen5's. Pretty much all the new production 9mm's should have them, at least Gen5 and later.

It requires more effort to hand eject a chambered round with the breech face cut. It is completely normal, the pistol is not malfunctioning, does not have a bad extractor or ejector, the round is not stuck in the chamber or wedged in the rifling, it will not break in and get easier over time, it is not ammo specific and does not need shipped back to Glock, the Mothership or taken to a GSSF meet to give to the Glock gunsmith for repair. It is inherent in the design which gives a firm and stout ejection of the empty case when shooting.

If you want to eject an unfired cartridge easier from a breech face cut Glock, after removing the magazine (or clip if you roll that way) slowly pull the slide back to where it gets difficult/stops moving, then move the slide forward and back several times about a half inch or so and the cartridge will fall out the magazine well. That way you won't damage the tip of the bullet.

 

[Intolerant]

From posts on here, I believe that all (or most) later production Gen5 and Slimline Glocks now have the breech face cut in them, including the new ,40 cal Gen5's. Pretty much all the new production 9mm's should have them, at least Gen5 and later.

It requires more effort to hand eject a chambered round with the breech face cut. It is completely normal, the pistol is not malfunctioning, does not have a bad extractor or ejector, the round is not stuck in the chamber or wedged in the rifling, it will not break in and get easier over time, it is not ammo specific and does not need shipped back to Glock, the Mothership or taken to a GSSF meet to give to the Glock gunsmith for repair. It is inherent in the design which gives a firm and stout ejection of the empty case when shooting.

If you want to eject an unfired cartridge easier from a breech face cut Glock, after removing the magazine (or clip if you roll that way) slowly pull the slide back to where it gets difficult/stops moving, then move the slide forward and back several times about a half inch or so and the cartridge will fall out the magazine well. That way you won't damage the tip of the bullet.

Pretty strong comments and confidence without the gun actually being in your own hands to see whats going on.

 

[judgecrater]

Posts: #62 & #63

What you may be experiencing too, is that its possible that the bullet may be sticking into the lands of the barrel rifling making it harder to remove it manually.
Do either of you guys notice any markings on the bullet after ejecting the live round? If you see it showing witness marks on the bullet(s) from the rifling, this is probably why the live rounds are coming out hard.

I`ve heard it told that the new barrels are quite different. Some even complained that they couldnt shoot their reloads in a Gen 5 but they could in their Gen 4 guns.

I`ll also add, that i thought the G43X had the same barrel as the G43. I dunno, just a guess. Nobody knows this but glock though.

Yes the new Marksman barrel in gen 5 Glock 19s have a significantly shorter throat than any of the previous generations. I can't comment on 43X but possibly the same.

 

[Intolerant]

Yes the new Marksman barrel in gen 5 Glock 19s have a significantly shorter throat than any of the previous generations. I can't comment on 43X but possibly the same.

Thats what i`ve been finding too.

 

[keybrandgear]

Summary:

Plastic pin inside the slide lock broke and was causing extra tension in the spring, resulting in prevention of upward pressure to hold the slide open. The solution was to remove the broken part and replace the slide lock without it, and possibly order a new part to install later. A tutorial on how to check function of the slide stop and magazine was included.


Is that about right?

 

[Rooster22]

I’ll check it out. Had t looked for that.

I looked my 43X over real good when i bought it, and it did NOT have the breech face cut. Might have been an after thought on glocks end later on in production(?)
Mine was a very early model, so that might explain it, OR, it more than likely slipped out the door accidentally without it being done. (that wouldnt surprise me either)

 

[Rooster22]

From posts on here, I believe that all (or most) later production Gen5 and Slimline Glocks now have the breech face cut in them, including the new ,40 cal Gen5's. Pretty much all the new production 9mm's should have them, at least Gen5 and later.

It requires more effort to hand eject a chambered round with the breech face cut. It is completely normal, the pistol is not malfunctioning, does not have a bad extractor or ejector, the round is not stuck in the chamber or wedged in the rifling, it will not break in and get easier over time, it is not ammo specific and does not need shipped back to Glock, the Mothership or taken to a GSSF meet to give to the Glock gunsmith for repair. It is inherent in the design which gives a firm and stout ejection of the empty case when shooting.

If you want to eject an unfired cartridge easier from a breech face cut Glock, after removing the magazine (or clip if you roll that way) slowly pull the slide back to where it gets difficult/stops moving, then move the slide forward and back several times about a half inch or so and the cartridge will fall out the magazine well. That way you won't damage the tip of the bullet.

If that’s how it works that’s how it works. Personally I Fail to see it as upgrade over previous glocks but I never had brass in my face either.

 

[Intolerant]

Summary:

Plastic pin inside the slide lock broke and was causing extra tension in the spring, resulting in prevention of upward pressure to hold the slide open. The solution was to remove the broken part and replace the slide lock without it, and possibly order a new part to install later. A tutorial on how to check function of the slide stop and magazine was included.


Is that about right?

If this comment was mean`t for me, i couldnt tell yah on the "tutorial" included, i never got one. Mine was a early build failure.
All i can tell you now is, i no longer have the G43X. And i surely have no intentions of ever buying another one either.

 

[rlewpolar]

Not sure why the OP is getting pushback from some folks here. He found a problem and did a good job at diagnosing the problem and came up with a fix. Sounds like this plastic dowel might be a problem going forward for others. If he had just sent the gun back to Glock, he (and we) may never have gotten an explanation of what the problem was.

That said, I constantly have failures to lock back on my P-series Sigs and it doesn’t bother me in the least. But that’s because I know I’m the problem, not the pistol. I want my Glocks (and all pistols) to function the way they should and if not, I want to know why.


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[Rooster22]

I looked my 43X over real good when i bought it, and it did NOT have the breech face cut. Might have been an after thought on glocks end later on in production(?)
Mine was a very early model, so that might explain it, OR, it more than likely slipped out the door accidentally without it being done. (that wouldnt surprise me either)

Mine does have the cut. And now I found it if put a dummy round in it for dry fire and then fire it. I cannot pull the slide back. it will move about a millimeter so I have to shake it and tap it for about 10 minutes and finally the slide will move. can't tell what the hang up is. I have a variety of dummy rounds and they all function in my 19 and 43 as well as sigs. They all lock up the 43x MOS. talked to Glock today and told them about failure to pull out live rounds randomly and the issue with the dummy rounds and how they function in all my other guns and friends guns. They basically told me it was probably the rounds, live and dummy that I had issues with that may not function with this new extraction set up. They did say I could send it in at my expense but that there is probably nothing wrong with the gun. Really doesn't seem like an upgrade if I can't trust it to function with commonly available rounds. It was expensive federal, cheap federal, cheap Winchester and cheap Remington that I used. So far extremely disappointed in my decision to upgrade.--Called back to get some further instructions on sending in the gun in and talked to a different guy, totally different story, said the gun should be sent in and he is sending a label so that was a nice change.

 

[Intolerant]

Mine does have the cut. And now I found it if put a dummy round in it for dry fire and then fire it. I cannot pull the slide back. it will move about a millimeter so I have to shake it and tap it for about 10 minutes and finally the slide will move. can't tell what the hang up is. I have a variety of dummy rounds and they all function in my 19 and 43 as well as sigs. They all lock up the 43x MOS. talked to Glock today and told them about failure to pull out live rounds randomly and the issue with the dummy rounds and how they function in all my other guns and friends guns. They basically told me it was probably the rounds, live and dummy that I had issues with that may not function with this new extraction set up. They did say I could send it in at my expense but that there is probably nothing wrong with the gun. Really doesn't seem like an upgrade if I can't trust it to function with commonly available rounds. It was expensive federal, cheap federal, cheap Winchester and cheap Remington that I used. So far extremely disappointed in my decision to upgrade.

I think you have a tight chamber.
Maybe you should just send it to glock with a detailed written description of your complaint, then they will likely just replace the barrel and ship it back to you.
I would ship it to them with the dummy round so that they can try it for themselves. Stranger things have happened. They might agree, and change out the barrel. Worth a shot.

 

[Rooster22]

I think you have a tight chamber.
Maybe you should just send it to glock with a detailed written description of your complaint, then they will likely just replace the barrel and ship it back to you.
I would ship it to them with the dummy round so that they can try it for themselves. Stranger things have happened. They might agree, and change out the barrel. Worth a shot.

I am gonna send it in , they didn't want the rounds just the gun and the mags, said the aftermarket sights on it are fine too so hopefully they figure something out. I'll let you know what they say.

 

[Intolerant]

I am gonna send it in , they didn't want the rounds just the gun and the mags, said the aftermarket sights on it are fine too so hopefully they figure something out. I'll let you know what they say.

Sure hope they make it right for you - Good Luck!
I had the G43X, mine was nothing but problems, i got rid of it, never regretted getting rid of it either.
I still carry my G43 everyday though, never once a hiccup ever. Same with my P365`s, they`ve run flawless.

 

[Intolerant]

I am gonna send it in , they didn't want the rounds just the gun and the mags, said the aftermarket sights on it are fine too so hopefully they figure something out. I'll let you know what they say.

PM coming your way, check you IN box.

 

[ansehnlich1]

I bought a 43x today. First mag I ran 10 rounds of 124gr. federal hst hp's through it. Then I ran 70 rounds of 115gr WWB.

No issues.

Came home, started looking around a bit, you know, just killin' time. Popped on to this thread.

Only reason I'm responding here is I had to look for that breech cut, and sure enough, it's there.