[rangerhgm]

I was at Rural King yesterday, and as always have to go thru the gun area.

As I was checking their rather sparse gun inventory I couldn't help over hear the conversation next to me about getting a gun for concealed carry.

It was an older man (mid-late 60's maybe) and his wife talking with the RK associate.

Conversation went something like this:

Customer: I want a gun for concealed carry.

Associate: Are you looking for a specific gun?

Customer: I don't own any guns, so I don't really know.

Associate: Gets out a gun and says this is the one I would recommend.

(I couldn't tell what it was, except that it was a revolver)​

Customer: Where's the safety?

Associate: Revolvers don't have safeties.

Customer: If there's no safety how in the world do you keep it from going off accidentally?

Associate: (straight faced as could be) Keep your finger off the trigger.

Customer: I'll take it.

Associate: Are you sure this is what you want?

Customer: Yes, I need some kind of a gun.

I know there are a lot of first time buyers, but this is the only time I actually witnessed a conversation like this and it really hit home with me. I just hope this guy, and other first time buyers get some training beyond taking a CCW class.

At some point we were all first time buyers, but most gun people I know were already familiar with guns, and did some research, before making that first purchase.

 

[bac1023]

Yep

This year has really made me question whether I fully support 2A or not. Some of the folks I’ve seen buying guns very clearly shouldn’t have them. Not even sure some of them know which end of the gun to hold. It’s scary.

 

[Jarine88]

I ran into something like that back in March. I found myself talking to a guy at the gun counter in Academy. We were talking about different pistols when I realized this was going to be his first. At least he promised to get training.

I fully support the second amendment, but I can see it resulting in a few Darwin awards.

Until they require IQ and knowledge tests before voting, there should be no restrictions on firearms. There are far too many people who are either too stupid or too ignorant to be allowed to vote as is evident by some of our elected officials.

 

[BamaTrooper]

Requiring training is an infringement. Supporting and recommending is not.

Dollars to donuts, the majority of these first time buyers will never fire their gun.

 

[azbuckeye]

Times are changing. I've recently been approached by two colleagues, one who was opposed to owning firearms\concealed carry, asking for advice about choosing their first firearms. My 62 year old brother-in-law just completed his CCW class and will be carrying for the first time.....

 

[rangerhgm]

Yep

This year has really made me question whether I fully support 2A or not. Some of the folks I’ve seen buying guns very clearly shouldn’t have them. Not even sure some of them know which end of the gun to hold. It’s scary.

I still support the 2A, but certainly I see your point.

 

[rangerhgm]

Times are changing. I've recently been approached by two colleagues, one who was opposed to owning firearms\concealed carry, asking for advice about choosing their first firearms. My 62 year old brother-in-law just completed his CCW class and will be carrying for the first time.....

Not the first time I've heard this. At least people like this show some common sense and responsibility.....not just diving in blindly.

 

[ranger1968]

Yep

This year has really made me question whether I fully support 2A or not. Some of the folks I’ve seen buying guns very clearly shouldn’t have them. Not even sure some of them know which end of the gun to hold. It’s scary.

If you are questioning your support for the Second Amendment based on the gun safety practices of others, you don't really support the Second Amendment.

Risk of harm is one of the consequences of Liberty.

And you are either in favor of liberty or you are not.

 

[gunowner1]

Ive given two or three people target ammo and advice at the range. Many think just owning a gun makes them safe. I try to explain that without training and the proper mind set just owning a gun is slightly better than a bat.

 

[bac1023]

If you are questioning your support for the Second Amendment based on the gun safety practices of others, you don't really support the Second Amendment.

Risk of harm is one of the consequences of Liberty.

And you are either in favor of liberty or you are not.

This sort of speak doesn’t impress me. Than I’m not, if you want to put it that way. How’s that sound?

I don’t need a bunch of liberals toting guns that have ZERO clue what the hell they are doing and probably putting others in harms way. Not to mention, most will likely be voting blue on top of it.

That said, I’m in favor of gun ownership for all, provided they at least have some idea of safe practices of gun handling.

 

[10or45]

Yep

This year has really made me question whether I fully support 2A or not. Some of the folks I’ve seen buying guns very clearly shouldn’t have them. Not even sure some of them know which end of the gun to hold. It’s scary.

I fully support both the 2nd amendment and natural selection.

 

[clancy]

Yep

This year has really made me question whether I fully support 2A or not. Some of the folks I’ve seen buying guns very clearly shouldn’t have them. Not even sure some of them know which end of the gun to hold. It’s scary.

When my ex took her handgun safety course years ago I sat in on it, I figured I might learn something. One woman, when asked by the instructor why she wanted a pistol, her reply was "I am sick and tired of these little bastards cutting through my backyard on their way to school". The instructor just nodded, asked the other why they wanted a pistol(overwhelmingly, the answer was self defense) and taught the course. I would have thrown that woman out, but he didn't.

As far as I know, she hasn't shot any kids. Yet.

 

[bac1023]

I fully support both the 2nd amendment and natural selection.

That’s cool

I always thought I was also until I saw some of the absolute clowns buying guns this year.

 

[bac1023]

When my ex took her handgun safety course years ago I sat in on it, I figured I might learn something. One woman, when asked by the instructor why she wanted a pistol, her reply was "I am sick and tired of these little bastards cutting through my backyard on their way to school". The instructor just nodded, asked the other why they wanted a pistol(overwhelmingly, the answer was self defense) and taught the course. I would have thrown that woman out, but he didn't.

As far as I know, she hasn't shot any kids. Yet.

Well at least she wanted some training.

 

[clancy]

This sort of speak doesn’t impress me. Than I’m not, if you want to put it that way. How’s that sound?

I don’t need a bunch of liberals toting guns that have ZERO clue what the hell they are doing and probably putting others in harms way. Not to mention, most will likely be voting blue on top of it.

That said, I’m in favor of gun ownership for all, provided they at least have some idea of safe practices of gun handling.

There was a time when our fathers, grandfathers or the military taught us how to shoot and use guns safely. That seems like a long time ago. People need to be taught how to drive or ride a bike safely, I see no reason why they should not be taught how to handle a weapon safely.

 

[p.d.]

I ran into something like that back in March. I found myself talking to a guy at the gun counter in Academy. We were talking about different pistols when I realized this was going to be his first. At least he promised to get training.

I fully support the second amendment, but I can see it resulting in a few Darwin awards.

Until they require IQ and knowledge tests before voting, there should be no restrictions on firearms. There are far too many people who are either too stupid or too ignorant to be allowed to vote as is evident by some of our elected officials.

I logged on simply to hit the like button here.

 

[rogn]

Ive given two or three people target ammo and advice at the range. Many think just owning a gun makes them safe. I try to explain that without training and the proper mind set just owning a gun is slightly better than a bat.

Without training many of these first timers are actually more dangerous to themselves and colleagues than if not armed , bats aside. They at this point can/will be the source of guns for criminals when they are tsken away from them. Hopefully they havent killed their wives or children beforehand.

As much as it galls me I feel that having manditory education , training is essential to the continuation and existance of the second ammendment. Since we have become an urban/suburban society the childhood right of passage of use and familiarity to guns has been omitted . Without these early on introductions and/or military trining the new gun owners are dangers to society. A few NDs and accidental shooting , then the antis- have new political fodder for hysterical induced anti legislation. The only cure is to ensure safe competent handling of firearms.

WE need to implement a plan and course of action that ensures 2A rights but does so in a supported safe manner.

 

[ranger1968]

This sort of speak doesn’t impress me. Than I’m not, if you want to put it that way. How’s that sound?

I don’t need a bunch of liberals toting guns that have ZERO clue what the hell they are doing and probably putting others in harms way. Not to mention, most will likely be voting blue on top of it.

That said, I’m in favor of gun ownership for all, provided they at least have some idea of safe practices of gun handling.

It doesn't have to " impress you"

It is what it is;

You only support A right for SOME people; which means that you don't really support it.

That's sad.

 

[10or45]

That’s cool

I always thought I was also until I saw some of the absolute clowns buying guns this year.

Some people absolutely should not own guns imo but not having that right up front for all citizens is what I disagree with. Like with felons and the mentally challenged, it is restricted or the right is lost through criminal behavior. Doing away with the 2A opens up pandoras box for the country. It is "Liberty's teeth".

 

[bac1023]

There was a time when our fathers, grandfathers or the military taught us how to shoot and use guns safely. That seems like a long time ago. People need to be taught how to drive or ride a bike safely, I see no reason why they should not be taught how to handle a weapon safely.

That’s my whole point, yes.

For those of us that grew up shooting, gun safety was almost learned like we learned the English language. People in their adult years who have never even handled, let alone owned a gun before, have an obligation to keep themselves and others around them safe by learning how to use the damn thing.

My opinion might not be popular, but I generally don’t worry about that sort of thing.