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Going through NYS can be tricky.

You can go through, if where you are coming from is legal, and where you are going to is legal. You are not supposed to stop to do anything in NYS (gas might be ok).

Unload gun, unload mags, have them locked up in the trunk. Probably better to lock guns and ammo separately. No mags that can hold more than 10.

Without a NYS permit, if the gun is carried, or even if the gun is in your car or in your hotel room or in anything that makes it your possession, and you stay in NYS for any time other than driving straight through, you would potentially be facing a felony. If carried and driving through, still felony. People do get jacked up for this sort of stuff in friendly New York.
The same politicians responsible for this would like to see these edicts apply to the entire nation.
 
My kid works for Verizon and has decided to take a position in Mass. She currently owns a G30, formally mine, and a 9mm shield.
Its my understanding she can legally take both guns to Mass. when she moves. Minus any post ban G21 mags she may have. I told her to disassemble both guns during travel, no ammo in vehicle, and go to the nearest gun shop when she gets there to find out what she has to do to register those guns in Mass.
Question is, is all this legal, and hoe long does she have to complete the process before she is a felon?
No need to register the firearms. The state records transfers (private, inheritance, through dealer).

From the page the Chief cites above for new residents:
"The registration process only applies to the transfer of firearms to or from Massachusetts residents. Citizens moving into the Commonwealth with previously owned guns need not register them; however, the individual must still obtain the proper firearms license."

She wont ever be able to sell the Glock through a dealer to an MA resident, but a properly reported private sale is OK. Don't sweat the approved roster, it applies to dealer sales only.

Definitely make sure there are no post-ban mags with a capacity over 10 rounds.

GOAL (as referenced in the Chief's post) has great info and is great for answering member's question over the phone if needed.
 
I told her to disassemble both guns during travel,
Disassembled guns = prison, in places where they are illegal. A disassembled gun in the passenger compartment is no different, if driving through New York for example, than one strapped to your hip, because there is no federal exemption from state law for disassembled guns.

Since the law says what she has to do with them, and disassembly isn't it, I'd advise following the law.

18 U.S. Code § 926A.Interstate transportation of firearms

Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/926A

no ammo in vehicle, and go to the nearest gun shop when she gets there to find out what she has to do to register those guns in Mass.
Question is, is all this legal, and hoe long does she have to complete the process before she is a felon?
So you're saying she should first take the gun into Massachusetts (which is not covered by the FOPA, above, since it is her destination), then go to a stranger to ask if she has already committed a crime? Sounds a little risky.
 
Disassembled guns = prison, in places where they are illegal. A disassembled gun in the passenger compartment is no different, if driving through New York for example, than one strapped to your hip, because there is no federal exemption from state law for disassembled guns.

Since the law says what she has to do with them, and disassembly isn't it, I'd advise following the law.

18 U.S. Code § 926A.Interstate transportation of firearms

Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/926A


So you're saying she should first take the gun into Massachusetts (which is not covered by the FOPA, above, since it is her destination), then go to a stranger to ask if she has already committed a crime? Sounds a little risky.
Under MA law she can bring them into MA and store them in her home for 60 days prior to getting a license.

https://goal.org/new-resident-info/

"New Residents: The laws exempts move in and possession in the home for new residents for sixty (60) days. It does not exempt the possession of large capacity rifles and shotguns, assault weapons and large capacity magazines. Until you receive the proper license do not transport any guns and/or ammunition. GOAL recommends getting the required training and application in to the police department immediately as it may take forty-five 40+ days to process your application for licensure."
 
Going through NYS can be tricky.

You can go through, if where you are coming from is legal, and where you are going to is legal. You are not supposed to stop to do anything in NYS (gas might be ok).

Unload gun, unload mags, have them locked up in the trunk. Probably better to lock guns and ammo separately. No mags that can hold more than 10.

Without a NYS permit, if the gun is carried, or even if the gun is in your car or in your hotel room or in anything that makes it your possession, and you stay in NYS for any time other than driving straight through, you would potentially be facing a felony. If carried and driving through, still felony. People do get jacked up for this sort of stuff in friendly New York.
That's about how I understand it and there are no exceptions I have ever heard of for a disassembled gun.
 
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Potential prison time for violating an illegal statute dictated by the state. In effect, creating criminals where no crime was committed. There is something Orweilian about this. The premise is, if a person has this evil implement, they will cause great evil. What defines a thought crime?

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So guns locked up, not readily accessible.No ammo in vehicle, if so locked up seperate. She goes to local sherriffs office and fill out the paperwork. Takes a course and thats about it.
 
So guns locked up, not readily accessible.No ammo in vehicle, if so locked up seperate. She goes to local sherriffs office and fill out the paperwork. Takes a course and thats about it.
That's about it unless Murphy shows up. I'd suggest my daughter call the local MA LE agency and get the procedure from them. I'd get a name too. Life changing things can happen when least expected.
 
I live in Florida. Some years ago I found myself on the wrong end of a corporate merger.
My new employer wanted to move me to New Jersey and pay me 10k more a year.
I figured that 10k would instantly be swallowed up by the state income tax. Higher rent, and auto insurance. And cost of living. And I would have to find a home for what NJ calls "my evil guns".
And we would be leaving our families behind. Many reasons not to move. Not one to go.
A former employer found out I was becoming available again and made me an offer I could not refuse. Also, Verizon wanted to hire me too. For Florida. Turned them down.
Life is full of decisions. We try to make the best ones we can based on current information available to us. The one moving to Mass would not be a hard one for me.
John!
 
I’m working on relocating to New England because my honey is stuck in MA for at least four more years. I don’t want to live in MA for both tax and gun reasons, so I’m looking twenty minutes north of her in NH.
 
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