Near as I can tell no one has ever made a production 41 mag bolt action rifle.
Has anyone seen one, production or custom built?
Has anyone seen one, production or custom built?
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Not really superior. There is only .019 thousands of an inch different in bullet diameter.Too bad the 41 didn't take off. From what I've read, it is ballistically superior to the 44 magnum.
It's not just the diameter, its also the sectional density, ballistics, penetration, etc. In some instances, the 41 will outperform the 44 mag. Of course, the 44 mag will always have the advantage of bullet weight, but there are a lot of articles that show that at 240 gr and less, the 41 is a better cartridge and the sectional density is better.Not really superior. There is only .019 thousands of an inch different in bullet diameter.
The 41 Magnum was supposed to be a police round in a time when there were no really good pistol bullets other than lead SWC. All that needed to be done was to develop a reduced lead SWC factory police load to be used in Smith's N frame guns
I think that there is still a market for a factory 44 Magnum loaded with a 240 grain SWC-HP at about 900 fps. I do this using Hornady's 240 grain SWC-HP and it will do about 95% of what ever needs to be done with a handgun.
Here is my rather rare, and rather valuable, Marlin Cowboy Limited in 41 Magnum.Marlin did lever guns in 41. Mag but they are high .
The 41 Magnum and the 44 Magnum bullets pretty much have the same sectional density and the ballistic coefficient of a brick. Penetration is a function of bullet construction and weight. All thing considered a heavy for caliber hard cast lead bullet in either one will go through a lot of animal and out the other side.It's not just the diameter, its also the sectional density, ballistics, penetration, etc. In some instances, the 41 will outperform the 44 mag. Of course, the 44 mag will always have the advantage of bullet weight, but there are a lot of articles that show that at 240 gr and less, the 41 is a better cartridge and the sectional density is better.
Do I own a 41...no. Most of my revolver and carbine collection is 44 magnum. And I really don't plan on ever getting a 41. But, that doesn't mean there aren't other good cartridges.
Except for the TC which I sold and the 44 Specials, my collection seems similar to yours. My semi auto carbine is an original Ruger 44 carbine.The 41 Magnum and the 44 Magnum bullets pretty much have the same sectional density and the ballistic coefficient of a brick. Penetration is a function of bullet construction and weight. All thing considered a heavy for caliber hard cast lead bullet in either one will go through a lot of animal and out the other side.
Judge by bullet through the air they are pretty much the same why not go for the one that is popular and easy to find a good selection of guns.
I own fourteen 44 Magnum guns. Ten revolvers and three leveractions and one semi auto carbine. This does not count Thompson Center Contender barrels.
Add nine 44 Special revolvers just for fun. When you reload for 44 Magnum it is just as easy to load 44 Special. Cheap and easy to shoot. They do make a 41 Special. Good luck finding gun for it.
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Even in the world of enthusiasts, I'd say having over 100 guns chambered for the 41 Mag ranks right at the top of bizarre. 100+ guns is great but the same caliber??? DonI'm not familiar with such a creature. I have a close friend who has over a hundred firearms chambered in 41 Mag, and he has never mentioned one to me. I'll ask him.
I’m not familiar with Armalon carbines. Are they current production guns?Not only seen one, but own one! Do not own a Glock though. Sorry. Came across this post and felt I had to respond.
I own the only Armalon PC Carbine in .41 Magnum.
I live in the UK and handguns were banned back in 1998. I loved my .41 magnums and wanted to keep going with the calibre. I bought an Armalon in .45 ACP and asked Peter Sarony if he would build me one in .41 Magnum. He was offering them in .44 Magnum at the time. He said if I could get him the magazines he would build the gun. I procured a couple of Desert Eagle mags and we were good to go. Sadly it wasn't that straightforward, apparently match quality .41 calibre barrels aren't that easy to come by. But eventually it all came together.
Peter built his PC carbines on Lee Enfield No.4 actions. They have match quality barrels (16.5"), match triggers, cock on opening bolts and the bolt throw is reduced to suit the length of cartridge it has been chambered for.
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This is when I first got my .41 with original woodwork.
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I replaced the butt with a No.8 but which suits having a scope much better.
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My three Armalons: Top .30 Carbine, Middle .41 Magnum. Bottom .45 ACP.
I hope this is of some interest to you.
Regards,
Simon.
People collect all kinds of things, and I’d love to have his collection of .41 Mags over lots of things folks hoard.Even in the world of enthusiasts, I'd say having over 100 guns chambered for the 41 Mag ranks right at the top of bizarre. 100+ guns is great but the same caliber??? Don
That is very interesting. Thanks for sharing.Not only seen one, but own one! Do not own a Glock though. Sorry. Came across this post and felt I had to respond.
I own the only Armalon PC Carbine in .41 Magnum.
I live in the UK and handguns were banned back in 1998. I loved my .41 magnums and wanted to keep going with the calibre. I bought an Armalon in .45 ACP and asked Peter Sarony if he would build me one in .41 Magnum. He was offering them in .44 Magnum at the time. He said if I could get him the magazines he would build the gun. I procured a couple of Desert Eagle mags and we were good to go. Sadly it wasn't that straightforward, apparently match quality .41 calibre barrels aren't that easy to come by. But eventually it all came together.
Peter built his PC carbines on Lee Enfield No.4 actions. They have match quality barrels (16.5"), match triggers, cock on opening bolts and the bolt throw is reduced to suit the length of cartridge it has been chambered for.
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This is when I first got my .41 with original woodwork.
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I replaced the butt with a No.8 but which suits having a scope much better.
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My three Armalons: Top .30 Carbine, Middle .41 Magnum. Bottom .45 ACP.
I hope this is of some interest to you.
Regards,
Simon.