[bobandmikako]

I happen to like the size and balance of the 19X. I'd prefer a black version though. I'll eventually pick one up. I'm not looking to conceal it, so I don't care about the longer grip. The 4 inch slide works just fine for me as I shoot my 19 and 17 about the same. Guns with full size grips and 4" inch barrels are nothing new. The HK VP9 has about the same dimensions as the 19X with lower capacity. There's also the FN 509 and XDM 3.8. Even the Walther PPQ is pretty close in size. It's in between the 19 and 17 in grip length. The Sig P320 Carry was already mentioned. Yeah, it's not for everyone but I think the 19X will sell pretty well once the prices come down a bit. Even now though, the one in stock now at my LGS is $625. When you consider that it comes with night sights and 3 mags like the other Gen 5s, the price isn't bad.

 

[Bren]

Why?

Because a compact slide and full-sized grip is exactly the Glock I have wanted for competition for about 10 years.

A lot of people have found out, by shooting the same GSSF competition course with several Glocks, that they tend to be faster with the smaller guns. The biggest thing I notice is that, the shorter the slide is the faster I can aim and my accuracy is just as good, even at 25 yards. On the other hand, a short grip, that isn't as long as my palm is wide, slows down my reloads, because my hand is in the way.

Best of both worlds is a shorter slide and longer grip, which is exactly what the Glock 19X gives me. I can't wait to get one and will probably sell my 17 when I do - I only use the 17 for competition because of the full-sized grip.

I will add, for those who don't compete, that the reason you can outshoot a Glock 17 with a Glock 26 in GSSF, but not in IDPA or USPSA, is that GSSF is the only one that doesn't require reloads during a string of fire.

 

[fnfalman]

Nail on the head. While this doesn't apply to everyone fawning over the 19x, the military allure can't be dismissed. I'd wager it's the primary purchase reason for quite a number of folks. Although, many falling into that category will probably never admit to it. Instead, they'll pick some other feature(s) to conjure up a reason why it's an absolutely amazing, must-have pistol.

I can definitely see the military allure, but why would want to buy a "military allure" handgun that lost to the trial? There's no allure in

 

[JRZDVL]

What is a “flat shooting cycle”?

apparently, "Flat shooting"..applies to the bullet itself. I had no idea either....I just had to look this one up... and after reading, not sure the term is valid ....every bullet has a flat trajectory for a some distance...... they all drop eventually...so,

 

[Zane8133]

I've been watching the board for the past few weeks now and been waiting to see this, so I figured I'd go a head and jump in and ask -

The G19X - why????


Ok, I can see if you don't like the finger grooved frames, but then there's the regular Gen 5 guns to get rid of that? I can see if you don't like the standard G19's "hump" and it's backstrap - but then there's the Gen 4 and Gen 5 guns to get rid of that? Ambi- slide lever? Again, Gen 5 guns. See where I'm going with this? 17 round mag capability? Don't even get me started - shove a G17 mag in like we've all been doing since the original G19 and be done with it!

So other than having a clone of the gun that was submitted to the military, what's the point?

Oh yeah, and if you wanted longer grip of the 17, is it's longer slide and barrel really killing you that it's that much longer if it were for military use? If you wanted to shorter slide of the G19 to make it that much easier to carry around with you (again, for military use) would you then not also want the G19's shorter grip to make it that much easier to carry, as we all know the hardest part about carrying a gun is a longer grip - even when carried open? Other than wanting those with larger hands to be more comfortable, what's the point of putting such a tall grip on a shorter gun like the G19?

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There, that ought to be enough to start a good fight. J/K



PS - I'm am not trying to beat up the G19, I am a BIG fan and own multiple versions. I honestly believe it IS just about the "perfect" all around handgun in the world for about any use. If I could only have ONE gun, it would honestly be a G19.

I agree. I've carried my g19 since 1990. I have a 17mag & an extended mag plus 1 short for cc. 19x looks great but limited concealed ability. What more do I need besides what I have?

Let me help you get even more posters.

How about a true 22cal Glock for teaching newbies and having cheap fun?

The 22 conversions have problems so this week I bought a m&p compact 22. Close enough to glock setup. Even has three dot sites and as extra has a threaded barrel.

Mr Glock doesn't care what consumers want. He only cares about m&p. Even the new airsoft which is great for training is military & police only.

 

[Zane8133]

I agree. I've carried my g19 since 1990. I have a 17mag & an extended mag plus 1 short for cc. 19x looks great but limited concealed ability. What more do I need besides what I have?

Let me help you get even more posters.

How about a true 22cal Glock for teaching newbies and having cheap fun?

The 22 conversions have problems so this week I bought a m&p compact 22. Close enough to glock setup. Even has three dot sites and as extra has a threaded barrel.

Mr Glock doesn't care what consumers want. He only cares about m&p. Even the new airsoft which is great for training is military & police only.

Post wouldn't post till I took out s&w but this post did. Why?

 

[Kingarthurhk]

I've been watching the board for the past few weeks now and been waiting to see this, so I figured I'd go a head and jump in and ask -

The G19X - why????


Ok, I can see if you don't like the finger grooved frames, but then there's the regular Gen 5 guns to get rid of that? I can see if you don't like the standard G19's "hump" and it's backstrap - but then there's the Gen 4 and Gen 5 guns to get rid of that? Ambi- slide lever? Again, Gen 5 guns. See where I'm going with this? 17 round mag capability? Don't even get me started - shove a G17 mag in like we've all been doing since the original G19 and be done with it!

So other than having a clone of the gun that was submitted to the military, what's the point?

Oh yeah, and if you wanted longer grip of the 17, is it's longer slide and barrel really killing you that it's that much longer if it were for military use? If you wanted to shorter slide of the G19 to make it that much easier to carry around with you (again, for military use) would you then not also want the G19's shorter grip to make it that much easier to carry, as we all know the hardest part about carrying a gun is a longer grip - even when carried open? Other than wanting those with larger hands to be more comfortable, what's the point of putting such a tall grip on a shorter gun like the G19?

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There, that ought to be enough to start a good fight. J/K



PS - I'm am not trying to beat up the G19, I am a BIG fan and own multiple versions. I honestly believe it IS just about the "perfect" all around handgun in the world for about any use. If I could only have ONE gun, it would honestly be a G19.

I thought they were unique and exciting. Then I watched a 30 minute comprehensive review, and decided I didn't need a 3rd 9mm that badly.

 

[gunowner1]

The G19X does look cool. Especially the 19 round mags. I already have a G17 and G19. I would like to hold one but another gun isn't in the budget until summer.

 

[Cpt.America]

I will add, for those who don't compete, that the reason you can outshoot a Glock 17 with a Glock 26 in GSSF, but not in IDPA or USPSA, is that GSSF is the only one that doesn't require reloads during a string of fire.

IDPA doesn't require a reload during a string of fire. Neither does USPSA.

 

[Cpt.America]

....every bullet has a flat trajectory for a some distance...... they all drop eventually...so,

Totally untrue. Every bullet starts to drop the very moment it exits the barrel. Gravity is constant. Unless there is a wind coming from underneath the bullet, it is always dropping.

 

[GP4L]

I can definitely see the military allure, but why would want to buy a "military allure" handgun that lost to the trial? There's no allure in

I wonder if Sig's >$100 million dollar underbid had anything to do with Glock "losing" the MHS trial, before the trial was completed.....

Anyways, I believe there is "real" allure with the 19X. It's a "commander" type of firearm from Glock. People that are into that style of firearm for whatever function/form reasons will buy it, and should. After all it's still a Glock - aside from folks dealing with operator headspace issues, you really can't go wrong buying a Glock firearm. I think it was a really smart move on Glock to offer it to the public - at least recover the cash spent on the MHS trials, but probably end up turning a massive ROI.

It's not exactly rocket science to figure out where this "crossover" line is probably going - the all black 19X next - probably with gen 5 style flared magwell, then a 17X (17 slide, 19 grip) and maybe a 26X (26 slide, 19 grip). Unless people don't like more options, I think it would be cool to see more crossovers straight from Glock.

 

[Wetrudgeon]

For our part, we have long considered it silly and immature to purchase multiple copies and variations of the same Glock design. We bought a G17 many years ago and it is perfectly adequate for our needs. We have never had the slightest inclination to spend more hard earned $$$ buying additional variations of the same handgun.

Except, of course, for our G36 we bought for enhanced convenience of concealed carry. We consider the G36 just about the ideal combination of easy-to-hide power for carry when mode of dress does not easily accommodate our G17. These two pistols have perfectly answerd all our handgun, needs and we have never been interested in pointlessly purchasing others.

Well, there is also our G21 we purchased. Found a great deal on a used Gen 3 police trade-in and always thought the G21 (although too large to conveniently carry) with 13+1 of .45 ACP is about as good as it gets for a home defense, SHTF, handgun. It is a terrific pistol. We these fine Glocks, however, we permanently dismissed the desire to purchase others.

Until our G30S. In our mind, this small pistol holding 10 rounds of .45 ACP generally trumps all for a convenient yet formidable concealed carry handgun. We felt we had to have one of these when they were introduced in order to provide regular relief breaks for the G36; and the G30S has fully met expectations. But that was it, finally. Let the "more Glocks is better" fanboys rage. With these, we knew we were done once and for all purchasing more Glocks.

But then came the G43. The extra convenience of such a small yet good shooting 9mm pistol was impossible to overlook. We anticipated it would be great for hot weather carry; and we fetched a copy of the G43 home. It has not disappointed. We have been very happy with its performance. With it, we had absolutely no need for additional Glocks.

We are now advised of advent of this new G19X. As others have suggested, the G19X passes for a "Commander" size Glock. Interesting variant indeed. The more we read about the G19X the more we are convinced that we simply must own one of these to round out our modest collection.

But this G19X WILL be the last Glock we will purchase.

Ever.

And that is that.

With that said, wonder what Glock is planning to introduce next year...

We trudge on (in denial).

 

[Sparky5019]

For our part, we have long considered it silly and immature to purchase multiple copies and variations of the same Glock design. We bought a G17 many years ago and it is perfectly adequate for our needs. We have never had the slightest inclination to spend more hard earned $$$ buying additional variations of the same handgun.

Except, of course, for our G36 we bought for enhanced convenience of concealed carry. We consider the G36 just about the ideal combination of easy-to-hide power for carry when mode of dress does not easily accommodate our G17. These two pistols have perfectly answerd all our handgun, needs and we have never been interested in pointlessly purchasing others.

Well, there is also our G21 we purchased. Found a great deal on a used Gen 3 police trade-in and always thought the G21 (although too large to conveniently carry) with 13+1 of .45 ACP is about as good as it gets for a home defense, SHTF, handgun. It is a terrific pistol. We these fine Glocks, however, we permanently dismissed the desire to purchase others.

Until our G30S. In our mind, this small pistol holding 10 rounds of .45 ACP generally trumps all for a convenient yet formidable concealed carry handgun. We felt we had to have one of these when they were introduced in order to provide regular relief breaks for the G36; and the G30S has fully met expectations. But that was it, finally. Let the "more Glocks is better" fanboys rage. With these, we knew we were done once and for all purchasing more Glocks.

But then came the G43. The extra convenience of such a small yet good shooting 9mm pistol was impossible to overlook. We anticipated it would be great for hot weather carry; and we fetched a copy of the G43 home. It has not disappointed. We have been very happy with its performance. With it, we had absolutely no need for additional Glocks.

We are now advised of advent of this new G19X. As others have suggested, the G19X passes for a "Commander" size Glock. Interesting variant indeed. The more we read about the G19X the more we are convinced that we simply must own one of these to round out our modest collection.

But this G19X WILL be the last Glock we will purchase.

Ever.

And that is that.

With that said, wonder what Glock is planning to introduce next year...

We trudge on (in denial).

Lol. We concur.


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[Bren]

IDPA doesn't require a reload during a string of fire. Neither does USPSA.

Then you have never shot either. You'll be hard pressed to find any stages that don't require reloads and the IDPA reloading rules have been a major controversy for many years.

The only way your statement could be true is if you made up your own meaning for what I said and you are arguing that an IDPA or USPSA stage is not required, by the rules, to include a reload (even though nearly every one does). I figured it was obvious what I was saying - there are no reloads on the clock in GSSF, there are in IDPA and USPSA.

 

[R.P.]

All this has been a GREAT read...
That said...

And while I was there lol

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[t4terrific]

Totally untrue. Every bullet starts to drop the very moment it exits the barrel. Gravity is constant. Unless there is a wind coming from underneath the bullet, it is always dropping.

The bullet climbs a little before dropping.

 

[Eric2340]

I'll be totally honest with all of you, I was NOT going to respond to this thread again as I felt I made my original point and asked some fair questions in my initial post, without being judgemental and being careful for not coming off as criticizing other's opinions and choices, or stating my own against theirs.

So much for that............................


For those of you I have upset or felt I was "just trolling" I absouletly apologize and that was never my intention. I honestly wanted to know the appeal of this design (honestly more so from the military's side than any individual) as I did not get it, and wanted just to understand it more than anything else? Seems like I was not alone.................

For those upset that was never my intent. I can also tell you that in almost 20 years of being in online discussion boards I don't near get as upset about things so trivial as I once did and I advise you to do the same, so get over it. I also noticed that most remarks such as "because I can" came from those who are either recent members or have very low message counts so far, and are about the same remarks as I get from my twin 12 year olds. I also usually find their experience with firearms, using and handing them in the real world about the same as those responded as such.

I will say this, regardless of open, concealed or formal/uniform carry, I handgun with a larger grip height/length is harder to move around with one way or another. If you don't agree then stick a 33 round G18 mag in any 9mm Glock and get back to me.......................


All that said, I DID find there were MORE people who responded as I did with "I don't get it either?" and either had not had the chance to ask so themselves yet either, or wanted to better understand the thinking (both the military's and Glock's also) behind this. I was surprised by this and to also (at least for me) wanted to make sure there was not something big I was missing?

There have been a couple of excellent responses that I truly appreciate like # 24 where the poster honestly made some valid points that made sense that I did not understand. Thank you. The largest point that still seems to make the most sense to me seems to be if the G19's "hump" bothers you and you prefer G17's grip? I DON'T know if that is fixable with the switchable backstraps of the Gen 4 and later guns (?) but if does not, then I get it. That or if you simply have larger paws and the larger grip fits you better while you still want the shorter upper, then whatever floats YOUR boat then.

In closing I don't intend to continue to comment on this or have it turn into a flame war over something so silly. If you like it, great - tear it up, I never once said it was stupid, don't buy it, or even stated how I HONESTLY feel or what "I" would prefer for that matter and I won't. Again in all these years of being online and also after close to 50 years of living I've found that most peoples opinions are like arse-holes, most people's stink to what the think their own does.


PS - FACT - the 1911 Commander is a LOT closer in size (now pay close attention to the next two words please!!) RATIO WISE to the traditional G19 than the G17 is.

The G34/35 platform is about the same size (again ) "ratio wise" to the traditional true 5" 1911 platform. The G17 lies more in the middle between a full size 1911 and Commander than anything else (ratio wise ).



I shall now light my soap box on fire and excuse myself, as I find my Jim Beam and Coke is getting low now also................. LOL

 

[K Dubya]

The bullet climbs a little before dropping.

No, it does not. A fired bullet will never travel above the bore's axis. As someone else stated, a bullet begins dropping the moment it leaves the barrel. The amount it drops, say over the first 5 yards or so, may be imperceptible. But it's dropping nonetheless.

Keeping an open mind, I'd be interested to hear how you quantify "a little". Inches? Centimeters? Millimeters?

 

[The Viking]

Because manual safeties on a striker fired guns make about as much sense as lips on a chicken and they don't belong on a Glock. That was a smart move on Glock's part and that's why they'll sell so many of these guns.

Now if they'd just make the gun in Black.

Hogwash. They put one for the military. FNC puts safeties on theirs and so does Smith and Wesson. People are not infallible so a safety helps. Stops Glock leg, which is legion, and makes holstering a striker fired pistol much safer. Glock is simply afraid to put a safety on their pistol for commercial consumption and police forces. The liability minded public lawyers would be insisting all police carry Glocks with safeties and the police sales of the non safety Glocks would tank. In the beginning Glock settled every case brought before it for safety out of court. Glock is both afraid and non innovative. Putting a 19 slide on a 17 frame is simply easily creating a hybrid to milk more suckers.

 

[Teecher45]

I’ll be waiting on the 17 (WTH is the opposite of X?) okay let’s call it the 17S (for shorty). A 17 slide on a 19 frame.
Or maybe a 26S,
19 slide on a 26 frame.
For me, the perfect CC Glock would be a 19 slide w/ a 26 frame, with a 12 round mag.
Yes, I know it can be done. I keep thinking about sending a 19 to CBC’s.


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