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Walther PPQ M1 or M2

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#1 ·
I did a search and really couldn't find a thread specifically on the PPQ in either M1 or M2 flavor. So, figured I'd start one.

I traded for a PPQ M2 9mm in Tungsten Gray with Trijicon HD night sights and three mags (1x17 and 2x15) about six months ago. After the first range session I was considerably impressed. A lot of chatter on the net was that it was the best out-of-the-box striker fired trigger and I have to say that it lived up to the hype. Very smooth and crisp with a very quick reset. Very pleasant to shoot.

I particularly like the Trijicon HD sights and this was my first experience with that particular type of night sight. Since then I've gotten them with on my off-duty Glock 26. I prefer the orange front over the yellow.

The PPQ M2 is now pulling duty as my night stand firearm with 124+P GD.
 
#11 ·
It's surprising you couldn't fine a review of the Walther PPQ, many have been written on this forum with comparisons to other similar guns.
There were several comparison threads, usually of the PPQ vs. the Glock 19 variety. But nothing specifically for the PPQ in-and-of-itself. So figured it deserved one.

I like Glock. Use a Glock 21 on duty and carry a Glock 26 off duty. Been carrying a Glock of some type now for over 20 years. Having said that, I like the Walther PPQ better in terms of ergonomics. It has finger grooves but they are subtle. The finger grooves on Gen 3/4 Glocks don't fit my hand right and I usually get a slip on grip that fills them in. Don't 'hate' them, but they don't work for me. The grooves on the PPQ are subtle enough to be very comfortable yet give me a very good purchase on the gun. I like the texturing as well and the back straps are a nice feature.

I like a slide with serrations at the front and back. It isn't a deal-breaker if they don't have front serrations but it's a preference for the slide to have them.

I have the M2 but would not be opposed to the M1. I like the paddle release but I'm use to the grip button. For me, a firearm is a duty/off duty self defense tool. So I prefer to go with platforms that I have the most experience with so that under stress I'm not at a disadvantage. If most/all of my experience was with the paddle release I would prefer it but since most of my firearms have had the button I go with that. Like them both though.
 
#10 ·
I have the PPQ in both the M1 paddle release and the M2 with a button release. I prefer the paddle.

I also find that I like the long and thinner paddle release of the Walther PPQ better than the short thick paddle release of my VP9. I hit the Walther paddle with my trigger finger and find it slightly faster than the button release. For me.

Regardless of which release you have the PPQ is a very nice striker handgun.
 
#16 ·
I have the PPQ in both the M1 paddle release and the M2 with a button release. I prefer the paddle.

I also find that I like the long and thinner paddle release of the Walther PPQ better than the short thick paddle release of my VP9. I hit the Walther paddle with my trigger finger and find it slightly faster than the button release. For me.

Regardless of which release you have the PPQ is a very nice striker handgun.
I agree about preferring the Walther paddle release over the HK. For me the reason is on my P30SK I have actually released the magazine during firing because my trigger finger could touch the magazine release and under recoil could cause magazine to release. I posted this on HK forum and a few others had experienced that also with various HKs. For me I believe the reason was I had a minor injury on my trigger finger and because of that was using more finger on the trigger than I usually do. Still it was disconcerting. I doubt anyone would experience such with the VP9 because the trigger breaks much farther forward than on the P30 and some other hammer fired HKs.
 
#15 · (Edited)
I'm a huge fan of the PPQ. I have had both M1 and M2 versions and by far prefer the M1 paddles as well. Currently I do not own one, I let my M1 go and have been kicking myself ever since.

Not too long ago, Walther announced their First Responder Program, which has both the M1 and M2 on it. For the price they are going for, I have seriously thought about picking up another M1.

http://www.waltherarms.com/iop/?utm_source=Officer.com+Badge+Mailing+3rd+Party&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=CPS171019011&o_eid=8443B5994623G5R&rdx.ident[pull]=omeda|8443B5994623G5R

TXPO
 
#18 ·
I have a 4" PPQ M2, it's an outstanding firearm, and one of my favorite carry guns. Ergos are excellent, second only to my CZ P01 Omega and just a bit better than my P320 compact or carry.

The PPQ trigger is also one of the best out of the box triggers you can get. And I really liked how easy it was for me to swap out the stock 3 dot sights for a set of Trijicon HD's. No special tools or sight pushers required, took me about 20 minutes start to finish.

If you can't tell, it's definitely one of my favorite pistols. :cheers:
 
#20 ·
Anyone have the PPQ in .45acp? It has been tempting me....

I don't like the paddle mag release. I have been hitting mag release buttons for 30 years, and I can guarantee I would try to hit a button on an M1 PPQ.
Yep. Like I mentioned above, I'm fine with either as far as the gun goes in-and-of-itself. But from a carry/use/EDC/self-defense perspective I'll go with what I've trained with all these years. Under stress/duress a person will revert to the may they've trained. I liked the paddles on my HK's but in truth the button is the way to go for me for realistic day-to-day carry/use. If I had 30+ years of experience on paddle releases I'd have those on all my guns.
 
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#21 ·
Preview of gallery image.

My PPQ M2 in 9mm. It is Tungsten Grey. Not sure how well it shows up in the pic but it's quite sharp imo.
 
#22 ·
In a twist of irony I suppose, traded (a Sig) for a almost brand new HK VP9SK yesterday. So now I have the paddle release again.

Well, just means I'll have some fun training it! :)
 
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#23 ·
I'm reviving this thread...

Other than the paddle vs button magazine release, are there any other differences between the M1 and M2? I read on walther forum there were some different slide cuts / angles on the M2 ejection port and the barrel was polygonal rifled in later PPQs instead of cut rifling, however I couldn't find anything that I felt was verifiable information. If anyone has this info I'd greatly appreciate it. Seems most people focus on the magazine release and that's it. Maybe that is the only difference. Thanks.
 
#24 ·
I did a search and really couldn't find a thread specifically on the PPQ in either M1 or M2 flavor. So, figured I'd start one.

I traded for a PPQ M2 9mm in Tungsten Gray with Trijicon HD night sights and three mags (1x17 and 2x15) about six months ago. After the first range session I was considerably impressed. A lot of chatter on the net was that it was the best out-of-the-box striker fired trigger and I have to say that it lived up to the hype. Very smooth and crisp with a very quick reset. Very pleasant to shoot.

I particularly like the Trijicon HD sights and this was my first experience with that particular type of night sight. Since then I've gotten them with on my off-duty Glock 26. I prefer the orange front over the yellow.

The PPQ M2 is now pulling duty as my night stand firearm with 124+P GD.
Don't forget about the p99 as. Love the paddle release and goes good with my pps gen.1.
 
#26 ·
I was more of a VP9 fan versus the PPQ M1 and I sold the PPQ pretty quickly after shooting the VP9 as the HK shot better for me and seemed better quality. Eventually I sold the VP9 as well. I then picked up a M2 and took it to the range. The first mag I put through the pistol, the mag dropped out half way through. I thought maybe I didn't insert it all the way. A couple mags later it did the same thing. Unfortunately my thumb would ride the mag release while shooting. Sold it right quick after that. For me the M1 was a better choice but that too wasn't very solid looking back.