[Rustin]

I'm conflicted about replacing my 24/7-on-my-person-at-all-times carry gun, the venerable lcr .38...

I've held both but have not fired either.

The pps fits my xl hands like a glove. The dimensions are similar between the g43 and pps but the pps feels noticeably larger. Its 3 oz heavier than the 43 which should soften the recoil impulse. I don't like pocket carry so 3 oz is mostly a moot point as far as comfort goes.

The g43 felt tiny. Much better with the extension but still not totally confidence inspiring. I'm sure this can be mitigated but its worth mentioning.

Pps m2 suffers from a severe lack of aftermarket accessories. Might not be a deal killer but the g43 has upgradable trigger options, mag extensions, holsters, sights, etc... Maybe a g43 with a +1 or two and a flat trigger would be optimal..

If any of you have fired both, and this goes for the m1 classic pps as well, how did they compare? Was the recoil noticeably stiffer with the g43? Are there any other differences I'm not considering?

I absolutely love the striker indicator on the pps series. It makes re-holstering much safer and should be mandatory on all striker fired pistols.

I'm only deciding between these two pistols. I'm not a fan of the shield, xds, etc...

Thanks for your time.

 

[MD357]

I'm conflicted about replacing my 24/7-on-my-person-at-all-times carry gun, the venerable lcr .38...

I've held both but have not fired either.

The pps fits my xl hands like a glove. The dimensions are similar between the g43 and pps but the pps feels noticeably larger. Its 3 oz heavier than the 43 which should soften the recoil impulse. I don't like pocket carry so 3 oz is mostly a moot point as far as comfort goes.

The g43 felt tiny. Much better with the extension but still not totally confidence inspiring. I'm sure this can be mitigated but its worth mentioning.

Pps m2 suffers from a severe lack of aftermarket accessories. Might not be a deal killer but the g43 has upgradable trigger options, mag extensions, holsters, sights, etc... Maybe a g43 with a +1 or two and a flat trigger would be optimal..

If any of you have fired both, and this goes for the m1 classic pps as well, how did they compare? Was the recoil noticeably stiffer with the g43? Are there any other differences I'm not considering?

I absolutely love the striker indicator on the pps series. It makes re-holstering much safer and should be mandatory on all striker fired pistols.

I'm only deciding between these two pistols. I'm not a fan of the shield, xds, etc...

Thanks for your time.

I have recently bought a PPS M2 but have yet to put it through it's paces as a carry gun. Only have about 200 rounds through it. I does have a nicer stock trigger than any G43, Shield, or XDS of which I tried them all. Accuracy and ergos are great but I'm still comfy with my XDS for now until I get more used the PPS and order a good holster.

Keep in mind.... glocks have an aftermarket because they NEED it.

 

[BuckyP]

Haven't fired a PPS, but the recoil of the G43 is pretty mild in my opinion. The aftermarket options are quite a plus in my opinion.

 

[Cambo]

I have fired a 1st Gen PPS, and while I didn't hate it, I love my 43. It performs nicely at longer ranges, almost keeping pace with my Hi Power and CZs if I slow down and focus. It goes with me everywhere, and I can't say enough good things about it.

 

[Big Bird]

I have both a PPS and a G43. Here's my .02... These small striker fired guns scare me.

In a small lightweight carry gun I want something with a long smooth trigger pull like a revolver, a Kahr or a Beretta Nano or my S&W640

The striker fired guns are so small that for me and my big hands positive trigger control is hard. When I got my G43 I thought the trigger was OK but kind of heavy. Switched it out for a 3.5# Ghost connector and while it made it much nicer in the sense that it was lighter it also made me uneasy after doing a couple dozen drill with it. The gun went off a couple of times when I didn't intend it to. Yes....pointed downrange and everything was fine. Its just that as I was getting ready to engage some targets I took up too much slack and it fired. Surprised me....a bunch. I put the factory connector back in and won't be taking it out again.

With a bigger gun like the G19/17 etc I don't have this issue...as the my control of the weapon is more positive.

I've shot the PPS a bunch and haven't had the same issue but it still bothers me. One thing I will say about the PPS is as it came out of the box the trigger was pretty atrocious. But with just a little shooting it smoothed up and around the 250-300 round point its was perfect.

The magazine base pad configuration on the Walther takes a little getting used to. Its more accurate than my G43 and has less felt recoil IMO.

You also should consider the Springfield XDS which is an excellent little gun and the S&W Shield. Both are in the same class as the G43 and PPS.

I would go with the gun that felt the best in my hands if you are undecided. Otherwise there isn't .02 worth discussing in terms of practical utility between my 43 and PPS. But like I said...these small striker fired guns kinda scare me in terms of controlling them in high stress situations.

 

[ucfgrad93]

I've shot the 43 and found the recoil pretty mild. The PPS has magazine options of 6, 7, or 8 rounds which is very nice. If possible try and get to a range that rents them both to try them.

 

[willieH]

Either will serve you well. Of the two, I like the PPS over a stock G43. After installing trigger connector, sights, grip decal and +1 mag extension the G43 is better suited for my needs.

 

[bac1023]

I really like the G43, personally. The Walther is certainly a great pistol, but I believe the Glock is slightly smaller and lighter.

 

[GregP220]

I have not shot the PPS M2 yet but I have put a couple hundred through an original PPS. My G43 has gone over 3000 rounds without a malfunction and I don't baby it.

Between the original PPS and the G43 ~ I'm very happy I purchased the G43. If the M2 had been out I might have had to shoot them both to decide, so....

Find a range that rents both and let your experience guide you. Or buy both and sell the one you like the least - this should be pretty easy as both guns are in demand.

Good luck.

 

[sns3guppy]

I don't own a PPS: I have several PPQ's, and they're well made, reliable, quality polymer pistols.

I do own a G43, and have carried it quite a bit since I got it last year, and have put about fifteen hundred rounds through it without a problem. The G43 would be one of my first choices for a light concealable pistol.

The G33 would be my next choice.

 

[jp3975]

If im not mistaken, the old style pps sale for a bit over $300 since the new style came out.

Id probably go with it.

 

[bac1023]

If im not mistaken, the old style pps sale for a bit over $300 since the new style came out.

Id probably go with it.

Its amazing how much cheaper they are now as compared to a couple years back...

Competition is a good thing.

 

[Rustin]

Great pics willie, thank you for your input.

I'm leaning more towards the Glock for all the reasons that have compelled me to stick with them thus far.

My problem is that I'm always seeking the 1 gun option. I want something that shoots and feels like a full sized gun. The g26 fits this role better than anything else out there but it doesn't work for me as a 24/7 gun.

The g43 will be my bug and npe carry so it doesn't need to be the 1 gun. I'll get a 26 eventually and my 17 is going to stick around. Either way it'll blow my lcr out of the water so I'll be content.

Sometimes a deep cover gun is just a deep cover gun.

 

[ithaca_deerslayer]

I absolutely love the striker indicator on the pps series. It makes re-holstering much safer and should be mandatory on all striker fired pistols.

I don't know anything about the PPS. How does the indicator make it safer for re-holstering?

 

[Scrappy]

If your worried about an indicator to help you safely re-holster maybe you should not carry. Its like people who carry without one in the chamber, why bother to carry?
The PPS M2 is a nice gun. It does not have the PPQ type trigger though and Im not talking about pull weight.
The downside is the aftermarket world.
If your a Glock guy the G43 would fit the bill with an aftermarket world.
I really dont know why the Shield is not on your list as its an awesome gun and the cheapest of the bunch and lot less recoil then the G43
Pretty accurate too
https://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=A2KLqIUBCutWVB0AOI0snIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTByN2RnbHFoBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDdmlkBHZ0aWQDBGdwb3MDMw--?p=mp+shield+accuracy&vid=c1ee791b806122ca1691c197ca2ee02a&turl=http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OVP.V60f0090f347075840bc92ab7c9b7c635&pid=15.1&h=168&w=300&c=7&rs=1&rurl=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5Yxay8Krr0&tit=M&P+Shield+Accuracy&c=2&h=168&w=300&l=769&sigr=11bkg9u1a&sigt=10j42s752&sigi=131aroert&age=1338054960&fr2=p:s,v:v&fr=ytff1-tyc&hsimp=yhs-006&hspart=mozilla&tt=b

 

[Rustin]

If your worried about an indicator to help you safely re-holster maybe you should not carry. Its like people who carry without one in the chamber, why bother to carry?
The PPS M2 is a nice gun. It does not have the PPQ type trigger though and Im not talking about pull weight.
The downside is the aftermarket world.
If your a Glock guy the G43 would fit the bill with an aftermarket world.
I really dont know why the Shield is not on your list as its an awesome gun and the cheapest of the bunch and lot less recoil then the G43
Pretty accurate too
https://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=A2KLqIUBCutWVB0AOI0snIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTByN2RnbHFoBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDdmlkBHZ0aWQDBGdwb3MDMw--?p=mp+shield+accuracy&vid=c1ee791b806122ca1691c197ca2ee02a&turl=http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OVP.V60f0090f347075840bc92ab7c9b7c635&pid=15.1&h=168&w=300&c=7&rs=1&rurl=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5Yxay8Krr0&tit=M&P+Shield+Accuracy&c=2&h=168&w=300&l=769&sigr=11bkg9u1a&sigt=10j42s752&sigi=131aroert&age=1338054960&fr2=p:s,v:v&fr=ytff1-tyc&hsimp=yhs-006&hspart=mozilla&tt=b

I never stated I was worried about reholstering. It's simply an unobtrusive, extra layer of security. No thumb safety, no decocker, just a little tab that protrudes when the trigger is pressed. SOP for any hammer fired gun is to put your thumb over the hammer when reholstering. Just like "the gadget" that Todd Green designed.

I simply don't really like the shield. It's gonna need a trigger so price is moot. Nothing wrong with the gun, its just not my cup.

 

[Scrappy]

The shield doesnt need a trigger its lighter then G43 Ive tried. But to make it lighter a couple Apex parts and its great! Everyone *****es about how heavy the G43 trigger is

 

[Rustin]

I don't know anything about the PPS. How does the indicator make it safer for re-holstering?

Maybe you've heard of "the gadget" for Glocks?

It's similar. Essentially, a small tab (picture the rear end of a striker)will slightly protrude from the rear of the slide with every trigger pull. If you press your thumb firmly on the indicator and attempt to press the trigger, it will not yield. For instance, if a shirt inadvertently got into the trigger guard while reholstering you would feel the striker indicator poking out, potentially avoiding the notorious "Glock" leg. I don't see any reason as to why its not a standard feature on striker fired guns.

It isn't in the way at all and if I could imagine a large portion of pps owners aren't evene aware it exists.

Kind of like a da gun, thumb on the hammer when reholstering.

I'll get "the gadget" when it comes out for the glocks.

 

[ithaca_deerslayer]

Maybe you've heard of "the gadget" for Glocks?

It's similar. Essentially, a small tab (picture the rear end of a striker)will slightly protrude from the rear of the slide with every trigger pull. If you press your thumb firmly on the indicator and attempt to press the trigger, it will not yield. For instance, if a shirt inadvertently got into the trigger guard while reholstering you would feel the striker indicator poking out, potentially avoiding the notorious "Glock" leg. I don't see any reason as to why its not a standard feature on striker fired guns.

It isn't in the way at all and if I could imagine a large portion of pps owners aren't evene aware it exists.

Kind of like a da gun, thumb on the hammer when reholstering.

I'll get "the gadget" when it comes out for the glocks.

Interesting. Thanks for the description.

There are probably pluses and minuses to it, but you have explained it well

 

[DaBurna]

I own both a PPS M1 & M2... I can shoot the PPS a little better than I can the Glock 43 b/c of the little bit of extra weight... But all are good pistols. I've actually think the Glock 43 is a better deal b/c of the aftermarket support, but I like my Walthers as well...