[gregshin]

I was wondering if anyone has polished their OEM 3.5 minus connector here?

Did you feel like the the trigger was too light? What kind of trigger pull weight did you get from it?

I have the standard 5.5 on my gen3's but i feel l like i want to lighten my pull without feeling mushy.

 

[Bren]

I was wondering if anyone has polished their OEM 3.5 minus connector here?

Did you feel like the the trigger was too light? What kind of trigger pull weight did you get from it?

I have the standard 5.5 on my gen3's but i feel l like i want to lighten my pull without feeling mushy.

You can't change to a connector with a longer, shallower slope for the trigger bar to follow and expect it not to be mushy.

 

[Mike-M]

FWIW, there has never been a Glock OEM "3.5-lbf" connector. Glock erroneously called the MINUS connector that, but years ago corrected the grossly misleading rating to the connector's real value of 4.5-lbf. That is the peak pull it will produce in an all-OEM PRE-GEN4 Glock. In a GEN4 OEM Glock it produces 5.0-lbf.

To get any lower pull, parts must be installed that Glock has never made and certainly does not recommend because they ALWAYS reduce functional reliability: A reduced-strength firing pin spring and/or an increased-strength trigger spring.

 

[robhic]

I have made it standard practice to polish ALL metal-to-metal interfaces (connector included) when I first get a new pistol. NOT A LOT!. I do it by hand with polishing compound and a Q-Tip so as not to go too far into the metal. Smooth and shiny and STOP.

I used the minus connector and the NY1 spring (Glock approved) not to lighten the trigger but that keeps it at 5-6 # while giving you a plastic almost unbreakable trigger spring. Which I liked the thought of. I don't see how you could hurt anything if you polished lightly and carefully, IMO.

 

[Rocky7]

I was wondering if anyone has polished their OEM 3.5 minus connector here?

Did you feel like the the trigger was too light? What kind of trigger pull weight did you get from it?

I have the standard 5.5 on my gen3's but i feel l like i want to lighten my pull without feeling mushy.

Using Flitz, a variable speed Dremel and felt wheel, I have polished probably over 25 minus connectors. Taking trigger pull measurements after polishing 10 pulls yielded about a (4) ounce difference. The connector from std. to minus about 8 ounces total.
A 6.0# trigger was around 5.0#, after use and fry fire around 2k rounds, triggers usually settle in at 4.5#.

To lower the pull further as others have stated, the striker spring, trigger spring and safety plunger spring are usually addressed.

Ps the mush you and others describe relates to the travel you experience with the minus connector and its angle that allows for that travel. In having a distinct bridge where you are aware of no more travel can be experienced is what you have. I would not confuse yourself with the lighter connector, the travel with the lighter pull should only be for those that have learned to shoot with it with proper technique.

 

[sciolist]

After stoning, adjusting connector bend angle and polishing, my match triggers with OE minus connectors are about #2.0, measured with a Wheeler scale applied 1/4" above the bottom of the trigger, pulled normal to the frame. Obviously that's way too light for carry. I've done a few at #2.5, and have grown to like the lighter ones better. It's important (to me, at least) for them to be consistent between match and practice guns, though.

The triggers in my carry guns are about #4.0, measured as noted above. They are basically just worn in from shooting, polished and also have OE minus connectors.

Removing pre-travel from the match triggers makes a big difference in feel, but of course not in pull weight.

 

[gregshin]

thanks for all the replies...i don't mind pretravel i just had that feeling of a vague mushy trigger. Not knowing where the "wall" is.

My goal is to have a lighter crisper trigger with a better reset using factory OEM parts. I plan on polishing the bar, plunger, and connector and trying to find a shorter reset with OEM springs.

 

[Rocky7]

thanks for all the replies...i don't mind pretravel i just had that feeling of a vague mushy trigger. Not knowing where the "wall" is.

My goal is to have a lighter crisper trigger with a better reset using factory OEM parts. I plan on polishing the bar, plunger, and connector and trying to find a shorter reset with OEM springs.

Shooting from reset will be realized easier with the std. connector, the minus connector may surprise you before you realize the wall. There are aftermarket springs that address the lighter results you indicate, but what you see is what you get on the springs from Glock.

Anything that physically removes material as honing or bending the connector, removes you from stock class in GSSF. This last point may be moot, I do see many though that get around to the issue that decide to participate.

Ps I do use the minus connector and DO use aftermarket springs when not shooting GSSF. My triggers come in at just under 4.0# and finish out at about 3.5# after breakin. I do not shoot from reset with this trigger.

 

[g26own]

It didn't lighten my pull, but it felt less gritty. May just be a placebo though YMMV.

 

[Rocky7]

Probably more information than what was asked for?

 

[Pilot172]

In my G19 gen 4, the dot connector is right at 5.5 lbs and the minus connector I put in dropped it to 5.0 lbs. Both polished. The minus has a little more mush to it of course. Not sure which one I like better yet.

 

[jb1911]

My G43 has a Ghost drop-in connector. Did the trigger job and the pull went from just over 7lbs stock to just under 5lbs. It's not as crisp, but I shoot better with the mush. Maybe I'm weird?

 

[Bren]

My G43 has a Ghost drop-in connector. Did the trigger job and the pull went from just over 7lbs stock to just under 5lbs. It's not as crisp, but I shoot better with the mush. Maybe I'm weird?

Or you are pulling the trigger all the way through it's range of travel for each shot. If that is the case, the lighter trigger will help, but a better trigger technique would help more.

 

[BADOS]

Use 3.5 (4.5) connector on all my Glocks. I have a local smith do the install and have him polish the metal parts. Guns shoot silky smooth and you can feel the lighter pull of the trigger.

 

[harold63]

Mine are polished, yes, and it makes the pull lighter, but you need to polish all the ignition part friction surfaces to get the full weight reduction. Just polishing the connector will only get you so much. All I feel on my 4.5lb connector Glocks is a very smooth, 1/2" long pull that averages around 4lbs, 12oz. They averaged just over 6 OTB, so I know for sure polishing everything reduces pull weight, and I use a pig iron guage. 'Mushy' isn't how I would describe my triggers.

 

[SouthernBoyVA]

I have polished the contacting metal parts on all of my Glocks. I have also installed the 3.5 Glock connector*, G17/22 trigger bars in the compact Glocks (to get the smooth faced trigger), 6-pound trigger springs, and contoured the drop safety on the trigger to match the contour of the trigger itself. My goal is to have all of this pistols return as close to a 5-pound trigger pull as possible. A few are a little over 5 pounds and a few come in under that pull weight. Two of my gen3 Glocks, a 19 and a 23, do not have mushy triggers, instead they have a nice crisp break... luck of the draw I suspect.

Every Glock I have owned varies in its trigger feel and pull weight and not one has measured what was labeled on the box. One took a lot of work and trial and error to arrive at a decent trigger (my gen4 G17).

* Yes, I know Glock has been referring to its '-' connector as a 4.5 connector for several years now.

 

[Paul53]

It's total blasphemy to change any internal Glock parts! You'll bring endless shame upon your family, strangers will point and laugh at you, and you will get the death penalty if anybody in your family so much as looks at a police officer!

If you can tolerate that, check out UTube videos about the Ghost Edge connector. Put one in my gen 4 19, replacing the stock "." connector. Pull dropped from 5.5 pounds to 5 pounds. More importantly, the trigger has a much better feel, and no wall during the pull. IMHO, all Glock triggers should feel this good.

 

[jb1911]

Or you are pulling the trigger all the way through it's range of travel for each shot. If that is the case, the lighter trigger will help, but a better trigger technique would help more.

I didn't say I was having trouble with accuracy, in fact I shoot the 43 really well.

 

[mvmojo]

After stoning, adjusting connector bend angle and polishing,

Would you describe what you stone and how you adjust the connector bend angle?? Thanks

 

[sciolist]

Would you describe what you stone and how you adjust the connector bend angle?? Thanks

On the connector angle, all the OE's I've installed had about a connector's thickness of gap between their inner surface and the upper outside face of the housing. The connector will function reliably as long as its outer surface is proud of the housing. So for a match trigger, I reduce the bend.

Most of the stoning I do is to true up all the contact surfaces. I don't do much in the way of changing geometries, although there is a lot that can be done. I do the outside face of the bar that rides on frame ribs, inside and outside face of beak, connector/bar surfaces and FP contact surfaces.

On match triggers, I'm looking for about a #2.0 pull, smooth operation, defined reset, almost all pre/post travel removed, and 100% reliability. I avoid complex tweaking. My approach is modular and highly repeatable. It gives me what I want with minimal effort and no aftermarket parts other than springs. When something breaks or wears out, I can restore the gun quickly - including at the range or during a match.