For best ejection consistency.
: Dipped extractor/Glock
: Non dip extractor/Glock
: lone wolf
: Apex tactical extractor
: Dipped extractor/Glock
: Non dip extractor/Glock
: lone wolf
: Apex tactical extractor
Best Glock extractor?
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Almost... I do know this, for a fact, that Older glocks 2009 and older with the investment cast parts, never had these ejection problems, until Glock started using MIM parts. Even to this very day, you still have people complaining about BTF/ erratic ejection. I asked about different ejectors, because coming across a older Glock, you can switch parts out with, is becoming harder and harder.
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Bandaid or not, it 100% stopped the erratic ejection for me. I also have a 2009 Gen 3 19 that has been flawless for thousands of rounds. What's your point? Changing parts is changing parts. I was happy to at least keep OEM parts in mine and have the problem go away.
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My point is I have owned and sold two Glock 19 gen 3, because brass was hitting me in the face. Both guns were 2012 and 2013, both had new "bandaid" ejector/new MIM extractor. The older 19 I have, 2009 never did that.
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I wonder when Bren will be along to tell the OP his grip sucks.
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Well for you the problem was obviously the extractor. For me it was the ejector as my problem didn't partially go away with the new ejector, it went away completely. Sounds like a fix rather than a bandaid.
And please stop throwing the term MIM around like it is some inferior process. You are aware it is used in airplanes, cars, medical equipment, as well as a whole host of other metal parts aside from usage in firearms right? It's use has grown tremendously since its creation in the late 70's. It is different than what people are used to and people are naturally resistant to change. You do know back in the early 80's people scoffed at the idea of a pistol designed with a polymer frame also, right? They said it would never last and longevity would be terrible. I doubt any explanation is necessary on how wrong that statement was.
Glock's quality control has declined in recent years. Don't blame MIM, blame Glock.
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You're right. MIM is a great process, when the molds are made correct. You are also correct, when you say glocks QC had seen slipping. Just makes me wonder why they changed to begin with, specifically the finish and the internals, when nothing was wrong and they ran great for decades. Who knows.
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It's not the gun it's your grip.... Haha
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How is that apex? Thinking of getting a few
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I have no answer as to why the change, but what confuses me is how a company so well known for their pristine reputation of reliability under even the worst conditions has allowed problem pistols to leave the factory again and again. The last couple years has been a dark stain on an otherwise impeccable record of quality with the exception of a few notable issues like the Gen 2 6 part upgrade from the early 90's. I also find it impossible to believe that a company with the means to machine all of their own parts can't figure out why some pistols function erratically. If I were Gaston Glock, heads would be rolling yet the sheer length of time this issue has been going on for makes it appear as if they don't care.
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Couldn't agree more with you're comment. I feel Glock "Perfection" has turned to Glock "Profit" as is clearly seen, when the amount of lesser quality guns is obvious, yet they charge the same price.
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You might notice that problems seem much more prevalent since crowd reporting has been in operation. There were a lot of problems with early Glocks aside from the six part upgrade. Weak frames that required reinforcing and chambers drilled out of line with barrels to name a couple.
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Not sure how the Apex extractor changed my grip, but spent shells used to fly anywhere in a 45 degree arc from straight back to off to my right. Now they fall in an area off to my right consistently, even if I try to limp wrist.
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I was being sarcastic lol
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That has not always been the case. On some G17 (serials BB to FE) and some G19 (serials DN to DZ) chambers were drilled out of line. Now, however, chambers are hammered in as part of hammer forging the barrel.
I only get BTF like 1 in every 500rds, BUT this may sound weird, but the EXTRACTOR doesn't seem to stick out as far as it used to with a round in the chamber--it's MUCH harder to just feel for it now. Since I like having extra parts, I'm thinking of buying the APEX just because I hear it's non-MIM (not that I'm a metallurgist and/or know if it matters) and I'm hoping it sticks out a bit more. Plus most people seem to like it.
The one with the tritium vial (ICSI) probably sticks out pretty far, but I think it's only available for the .40 cal--if they're still even selling it.
The one with the tritium vial (ICSI) probably sticks out pretty far, but I think it's only available for the .40 cal--if they're still even selling it.
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Hmm - my brand new gen4 G19 has a claw more like the top one, with the right angle where the cartridge rim fits. Don't know if it's MIM or not and haven't fired it enough to say how well it works, but no problems through 400 rounds.
edit: I first wrote bottom picture when I meant top - it's right now.
edit: I first wrote bottom picture when I meant top - it's right now.
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