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So in light of the new G43, I was thinking it would be cool to see Glock update the G36 to match the design of the G42 and G43. A little less bulk and better grip texturing, and I would be very interested in one. I've got a G42 that works great and I love it for pocket carry. I also have a G30 Gen4 that is slowly replacing my G19 as my favorite pistol. But something slightly thinner chambered in .45 ACP would be great. And I wonder if such a design update might be why we haven't seen a Gen4 G36.

Just something to think about.
 
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Bought a brand new one over 3 years ago. Problems from the start. I'm a 40 year shooter and don't limp wrist. 3 times back to Glock and they finally told me to pick another gun of equal value. Went to the 26 as it fit the holsters I'd bought and I have 2 other 45's anyway. I loved it when it worked, but you know you're shooting a gun when you shoot it. Best of luck to you. Maybe they've made some of the right changes. First shot.
 
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libarts:
We carry a G36 and consider it about the best we have found for it intended purpose. While we agree that a "remodeled" G36 made slightly smaller/lighter would be more convenient for carry, we wonder if making it smaller/lighter would also begin to reach a point of diminishing returns in "shootability" (may not be in the lexicon, but you know what we mean). The G36 is its current form is already a bit of a little beast in the recoil realm. We don't consider ours any sort of range toy. A smaller lighter pistol chambered in .45ACP would not be gentle or easy to shoot well. Just a thought...

We trudge on.
 
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Never had a problem out of the 36's I've owned. Just didn't care for the low capacity and lack of mag interchangeability. I prefer a 27 to a 36. But I carry a 23 90% of the time on or off.
 
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I wanted to like the 36 too. To me, I'm ok with the size though I believe an update to include a rail is needed. People like lights to see what goes bump in the night. Glock doesn't get single stacks like they do other guns. Magazines make the semi-auto largely what it is. If I was to fix this damn thing, it would have a full three finger grip and a flush fit mag/8 round magazine (think Sig P220 carry). 10 round mags would also be available, just as they are for the P220. Glock makes no extended mags for the single stack 36 or 42. Maybe somebody could give Sig or Springfield a call and give people what they want/need to make this model relevant or just start from scratch. Me, I've got a new 30S and now that's a bad ass pistol, but again, Glock left it to Pearce to complete the grip with the PG-30. That mag base on the 36/30 variants is flat out ridiculous (Glock please see the Springfield magazine sleeves and get it right). And, get it right (magazine/grip sleeves) fr all the other lines as well ie 26/19/17 and the larger 30/21 models. Stop letting Pearce and Xgrip do your damn jobs for you.
 
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Bill Lumberg said:
Never had a problem out of the 36's I've owned. Just didn't care for the low capacity and lack of mag interchangeability. I prefer a 27 to a 36. But I carry a 23 90% of the time on or off.
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The 23 is nearly the perfect pistol. A full three finger grip, larger mag capacity of the 22 available. A big bore caliber in a 19 size frame. Big enough for a uniform cop's duty belt but small enough for concealed carry applications. One of the guns I suggest to my civilian friends is the 27 here in this piece of crap state, California. 10 rounds of a great caliber with factory 10 round mags, easy to conceal, plenty of capacity while being legal and chambered in a respected caliber and unless you're a wimp manageable recoil for range use.
 
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The G36 is about Perfect as is...

A "short frame" version might be nice, and a flush mag option would be appreciated, but as executed, it is an outstanding SD/CCW pistol.

It is a mature platform now, and the few bugaboos it did have don't seem to exist any more. They are as reliable as any other established GLOCK pistol.

They are also extremely precise pistols as well... much more so than my G23's.

If Uncle Gaston could figger out how to get a flush, 6round mag to work reliably... that would be Huge. The short-frame would be a nicity.

I have Two(2) now... of Three owned. All are precise and flawless in operation.

Done.




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There might be some merit in that. OTOH my 36 weighs 23.2 ounces empty with mag and is comfortable to shoot with standard pressure 45s but not +P. Taking more weight off a revision would probably not interest me as I feel the weight is right on the edge of comfort for me.
 
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attrapereves said:
For subcompact handguns, I'd much rather have something in 9mm. Subcompact 45ACP handguns often have low capacity, high recoil, and are unreliable.
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jimmudcatgrant said:
And don't forget low velocity.
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Well...

The 3.8" Bbl. G36, w/ 230 gr. +P ammo, produces standard pressure 4.5-5" 45ACP velocity/energy.

Recoil is very similar to that of the G23/180 gr., as both are 400 lb-ft rounds.

As for reliability? I have yet to experience any operational problems, of ANY kind, w/ Three different G36's and well over a Thousand rounds ea.

In the CCW arena, 6+1 is a lot of ammo, and the G36 is a very precise pistol. Hits count.

Low-pressure/short Bbl. pistols are also good in low-light and confined spaces, w/o hearing protection, which is where most CCW's are used.

If you need something less... the SIG P938 is nice.




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Both G36 models I own have exhibited enough jams to the extent of distrust. Easy to carry and I enjoy shooting them.

6+1 capacity is not an issue with me. Neither is recoil.

Meantime the G30S has essentially kicked the G36 twins to the curb in terms of concealability/ease of carry(it's not that much bigger) and reliability,+4 rounds. The grip size fits me a little better too. It's getting all the holster time now.
 
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Rather than a re-designed G36 I just wish they would make it a Gen 4. The Gen 4 mag release is the biggest single improvement Glock has made to their line since the Gen 2 Models came out, as far as I'm concerned. (smile)

Dave
 
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libarts.tech said:
So in light of the new G43, I was thinking it would be cool to see Glock update the G36 to match the design of the G42 and G43. A little less bulk and better grip texturing, and I would be very interested in one. I've got a G42 that works great and I love it for pocket carry. I also have a G30 Gen4 that is slowly replacing my G19 as my favorite pistol. But something slightly thinner chambered in .45 ACP would be great. And I wonder if such a design update might be why we haven't seen a Gen4 G36.

Just something to think about.
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If Glock introduces another single stack 45ACP, it will be a new model, not a redesign.
 
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