[itstime]

Hello,

Can it be done? I've been looking at them but never played with one yet.

Would I "have" to order the LH bolt or order it lefty?

Every other gun I have is in it's original RH format.

I just don't know with these. Thanks.

 

[Wyoming]

Hello,

Can it be done? I've been looking at them but never played with one yet.

Would I "have" to order the LH bolt or order it lefty?

Every other gun I have is in it's original RH format.

I just don't know with these. Thanks.

Tagged for info also.

 

[Merkavaboy]

Just use your Google-Fu and look for photos showing people shooting bullpup rifles and see just how far up that person's face is on the receiver and where that ejection port is. Think anyone would want to shoot that rifle left-handed? Certain rifles can be converted for us Lefties, but the vast majority of them are for right handed shooting only.

IMO the bullpup rifle is the worst design for the Armed Services or LE in a combat firearm. It limits one's ability to shoot around left hand barracades or when you need to carry your rifle with the muzzle pointed in a right hand direction.

I recall seeing photos of British Servicemen carrying their SA80's in the Low Ready position while walking down the sidewalk with the muzzles pointed into concrete walls and brick street apartments. Not exactly where I want my rifle to be pointed when the enemy comes rolling down the street.

 

[crazymoose]

Haven't tried it with mine yet, but many people seem to say that that Tavor is much more lefty friendly than most bullpups, due to the brass deflector (as long as you don't get your face too far forward on the stock).

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwq0_Zgc7Os"]Military Arms Channel, TAVOR TAR-21 & FateofDestinee @ 2A Shoot - YouTube[/ame]

Toward the end of this video, one is being shot lefty, although it does look like she's getting some brass to the face.

Also, about 20 or so seconds into this one he switches back and forth. And I believe that Tim from MAC is a pretty tall dude, 6'4" or so.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9155MuJcT88"]Tavor - Bullpups Part III - YouTube[/ame]

A conversion setup for your primary shooting side would be best, but it does seem to be ambi-capable in a pinch.

 

[drewcog]

I think they sell a left-handed bolt that converts the rifle to ejecting from the left side of the rifle.

Am not left-handed myself, but am considering a 16" FDE Tavor at some point in the future. Haven't generally been a bull-pup fan, but the Tavor has peaked my interest.

 

[jrs93accord]

There is a Left-Hand Bolt Conversion Kit available through IWI. The owners manual gives step-by-step instructions (pages 39-41) on how to do the conversion. It also states that once the conversion is done, to have a competent gunsmith check the head spacing with "GO" and "NO GO" gauges before it is fired.

The TAVOR is a great weapon system. I love my ARs and would never discredit them, but I have to give credit to IWI and the TAVOR. It is a very robust and accurate weapon. Very easy to operate and has the added benefit of accepting M16/AR15 magazines, although some of the metal USGI mags can have some issues. If you are seriously contemplating on buying one, hesitate no longer. As a lefty-shooter, I would recommend doing the conversion. My little brother, who is also a lefty, was shooting mine recently and was getting slightly grazed by the ejected casing. So, for lefties, it is advisable to get the left-hand conversion done.

 

[tenforme]

How about the Kel Teck RFB as an alternative?

It is fully ambidextrous, ejects its brass forwards and comes in .308

 

[jrs93accord]

How about the Kel Teck RFB as an alternative?

It is fully ambidextrous, ejects its brass forwards and comes in .308

I would not look at the Kel-Tec RFB as an alternative to the TAVOR. They are like apples and oranges. As much as I like and want a RFB, I would have it as an additional .308 weapon, not a alternative to something else. To me, the TAVOR is one of the most innovative and robust weapons ever made.

 

[NeverMore1701]

I would not look at the Kel-Tec RFB as an alternative to the TAVOR. They are like apples and oranges. As much as I like and want a RFB, I would have it as an additional .308 weapon, not a alternative to something else. To me, the TAVOR is one of the most innovative and robust weapons ever made.

I like my Tavor. A lot. That said, it has some obvious shortcomings and only two really standout features going for it.

The good:

It's short. Really, really short. With a full 16" barrel. This translates into better ballistics than my 11.5" AR with shorter overall length.

It's balanced so you can very comfortably maneuver, aim, and fire it with one hand. I can do it with an AR, but it requires more effort and concentration.


The less good:

It's not as accurate as my ARs. Out to 100 yards the difference is pretty minimal when shooting offhand. At 300 it's pretty noticeable. I mostly attribute this to the aforementioned balance. There's no weight out front to keep things steady. It's also not real easy for me to shoot prone, though I'm sure more time with the gun might reduce that particular problem.

Definitely not as easy as an AR to switch strong/weak side on the fly. It can be shot on the off side, but it takes a bit of care to not get your face in the way of the workings. Again, more time with the gun might reduce that problem as well.

The trigger is atrocious, and the current aftermarket options are some combination of completely unreliable, very expensive, and/or not yet available. Hopefully this will change soon

The BUIS, while niftily integrated and included with the rifle, take up a lot of rail space. I don't consider this to be a huge deal, as it's not a gun really suited for a magnified optic, but I'd rather have no rail where the BUIS sit instead of rail space that's unusable without mounting the accessory over the folded sights.


Overall I'm very glad I have, and greatly enjoy shooting it. Were I stuck with only it to defend myself, I wouldn't feel at all unarmed. That said, for most uses, I'd rather one of my ARs.

 

[jrs93accord]

NeverMore1701, I actually like the trigger on the TAVOR. I have had no problem adjusting to it. I can easily switch from the AR to the TAVOR and back with no issues. The TAVOR is designed to endure the rigors of combat environments and the trigger design reflects this. The double spring system ensures the proper reset each and every time. Although the trigger pull is a little heavy as compared to the AR's, it is still smooth. Practice is the main key for a bunch of shooters. Like me, a lot of people have spent years shooting the AR and are use to the 5.5-6 lb. trigger pull. Also, the AR's brass deflector works well enough to deflect the brass away from left-handed shooters, whereas that TAVOR would really need the left-hand conversion done. Something you cannot do to an AR. There are always going to PROs and CONS to any weapon system. You either accept them and adjust or you get rid of the weapon. I would much rather adjust and increase my ability to be proficient with a wide variety of weapons.

 

[NeverMore1701]

NeverMore1701, I actually like the trigger on the TAVOR. I have had no problem adjusting to it. I can easily switch from the AR to the TAVOR and back with no issues. The TAVOR is designed to endure the rigors of combat environments and the trigger design reflects this. The double spring system ensures the proper reset each and every time. Although the trigger pull is a little heavy as compared to the AR's, it is still smooth. Practice is the main key for a bunch of shooters. Like me, a lot of people have spent years shooting the AR and are use to the 5.5-6 lb. trigger pull. Also, the AR's brass deflector works well enough to deflect the brass away from left-handed shooters, whereas that TAVOR would really need the left-hand conversion done. Something you cannot do to an AR. There are always going to PROs and CONS to any weapon system. You either accept them and adjust or you get rid of the weapon. I would much rather adjust and increase my ability to be proficient with a wide variety of weapons.

I absolutely agree that (quality) practice is key to utilizing any weapon system to its full potential, and that the Tavor is an excellent platform. For me a good AR is an all around better choice than the Tavor, but everyone is different.

 

[crazymoose]

How about the Kel Teck RFB as an alternative?

It is fully ambidextrous, ejects its brass forwards and comes in .308

Had an RFB and was not terribly impressed. Part of what sold me on the Tavor was, like other military rifles, its use in the field helps identify design flaws, and parts will likely be available for quite a while. Not to say that small companies cannot produce good weapons, but the kind of data you get from widespread field usage is invaluable.

 

[jrs93accord]

I absolutely agree that (quality) practice is key to utilizing any weapon system to its full potential, and that the Tavor is an excellent platform. For me a good AR is an all around better choice than the Tavor, but everyone is different.

I will have to agree. I do find the AR to be a more versatile weapon system that the TAVOR. If I had to choose between the two for a real SHTF scenario, it would be the AR. The problem I have is choosing which one. :supergrin:

 

[NeverMore1701]

I will have to agree. I do find the AR to be a more versatile weapon system that the TAVOR. If I had to choose between the two for a real SHTF scenario, it would be the AR. The problem I have is choosing which one. :supergrin:

This is getting entirely to friendly, let's argue about milspec and maybe pull up a chart, eh?

:tongueout:

 

[jrs93accord]

This is getting entirely to friendly, let's argue about milspec and maybe pull up a chart, eh?

:tongueout:

:rofl:

 

[fusegsp]

I've got to say that I hated the trigger when I got my Tavor. Over the last few weeks I've gotten totally used to it. I just got the e-mail that my name is up on the Shooting Sight trigger waiting list, so the stock trigger pack is coming out. Should have it within a week.

 

[jdeere_man]

I have a tavor and my friend wanted to shoot it. I forgot he was left handed. One shot and he was no longer interested in my standard right hand model because he took brass to the face, specifically the lip.

If you are left handed I recommend the left handed model Tavor. If you want truly ambidextrous you might want to look at the FN FS2000 because it ejects brass straight down.

Overall I love my tavor. i love the size and portability of it without the hassle of a SBR, which I also have. Plus you retain the muzzle velocity. Everytime you get it out people start asking questions and want to see it.

 

[Wyoming]

I like my Tavor. A lot. That said, it has some obvious shortcomings and only two really standout features going for it.

The good:

It's short. Really, really short. With a full 16" barrel. This translates into better ballistics than my 11.5" AR with shorter overall length.

It's balanced so you can very comfortably maneuver, aim, and fire it with one hand. I can do it with an AR, but it requires more effort and concentration.


The less good:

It's not as accurate as my ARs. Out to 100 yards the difference is pretty minimal when shooting offhand. At 300 it's pretty noticeable. I mostly attribute this to the aforementioned balance. There's no weight out front to keep things steady. It's also not real easy for me to shoot prone, though I'm sure more time with the gun might reduce that particular problem.

Definitely not as easy as an AR to switch strong/weak side on the fly. It can be shot on the off side, but it takes a bit of care to not get your face in the way of the workings. Again, more time with the gun might reduce that problem as well.

The trigger is atrocious, and the current aftermarket options are some combination of completely unreliable, very expensive, and/or not yet available. Hopefully this will change soon

The BUIS, while niftily integrated and included with the rifle, take up a lot of rail space. I don't consider this to be a huge deal, as it's not a gun really suited for a magnified optic, but I'd rather have no rail where the BUIS sit instead of rail space that's unusable without mounting the accessory over the folded sights.


Overall I'm very glad I have, and greatly enjoy shooting it. Were I stuck with only it to defend myself, I wouldn't feel at all unarmed. That said, for most uses, I'd rather one of my ARs.

Thanks Nevermore for a good honest comparison of a AR and a Tavor.

 

[NeverMore1701]

Thanks Nevermore for a good honest comparison of a AR and a Tavor.

Just one guy's opinion :wavey:

 

[johnson8861]

I have a Ps90 and I really like it's trigger. It is completely left hand friendly, as it ejects out the bottom. I didn't post this to try to sway the op, but for further enlightenment of everyone.