[Andy W]

I know there is a surprisingly high number of gun owners who do not like AR-15/AK-47 type rifles and do not believe there is a legitimate reason to own one. Have you ever been in a gun shop where the owner refused to sell these types of weapons? Have you ever heard anyone at a gun shop discussing how people shouldn't own them? Any other funny stories about "evil assault rifles"?

I purchased my first AR-15 a while back and one of the main reasons I purchased this rifle instead of, say, a Mini-14 was because I am aware that the fact I can and do legally own this rifle pisses off the liberal protectionists, Fudds, and Brady bunch. Anything that goes against these types of people is a good thing in my book.

 

[Wyoming]

That is why I left Ohio over three decades ago. Then it was the Saturday Night Special. There was no reason for anybody to own a cheap handgun. The only problem was the way the Government defined cheap. Some how size matter when comparing quality. Stupid!

I will not let any anti gunner get away with the word "control" as in gun control. What we do is gun control, sight picture, trigger press and safe gun handling.

When they talk about banning something than the word is "prohibit" as in prohibit owning. That makes them gun prohibitionist.

 

[racer88]

First, I can't imagine a gun shop that doesn't sell EBRs. That would certainly limit their revenue stream, since they ARE popular.

When I shot a non-gun friend a photo of one of my EBRs, they often get wide-eyed and make any number of the usual comments. "Why do you NEED that kind of rifle?" "Oooh an 'assault rifle'!" And, so on.

They are even more incredulous when I tell them that these rifles function IDENTICALLY to a standard deer rifle. The only differences are a matter of ergonomics and environments where they are used.

I can't imagine any gun owner (who actually understands how guns work / function) that would argue against ownership of an AR or AK type of rifle.

Why do I buy them? Because I can. And, I will continue until I can't (a day I hope never arrives).

 

[WoodenPlank]

I've gotten some comments like that from older guys on the range before, especially when I started shooting my SBR'd AR15. Either I ignore them, or just look at them and say "So, you're saying you wanna shoot it?" and hold it out for them.

 

[cloudbuster]

I don't spend a lot of time conversing with the employees in gun shops, but I don't know of a gun store anywhere here in central/SE Ohio that doesn't sell them. As a previous poster mentioned, they're a big part of the revenue stream.

Gun shop employees are pretty just like anyone else you meet on the street, complete with often bizarre and ill-informed opinions. Take what they say with a grain of salt, shrug and move on.

 

[Brucev]

Re: OP. I've been in some shops where the opinion was expressed that such AR15/AK47 type rifles were not widely useful, accurate, etc. Of course this is not supported by experience. My first 20 shots fired prone slow-fire at 100 yds. from my COLT Hbar scored 195/200. I had not ever before fired a AR15. I simply used normal good marksmanship practices and got excellent results. The 5.56mm is no a long-range deer round, but currently available soft-point ammunition makes it effective on deer sized game out to 100 yds. In fact, it works well on hogs in spite of their supposed toughness. Recent development have made it possible to chamber the AR15 for more effective rounds... i.e., 6.5, 6.8mm and .30 Remington, etc. I can see where the AR15 chambered in 6.5mm would be very effective for any use to which one might put a rifle short of dangerous game at close range. And, when it comes to dangerous game, there are calibers which would allow the AR15 to tackle that job with extreme effectiveness.

 

[mickdundie]

I had to ask when I bought my first CARBINE a couple years ago...because I didn't know what AR stood fer.

"Armalight Rifle" was the answer, and now "AR" is slang for every military style CARBINE with a banana clip :supergrin: Sort of like every adjustable wrench is a CRESENT...NOT Every 4 wheeler is a JEEP...NOT I could go on but you prefer I don't!

Therefor...I would edumacate them what they don't know is dangerous!

I own a "Bushmaster XM15" CARBINE chambered in 5.56 X 45... not an "Assault Rifle"

But like Ron White say's "You can't cure stupid"

Mick:thumbsup:

 

[Darkangel1846]

Yup, been in several store that refuse to carry or sell ARs or AKs. They tend to focus on hunting rifles and shotguns. I was looking at an AR once and this clown walked up to me and said(in a condesending voice) "What do you need that for?" I nicely told him it was none of his ******ing business and for him to go away. He was insulted and stomped out of the store. The owner of the store thanked me for getting rid of him.

 

[Taterhead]

I have found many people are ok with firearms in general, but have an aversion to black rifles and the like; mostly because they have no idea what they are. They look tactical, and the news has labeled them as assault weapons that only have applications of killing humans in mass quantities. "High powered assault rifles" is the term I hear.

While some gun banners are fully pot-committed to their positions, it has been fairly easy to help certain people amend their oppionions. I ask them if they realize that these rifles shoot a tiny 22 caliber bullet. And do they know that in some circles it is considered unethical to hunt large game with them because they lack sufficient power? If given the opportunity, I grab a deer rifle cartridge and a 223 cartridge and show them the size difference. That nullifies the notion of AR-type rifles being of a "high powered" nature.

Once that is out of the way, follow-up questions to me include what is the need for a civilian to have such a weapon? I explain that there are varminting applications, they are one of the least expensive rifles to shoot, they do not recoil so they have a wide appeal, plus they are just a lot of fun. It is for that reason that I helped put together a new EBR for my mother-in-law's birthday. I also explain that black rifles are adaptable by swapping parts to vastly different uses.

It is amazing how a little bit of information can calm nerves of those who don't really know what black rifles really are.

 

[racer88]

I was looking at an AR once and this clown walked up to me and said(in a condesending voice) "What do you need that for?" I nicely told him it was none of his ******ing business and for him to go away.

"Mostly I buy rifles like this to piss off people like you." :tongueout:

 

[DonD]

Early M-16s may not have had stellar accuracy but national high power matches are now commonly won by shooters using accurized AR-15s and anyone who disputes that is ignorant.

The media is one of our worst enemies. As any observant shooter knows, they always call AR "assault rifles" which is just another glaring example of their gross ignorance of firearms. As another poster correctly noted, they function no differently from semi auto rifles have been in the hands of shooters for around 100 yrs, they just look evil to the uninformed.

My direct experience with ARs has been limited but I do have a Remington R-15 in Remington 30AR on the way. My very infrequent range companion wife likes the camo coating. Don

 

[Batesmotel]

One store here will not stock them. He has nothing against them but his bread and butter is high end hunting arms. An AR doesn't really cut it in Africa. He has a few very high end black rifles (PSG-1 Etc.) on occasion but only as a consignment or used trade in.

He has had a few people come in and give him a load of crap because he doesn't stock the usual AR/AK selections.

 

[Jason D]

I love me some rifles that piss off the pantie waists.
I don't think much of the AK's though. While I would never buy one. I don't begrudge others from partaking.

First, I can't imagine a gun shop that doesn't sell EBRs. That would certainly limit their revenue stream, since they ARE popular.

When I shot a non-gun friend a photo of one of my EBRs, they often get wide-eyed and make any number of the usual comments. "Why do you NEED that kind of rifle?" "Oooh an 'assault rifle'!" And, so on.

They are even more incredulous when I tell them that these rifles function IDENTICALLY to a standard deer rifle. The only differences are a matter of ergonomics and environments where they are used.

I can't imagine any gun owner (who actually understands how guns work / function) that would argue against ownership of an AR or AK type of rifle.

Why do I buy them? Because I can. And, I will continue until I can't (a day I hope never arrives).

The local shop is like that.
The owner in name only still tries to get rid of them. The good thing is he's now literally losing his mind.

Early M-16s may not have had stellar accuracy but national high power matches are now commonly won by shooters using accurized AR-15s and anyone who disputes that is ignorant.

The media is one of our worst enemies. As any observant shooter knows, they always call AR "assault rifles" which is just another glaring example of their gross ignorance of firearms. As another poster correctly noted, they function no differently from semi auto rifles have been in the hands of shooters for around 100 yrs, they just look evil to the uninformed.

My direct experience with ARs has been limited but I do have a Remington R-15 in Remington 30AR on the way. My very infrequent range companion wife likes the camo coating. Don

One of the main reasons I bought my Bushmaster DCM gun 12 years or so ago.

 

[CVN76]

I know there is a surprisingly high number of gun owners who do not like AR-15/AK-47 type rifles and do not believe there is a legitimate reason to own one. Have you ever been in a gun shop where the owner refused to sell these types of weapons? Have you ever heard anyone at a gun shop discussing how people shouldn't own them? Any other funny stories about "evil assault rifles"?

I purchased my first AR-15 a while back and one of the main reasons I purchased this rifle instead of, say, a Mini-14 was because I am aware that the fact I can and do legally own this rifle pisses off the liberal protectionists, Fudds, and Brady bunch. Anything that goes against these types of people is a good thing in my book.

Hearing this makes me want to buy another black rifle. I have a RRA LAR-8 and I love it. I also have a Yugo AK-47. I agree, "Anything that goes against these types of people is a good thing in my book".

 

[mattallamerican]

they dont understand the 2nd amendment

 

[Andy W]

Yup, been in several store that refuse to carry or sell ARs or AKs. They tend to focus on hunting rifles and shotguns. I was looking at an AR once and this clown walked up to me and said(in a condesending voice) "What do you need that for?" I nicely told him it was none of his ******ing business and for him to go away. He was insulted and stomped out of the store. The owner of the store thanked me for getting rid of him.

Someone here posted a story a while back along these lines. Best I remember, he was in a gun shop looking around when he heard another guys in the shop guy tell his kid, "no one needs to own a rifle like this," pointing at an AR-15 on display. Next he promptly walked to the counter next to the guy, got the clerk's attention, and told him he wanted to purchase the AR-15 the other guy had just pointed at. He walked out with his new rifle, smilng all the way and possibly even nodding at the guy as he left the store. I would love to be able to do something like this sometme. Unfortunately, I just don't have the cash to make unplanned gun purchases at this time.

 

[Javelin]

Had one guy tell me something like that once about my silencer.

So I took my suppressor off of my 10.5" SBR, redialed my Aimpoint and started shooting it in offhand. With the breakout mount you can feel the recoil in your teeth with that short barrel.

They left. I put my M4-2000 Silencer back on.

:rofl:

 

[Jameson4all]

I find it silly to think of a gun store owner or a store in general not selling AR's and the like.

 

[NEOH212]

I haven't run into this in any gun store I've ever been to but I have had people bring it up to me at the shooting range of all places.

A range that I used to belong to wanted to ban semi-auto "Assault type Rifles" from the range. They said that there isn't any reason that anyone needs one. I said need one or not, I have a right to own one if I want to. They said that the gun club was about hunting rifles and shotguns. I said to them, "The Second Amendment isn't about hunting."

I also said, "Not everything that you will shoot will be while hunting." They just looked at me dumbfounded and asked what I meant by that. I said, did you ever hear of self defense? One gentleman replied, "With a AR-15?" I said, "Oh yea, that's a crazy idea." (Said very sarcastically.)

I said, "Our military doesn't use them or anything. (again, very sarcastically said)" He said, "Yes they do." I said, no they don't. They use the M16 select fire version. They don't use semi-only rifles as a main battle rifle. He said, "What the hell do you need a AR for defense for." I replied, "What if someone broke into your house and they were wearing body armor and you had to shoot them." "How would your pistol or shotgun be able to get them to stop if they were trying to kill you."

There was just silence. I gladly didn't renew my membership that day. I moved on to another club just down the road and I now have private land to shoot on anytime. The crappy gun club only lasted about another year after that. Someone purchased the land and has a bunch of junk cars on it now. A fitting end to that crap hole.

Of all places that I figured I wouldn't hear such a stupid argument or interpretation of the second amendment!

I later found out that the owner of the club was a hard core democrat! (No surprise there!)

What idiots! :shakehead:

 

[NEOH212]

they dont understand the 2nd amendment

This!

:thumbsup: