Hey everybody, so I have a Glock 17/22 model Advantage Arms conversion slide that has worked pretty well so far. I was having multiple stovepipes per mag at one point, but I filed down the front of the feedlips as shown in a thread on Calguns about the issue and it solved the stovepiping about 95%. However, yesterday, I had 2 mags experience a fail to feed on the 2nd to last round in the mag, a bolt over round malfunction. I had shot about 200rds through the kit since my last teardown but I've never had this happen before- could the feedlip mods have solved one problem and created another? Also this is ONLY on the 19 style mags, the 17 style mags had no failures. I am shooting Remington Golden Bullets, which suck and are cheap and ****ty, but they are recommended in the manual and easy to get around here, so whatever. I don't mind clearing a few jams every once in a while when training but I am concerned about this type of malfunction since it did not happen before.
Advantage Arms conversion fail to feed issues
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Hey everybody, so I have a Glock 17/22 model Advantage Arms conversion slide that has worked pretty well so far. I was having multiple stovepipes per mag at one point, but I filed down the front of the feedlips as shown in a thread on Calguns about the issue and it solved the stovepiping about 95%. However, yesterday, I had 2 mags experience a fail to feed on the 2nd to last round in the mag, a bolt over round malfunction. I had shot about 200rds through the kit since my last teardown but I've never had this happen before- could the feedlip mods have solved one problem and created another? Also this is ONLY on the 19 style mags, the 17 style mags had no failures. I am shooting Remington Golden Bullets, which suck and are cheap and ****ty, but they are recommended in the manual and easy to get around here, so whatever. I don't mind clearing a few jams every once in a while when training but I am concerned about this type of malfunction since it did not happen before.
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I gave up on the AA kit long time ago, to many annoying problems. What's the purpose of having a conversion kit if you have to be working on it all the time in order to make it function the way it suppose to?...it makes no sense at all, it shouldn't be that way. I got tired of filing, polishing, adjusting magazines, etc in order to fix all the problems and make it work right. When I sold it was working perfect because of all the work and time I put into it. Usually the common issues are, stovepipes, light striking, ftf and waaay to picky and selective with ammo and the list kept going and going plus Advantage Arms tech advisors are no help, they can't give you a straight answer to solve the problems, they just want you to keep sending the kit back to them everytime you have an issue, what a hassle!
Went ahead and purchased the new Ruger SR22 pistol, took it straight to the range with the cheap RGB and all of the left over brands of .22 ammo from my "picky" AA kit and the pistol ran without a single issue, typical of Ruger:winkie:....The SR22 is definitely a winner in my book, it'll be great if Glock follows and start making their own .22cal pistols.
Went ahead and purchased the new Ruger SR22 pistol, took it straight to the range with the cheap RGB and all of the left over brands of .22 ammo from my "picky" AA kit and the pistol ran without a single issue, typical of Ruger:winkie:....The SR22 is definitely a winner in my book, it'll be great if Glock follows and start making their own .22cal pistols.
Is that AA kit for sale?
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"When I sold it was working perfect because of all the work and time I put into it"
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I've got two kits and never have had a problem, 4,700+ rounds thru one and 10,500+ thru the other.
Thing is, when I got them I followed SalfromCal's advice here. The difference is I only had to do it once.
http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1251184
Sorry it didn't work out for you Sal but I appreciate you passing on the knowledge.
Dave
Thing is, when I got them I followed SalfromCal's advice here. The difference is I only had to do it once.
http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1251184
Sorry it didn't work out for you Sal but I appreciate you passing on the knowledge.
Dave
I used to have one of those AA kits and everytime I had a FTF or FTE issue I used to saved all the CCI, RGB, Federal ammo and later load it into my Ruger MK3 and S&W .22A magazines and each one of them went off, no problem whatsoever so the FTE and FTF problems with some AA kits is not exactly ammo related, has to be something else, that's why I got rid of it. I purchased a factory Beretta .22 kit instead, one of the best kits you can buy for the $$$ but you have to pay more if you really want good quality and realiability, it ran perfect out of the box with four different brands of ammo, this is for sure a quality piece but of course, it's made by Beretta for Beretta's.... and I'm very happy with it 
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Haven't had to do any tweaking to my g19 kit. Just load it up with REM GB or CCI mini mags and it runs fine.
Only thing it.chokes occasionaly on is the federal bulk pack stuff.
Keep it clean and run it wet with lube and you will be fine.
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Only thing it.chokes occasionaly on is the federal bulk pack stuff.
Keep it clean and run it wet with lube and you will be fine.
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I'd say to keep shooting it and see if it frees up. Mine was a little picky at first, then I ran a few boxes of CCIs through it and it worked pretty much perfectly after that. I then tried Federal and Winchester and it would NOT run at all.
Today I ran a hundred CCIs with zero failures then a hundred Remingtons, with only a few issues, one or two where I had to re-rack the slide to get it to fire. One wouldn't fire in my Mark II either so I guess it was a dud.
This is on a 26.
Today I ran a hundred CCIs with zero failures then a hundred Remingtons, with only a few issues, one or two where I had to re-rack the slide to get it to fire. One wouldn't fire in my Mark II either so I guess it was a dud.
This is on a 26.
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My AA conversion for my G23 has been pretty dependable right out of the box. Considering the cheap Rem GB ammo, things always worked reasonable well.
After looking at the youtube vids of polishing ramps and stuff, I decided to get out the Dremmel and try to improve on the AA and its willingness to feed.
I used one of the small cotton wheels and some Mother's metal polish I have laying around for my wheels. All I really attempted to do is clean things up and ensure that the problem was not in the fit and finish.
I polished the ramp, face, block and entire barrel. I did NOT attempt to remove any metal, just simply put a shine and smooth surface on everything.
RESULT is that I have shot another 250 rounds and almost totally eliminated any problems. I am convinced that the remaining issues are mag related, and even those are few and getting better. Proper loading and a gentle tap once loaded seems to be working for me.
BOTTOM LINE: I do not depend on this configuration of my weapon. This is just for fun and giggles, and to save me money when I want to shoot a lot. I am sold on the kit, and with little work it is nearly bullet-proof.
Good luck
After looking at the youtube vids of polishing ramps and stuff, I decided to get out the Dremmel and try to improve on the AA and its willingness to feed.
I used one of the small cotton wheels and some Mother's metal polish I have laying around for my wheels. All I really attempted to do is clean things up and ensure that the problem was not in the fit and finish.
I polished the ramp, face, block and entire barrel. I did NOT attempt to remove any metal, just simply put a shine and smooth surface on everything.
RESULT is that I have shot another 250 rounds and almost totally eliminated any problems. I am convinced that the remaining issues are mag related, and even those are few and getting better. Proper loading and a gentle tap once loaded seems to be working for me.
BOTTOM LINE: I do not depend on this configuration of my weapon. This is just for fun and giggles, and to save me money when I want to shoot a lot. I am sold on the kit, and with little work it is nearly bullet-proof.
Good luck
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My AA kit on my G20 has been totally reliable with only two exceptions - or rather, special conditions.
1.) You HAVE to use the ammo that Advantage Arms says to use, period. (Either CCI mini mags or Remington Golden Bullets) If you don't, you're crying about a self-inflicted problem - not a flaw in the AA kit.
2.) You HAVE to clean it a lot to keep it running right. Mine will feed about 98 percent reliable out to about 3 or 4 hundred rounds. But if I want it to be 100 percent reliable all the time, I have to clean the soot out every 200 rounds, and I don't mind that. For me, the jams only happen after more than 200 shots, and if you don't clean it at least that much, IMO you'd again be crying about a self-inflicted problem that's not a flaw in the AA kit.
1.) You HAVE to use the ammo that Advantage Arms says to use, period. (Either CCI mini mags or Remington Golden Bullets) If you don't, you're crying about a self-inflicted problem - not a flaw in the AA kit.
2.) You HAVE to clean it a lot to keep it running right. Mine will feed about 98 percent reliable out to about 3 or 4 hundred rounds. But if I want it to be 100 percent reliable all the time, I have to clean the soot out every 200 rounds, and I don't mind that. For me, the jams only happen after more than 200 shots, and if you don't clean it at least that much, IMO you'd again be crying about a self-inflicted problem that's not a flaw in the AA kit.
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I agree with the last poster 100 %. Maybe 7 k on one kit works ok per instructions
The two most reliable conversion kits for my 1911's have been the Marvel and Tactical Solutions (improved version of the Jarvis). I have contemplated purchasing the Tactical Solutions conversion kit for my G-17 since it is an all steel unit.
If one requires additional trigger time with his favorite CF handgun then a 22 conversion unit is the way to go. However, if one desires a trouble free 22 which shoots a wide variety of ammo flawlessly then purchase a Browning Buckmark or Ruger.
If one requires additional trigger time with his favorite CF handgun then a 22 conversion unit is the way to go. However, if one desires a trouble free 22 which shoots a wide variety of ammo flawlessly then purchase a Browning Buckmark or Ruger.
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I to like using the same gun for trigger time. Its the hardest part to shooting a G17 well in my opinion. I,m not a expert on .22 conversions but I had a Ciener that would not run -sent it back still would not run. Customer service sucked. I have had 3 AA kits - one for a 2nd gen G20 it worked great-sold gun -a mistake ??? and 2 kits for a 2nd gen G17 (2004) 7,000 rounds ? and a new kit 2011 same gun. I was in the right place at the right time so I bought it. It remains NIB. And please take my advice and stay away from Tactical Solutions as it never would run on my gun. Its a long story but stick with AA kits and proper ammo /cleaning/oiling and be happy. .22s have no recoil so slide weight does not matter. Just my thinking on it all.
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I'm with Terry, I really like getting the same trigger feel with the AA conversion. Understand that it is a conversion, clean and lubricate it well, feed it good ammo and enjoy
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Same here using RGB. 22LR is much dirtier then centerfire, so you do need to keep it clean and properly lubed.
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There are certain limitations here to be aware of concerning trigger feel and such.
The trigger might feel a little different because it's not the same striker spring you're pulling against when you pull the trigger. It feels a bit lighter to me. There's also a lot of overall weight difference. The AA slide is aluminum, which works fine for .22 ammo, but it changes the weight of the gun a lot. Another weight change, even more severe, comes from the fact that a G20 loaded with 10MM ammo is a ton heavier than it is when loaded with ten .22 cartridges, which is the limit in AA mags, (the company is in Kalifornia, I think) and they cannot really be modified to hold more.
I still agree that's it's nice to practice with a .22 that has the same general feel as my 10MM, but it is a bit different holding a loaded G20 that feels like a feather. Just something to be expecting, in case you think it might interfere with the quality of your practice sessions. It really doesn't bother me much.
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