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Scared_of_zombies

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I am looking in to getting a small .22 auto to help new shooters learn on. I want a smaller gun to help get over the negative stereotype some have towards guns. My goal is to have a small gun that is easy to shoot and doesn't "look dangerous". The NAA is out as I have found that its difficult for most new shooters to manipulate.

I would MUCH prefer a .22lr over a .22 long. A .22 short isnt entirely out of the question either though if thats what I am stuck with.

Thank you very much in advance and if you have a picture please have some scale (like a quarter) available or specs of the gun.



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I dont plan on shooting full power loads. Mostly the cci .22 cb longs (29 grain 750 fps). Accuracy isnt as imporant for them as it is for most shooters. If it can hit a pie plate at 21 feet thats great. I will tell them its the gun if they complain about accuracy.

This is going to be the first gun I run them through the basics on. I shot a 21a and liked it but the grips were a tad large for the real young shooters (around 8). I have a knockoff of a colt vest pocket that many women tend to like but the ammunition is a tad pricey. If I could find something the size of a vest pocket but in .22 or a .22 conversion for the vest pocket I believe that would be the best route.

I threw the .22 long statement in there as I have seen some older guns (pre 1970's) that are .22 long and are fairly small. They are the pre Kel-tec days when people were much more limited in the choice of firearms for self defense due to both technology and legal issues.

I could be way off in my line of thinking but I want the least "scary looking" gun to lay in front of a new shooter.
 
I believe that the smallest .22lr auto is the Walther P22. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I can't attest to how dangerous looking it would be perceived, though. :dunno:

ETA:- never mind- damn, that Bobcat is small!
 
Double thread? :wavey:
 
The smallest I know of is the Beretta Bobcat. I own the Tomcat and Bobcat, and, IIRC, they're the same size and DAMN tiny!
 
micro can mean more noise and less accuracy (short sight radius) for beginners.
S&W had an economical series a while back, walther will suffice

would MUCH prefer a .22lr over a .22 long
No new firearms are designed specifically to use .22 Long and the largest 3 producers of .22 Long ammunition ceased production (although it continues to be made by CCI, Aguila, and others). Many .22 Long Rifle guns will chamber and fire the shorter round, though the .22 Long generally does not generate sufficient energy to operate semi-automatic guns. The one prominent survivor of the .22 Long is the .22 CB Long, a long-cased version of the .22 CB.
 
I bought a NAA that folds like a pocket knife a few years back and I can't find it! I blame the wife but she blames me. :dunno:

That's pretty small.
 
Smith 41 is big bucks these days...I think they had a 422 series that was only 200 +/-?

Just use the old ruger mk series....cheap, reliable, simple

A NAA isn't going to instill confidence in a beginner....accuracy is sketchy, fingers will be black, pita to load, barely get a grip on the ones without the folding grip....fun, but no.
 
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The Jimenez Arms J.A. .22 is, I believe the "Smallest .22lr auto pistol?".

http://jimenezarmsinc.com/22lr.htm

However, it might just be "the biggest piece of **** .22lr auto pistol", too.
LOL, I had one in .380 that catastrophically broke on me (thank god for gun buy backs).

I wanna teach them how to shoot not hold up a 7-11.
 
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