[CamHollowPoint1988]

There have been several videos on youtube as well as some articles floating around online. Saying that Rock Island Armory 1911'S are Made from old Colt Gun making machines. That were acquired by Armscor in the Phillippines to make the all to popular. Budget priced great quality Rock Island Armory 1911 Pistols. I have heard this from several individuals at gun shows and shops as well is this true? They are Basically Colts is what people say since they are made on the original Colt Gun making machines????????

I own a RIA M1911-A1FS GI and it is Great i love it It is not like my Gold Cup National Match but. Let's just say it is reliable pretty damm accurate for the price i paid i was shocked.:wow: Get one i recommend them.

Yes i know it is a Phillipino Made gun but they are great quality i believe in buying american but this 1911 has proven itself and beyond.

 

[Scamp]

I don't know about being made with the Colt stuff, but I do know I love mine. It has been 100% reliable with aftermarket mags.

 

[samuse]

Oh yeah, for sure.

Colt doesn't make guns anymore but this $400 1911 was made on Colt's old equipment.

It was probably made from recycled railroad tracks. That's why the steel is so good.

:rofl:

 

[NIB]

It could be possible, but we'll never know. It's not unusual for other companies to buy old machinery and start making pistols/rifles.

PTR-91 rifles were made from machines sold off by HK. Old Taurus 92 pistols were made from early Beretta machinery.

 

[woodrowNC]

what equipment it is made on doesn't matter, as long as it's still in good shape. a lathe or mill with good spindle bearings is all you need. i've read colt still has some of the old machines but has also gone cnc a bit.

 

[mixflip]

Yes i know it is a Phillipino Made gun but they are great quality i believe in buying american but this 1911 has proven itself and beyond.

Dude, its Filipino with an "F" and America deserves a capital "A".

(relax I am just messing with ya..:tongueout Seriously though, RIA really does make good quality guns. I want a RIA G.I. just like BAC's. As for the machinery? Its possible. Tauras bought Beretta's original tooling (and the original blue prints for the 92 and engineers too) when Beretta up and left Brazil. I guess anything is possible?

 

[Jim S.]

Most old machines are rebuilt and used again until they are no longer worth rebuilding.
It is possible that Colt did send some machines to the company that makes the Rock Island 1911's but why would you?
It would be cheaper to just purchase new machines over having old ones shipped around the world.
Just a thought.
I suppose if Colt gave them the machinery as a sub contractor to make parts for Colt then that would be an explanation.
Doesn't really matter though.
It is the program that runs a CNC machine that would matter.
Either that or the know how of a qualified machinist trained in making fire arms such as the 1911.

 

[woodrowNC]

Most old machines are rebuilt and used again until they are no longer worth rebuilding.
It is possible that Colt did send some machines to the company that makes the Rock Island 1911's but why would you?
It would be cheaper to just purchase new machines over having old ones shipped around the world.
Just a thought.
I suppose if Colt gave them the machinery as a sub contractor to make parts for Colt then that would be an explanation.
Doesn't really matter though.
It is the program that runs a CNC machine that would matter.
Either that or the know how of a qualified machinist trained in making fire arms such as the 1911.

most are just cnc operators. not machinists in the true sense. the program is proved out, and then it's just a matter of pushing a start button and changing the tooling when it gets dull, and making adjustments to cutter offsets. pretty boring really.

 

[glock2740]

Yes i know it is a fillipino Made gun but they are great quality i believe in buying American but this 1911 has proven itself and beyond.

There. Now it's fixed. :thumbsup: atriot:

 

[anyplainjoe]

Colt's magic machines...sigh

jeez, talk about the halo affect of brand

 

[jrs93accord]

It is extremely possible that the equipment came from Colt. After WWII, the United States helped the Phillipines recover in a lot of ways.

 

[AZ Jeff]

If Armscor is using old tooling from somebody else, no matter WHO, I seriously doubt it's as good as the stuff being used by most of the big boys nowadays.

I know that Colt pretty much invested in all new CNC machines when they moved from downtown Hartford to their new location in the suburbs.

 

[ferd]

Here is my experience with RIA. A guy I know buys a RIA Commander model. The second mag out the extractor claw breaks the tip off. I happened to be shooting it at that time and managed to get two rounds downrange before this happened. A Wilson Bulletproof extractor fit right in, but stuck out a bit in the back. Second time out the pistol was flaweless and never jammed. After the session he field stripped it at home and the ejector falls out on the bench. The front pin had broken off. You get what you pay for. If the factory parts had a good day and were hardened properly, you can have an ok gun. If not, well then it will fail on you. After seeing this, I will stick with Colts.

 

[kahoys]

Oh yeah, for sure.

Colt doesn't make guns anymore but this $400 1911 was made on Colt's old equipment.

It was probably made from recycled railroad tracks. That's why the steel is so good.

:rofl:

Norinco? you betcha, one of the best 1911 platforms out there for the money.

RIA, another great piece, google search either one, you'll find alot of satisfied
customers out there.

 

[JK-linux]

Norinco? you betcha, one of the best 1911 platforms out there for the money.

RIA, another great piece, google search either one, you'll find alot of satisfied
customers out there.

x2. My Norinco 1911A1 is all the JMB goodness I've needed since parting with $299 in 1993. Funny, but I haven't needed any of the aftermarket stuff to make it accurate or reliable either. I can even shoot it without an extended, bi-sexualdextrous safety, and beaver tail. Go figure.

 

[jrs93accord]

x2. My Norinco 1911A1 is all the JMB goodness I've needed since parting with $299 in 1993. Funny, but I haven't needed any of the aftermarket stuff to make it accurate or reliable either. I can even shoot it without an extended, bi-sexualdextrous safety, and beaver tail. Go figure.

I know just what you mean.

 

[FL2NV]

Not saying anything about the quality, as I have no clue, but what machine they are made on is irrelevant. It would seem the materials they put in the machines would say more to the quality than the machine that makes them.

 

[woodrowNC]

If Armscor is using old tooling from somebody else, no matter WHO, I seriously doubt it's as good as the stuff being used by most of the big boys nowadays.

I know that Colt pretty much invested in all new CNC machines when they moved from downtown Hartford to their new location in the suburbs.

old machinery well kept is just as accurate as any cnc out there. it just can't repeat it for as long without a machinists input. tool wear indicators, spc charts, etc. it's biggest advantage is increased output. can't compete in todays market without it. but a good toolmaker, he usually makes the tooling for it on conventional equipment.

It is extremely possible that the equipment came from Colt. After WWII, the United States helped the Phillipines recover in a lot of ways.

would make perfect sense. with the way we were moving after WW2 the US could have moved Iowa over there in a wk.

 

[HotRoderX]

Oh yeah, for sure.

Colt doesn't make guns anymore but this $400 1911 was made on Colt's old equipment.

It was probably made from recycled railroad tracks. That's why the steel is so good.

:rofl:

Hey as long as its quality and works will I don't care if they use recycled airplane parts.


Would kinda make since in my mind that the tooling is colt. I have read a lot of places most of colts aftermarket 1911 parts are drop in with minimal fitting in the RIA's

 

[bac1023]

x2. My Norinco 1911A1 is all the JMB goodness I've needed since parting with $299 in 1993. Funny, but I haven't needed any of the aftermarket stuff to make it accurate or reliable either. I can even shoot it without an extended, bi-sexualdextrous safety, and beaver tail. Go figure.

I love Norinco 1911s.