[PlayboyPenguin]

As most of us already know, SIG upgraded the internals of their P250 line of pistols recently. They changed from a flat spring and thinner guide rod to a thicker guide rod and their more brand specific braided recoil spring.

Does anyone one know if that was the only internal change? I assume it was the only change and that the barrel and interior dimensions are the same as the old ones. If that is the case I am assuming one could upgrade their old gun by simply buying a new guide rod and spring.

My usually source of information on anything SIG is not answering his phone or e-mails for the last couple of days. I hope he isn't in jail again. :supergrin:

 

[Gary1911A1]

Massad Ayoob wrote up the 250 in Guns Magazine and reported there was a bad batch of trigger bars after his test 250 started to fail another tester.

 

[tampashooters]

As most of us already know, SIG upgraded the internals of their P250 line of pistols recently. They changed from a flat spring and thinner guide rod to a thicker guide rod and their more brand specific braided recoil spring.

Does anyone one know if that was the only internal change? I assume it was the only change and that the barrel and interior dimensions are the same as the old ones. If that is the case I am assuming one could upgrade their old gun by simply buying a new guide rod and spring.

My usually source of information on anything SIG is not answering his phone or e-mails for the last couple of days. I hope he isn't in jail again. :supergrin:

I spoke to a rep at Sig the other day, and he said that all new 9mm and .40sw P250's should be shipping with the Flat spring, and not the braided one. My newest three reflect that statement. I understood that they have problems with the braided keeps coming undone... Sig actually called it a "Stranded" spring.

 

[PlayboyPenguin]

I spoke to a rep at Sig the other day, and he said that all new 9mm and .40sw P250's should be shipping with the Flat spring, and not the braided one. My newest three reflect that statement. I understood that they have problems with the braided keeps coming undone... Sig actually called it a "Stranded" spring.

You need to call a another rep. He gave you the complete backwards information. SIG released an official statement months ago that all new P250's were switching to the braided recoil spring as of late last year. So unless they reversed that decision and went back to the old set up he was incorrect. All the new ones i have seen have the braided recoil spring. I am starting to wonder what is up over at SIG right now. They seem to be unable to get their stories straight or their act together.

 

[fastbolt]

"Months ago" is along time, especially if the company has been continuing to look at revisions and refinements to help a relatively new model better meet their expectation, and the expectations of their customers.

Like most manufacturers, I suspect Sig Sauer reserves the right to make changes in specification, materials and manufacturing to their product line as they see fit, without providing notice of it. Not a big deal.

Although I'm a Sig armorer, I haven't been keeping up on the P250 model and it wasn't in the model line when I took my class.

You might call and ask someone in customer service, if it really bothers you.

The stranded springs should normally be inspected periodically to make sure the strands haven't start to separate at the ends, or that the core element hasn't started to recede or protrude.

I can certainly see them switching to the flat wound spring, though, as it seems to work very well in some other diminutive pistol designs where slide run travel is limited and recoil forces are strong.

It wouldn't surprise me to see them maybe switching from one spring design to the other, or even back, until they've decided they've achieved the optimal spring balance for their new 250, for all calibers, especially taking into consideration the "shooter influence" when it comes to grip stability and allowing the short slide to have a proper run against the"typical" shooter's grip support.

I also wouldn't be surprised if the recent BATFE testing didn't result in some further fine tuning, as it might well for any major manufacturer who wanted to continuously improve and refine their product.

While the S&W M&P pistol did fine in last year's DEA testing, and was approved for individual purchase for duty & off-duty in a range of models & calibers, I was told they developed a new optional spring for one of the parts in at least one compact model as a result of their observations during the arduous testing done by DEA.

Have you called Sig to ask which of the recoil springs they're currently selling for the 250?

 

[Eyescream]

I also wouldn't be surprised if the recent BATFE testing didn't result in some further fine tuning, as it might well for any major manufacturer who wanted to continuously improve and refine their product.

Especially since said product was basically laughed out of the lineup.

 

[tampashooters]

You need to call a another rep. He gave you the complete backwards information. SIG released an official statement months ago that all new P250's were switching to the braided recoil spring as of late last year. So unless they reversed that decision and went back to the old set up he was incorrect. All the new ones i have seen have the braided recoil spring. I am starting to wonder what is up over at SIG right now. They seem to be unable to get their stories straight or their act together.

No, I'm convinced. I bought two brand new P250s' (9/c & 40/sc) from two different places, and 1 9/sc X-change kit directly from Sig, all built within the last month and a half, and they have the flat coil spring, combined with what the rep told me, I have no doubt that I have the latest gun with the latest internals. Older memo's do not mean much in this day and age.. They all shoot flawlessly, so I'm done.

 

[PlayboyPenguin]

No, I'm convinced. I bought two brand new P250s' (9/c & 40/sc) from two different places, and 1 9/sc X-change kit directly from Sig, all built within the last month and a half, and they have the flat coil spring, combined with what the rep told me, I have no doubt that I have the latest gun with the latest internals. Older memo's do not mean much in this day and age.. They all shoot flawlessly, so I'm done.

I hope to find out for sure soon. I kind of hope they did go back to the flat recoil spring. Then I have no reason to not buy the P250sc I am eyeballing. I would probably still upgrade it to the coiled spring and thicker guide rod they went t recently if possible simply because I consider it a superior item. If they did go away from it I wonder why they did. The coiled spring is a trademark SIG item.

 

[fastbolt]

The coiled spring is a trademark SIG item.

At one time so was the stamped & folded slide which required a breech block. The .40 S&W cartridge came along, though ...

Things change, and sometimes firearm ... and parts/component ... design may have to change or evolve in order to meet functional requirements.

Personally, I like it when engineers continue to make beneficial changes and revisions to enhance function and operational capabilities.

It makes my job as an armorer a bit easier, and as an owner/user I appreciate experiencing optimal functioning, reliability and durability.

Let us know what Sig tells you when you call and inquire about it.

 

[TSAX]

Check the Sig forum, it is a good source of info like this place for Glocks. I found out a lot about Sig variations on that site regarding the 2022 and all the freaking new 226 variants.