[ScrappyDoo]

Question to thoSe in the know... Dick's Sporting Goods around me have a package gun that has intrigued me for a while... It's a Remington 700 " SPS VARMINT" .... in several diff caliber: ( i would be buying the .308 ) ... With an OD synthetic stock , long heavy barrel, and mounted boresighted scope ( cheap one I'm sure) cost 499.99 .... But I have read that this is the worst of the 700 pckgs rifles, something like it's not free floated , it's not bedded right, and it needs pillars and jewels. Can anyone give me a quick go/ no go opinion and if it's not too much trouble a quick laymans 'splainin? Thanks !!

 

[KK40384]

I don't know much about it but from what I've heard its the entry level 700. You get what you pay for but the potential is there if you're willing to upgrade it. If you just want a basic bolt gun in that price range look elsewhere. Savage and Tikka offer a better rifle for that money in that price range. Just my opinion.

 

[durabo]

this is relevant to my interests.

i think i may have seen that same rifle today at Dicks... maybe...

mine was Camo, and it was 599...

for the life of me i cant remeber what model it was!

actually come to think of it, they had some other 700's there for 469.

gah i shoulda paid more attention, it was my third gun shop of the day and i was worn out!

 

[ScrappyDoo]

Bump... I read in a different area that the Remington 700 action alone is worth minimum $400, so this is an excellent deal

but I also read that it's NOT a free floated barrel, it's not pillared in its bed and its not crowned with jewels or something like that... and I would be spending a lot to do these upgrades (and I am not qualified to do anything myself)...

So could someone plz give me a brief Rem 700 lesson?

I thought I would love Remington when I started purchasing Firearms. So far I only one one Remington, a 597 Rimfire, and its probably the same combo from Dick's... It's an OD Green synthetic stock and cheap "Remington" rimfire 3-9x40 scope.. and its okay. but I also bought a Savage Mark II "GXP" .22LR and it's got a BEAUTIFUL wood stock, AWESOME bolt action, etc... it is not fair to compare but it feels like a RICH rifle compared to the 597... so maybe Savage is better?

I just want a decent, entry-level-plus "Sniper Rifle" for shooting some and if SHTF etc. I am torn, some sources/sites say a $500 Remington 700 in .308 with [with a scope no less] is a redonkulous deal, buy buy buy, some say it's not really even fair to say it's a 700, it's not that good, would require a lot of work to make it a decent rifle, etc.

 

[ju993rnaut]

Its an entry level rifle. Did it have a triangular barrel?? If you want a "sniper rifle" its gonna cost lots of $$ whether you buy it the way you want it or make it the way you want it. $400 for the action alone is about right. No the particular model isnt bedded or free-floated do you intend to shoot moa or sub moa groups often?? If its a fairly accurate longer range gun your looking for, why not, buy it, shoot the daylights out of it, and then upgrade as you go?

Heres a suggestion below. Its a little more money but has more bells and whistles.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_57/products_id/42070

 

[jstang]

I have one in .223 paid 499 for it about a month ago. Stock out of the box i was shooting sub moa 5 shot groups at 100 yds using handloads and a bipod. The barrel is not free-floated. The stock isnt very rigid but for a starter rifle its not bad, i bought mine with the intention of building it up as my skills increase. The scope works its remington branded not the best but it works. Kinda wish i woulda went with the .308 with a 20in barrel that ju993rnaut linked but it was sorta an impulse buy with little research first and figured I would go with 223 for the ammo commonality with my ar and which I was already set-up to load.

 

[ElevatedThreat]

Areas to look at on a Remington 700 bolt action:

Blued or stainless finish -- your preference. Some expensive models are titanium, or have a very weather-resistant synthetic treatment applied that can be any color.

Barrel length/contour -- your choice, except I'd avoid the triangular barrel with the integral muzzle brake. The triangular contour is a tacti-cool gimmick that does not really increase rigidity, and the integral brake is ineffective as a brake (it's just machined-in slots, not really an expansion chamber) while increasing loudness and flash, and decreasing effective barrel length (and thus lowering muzzle velocity).

Stock -- the cheap ones are going to be injection-molded plastic (rather than fiberglass/Kevlar/graphite) with no internal aluminum insert at the action or full-length, no pillar-bedding of the action screws, and no free-floating of the barrel.

Jeweling refers to an engine-turning treatment (done with a spinning metal brush and an abrasive paste) of the bolt that gives it a "jeweled" or faceted appearance. It is mostly cosmetic, although it does smooth things a bit and retains a bit of lubrication. One downside is that it reflects light.

-ET

 

[Puppy]

Heres a suggestion below. Its a little more money but has more bells and whistles.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_57/products_id/42070

I concur, for the OP's intended purpose the SPS tactical would be better suited.

 

[Zombie Steve]

I'm a big fan of the 700 action, but what you're looking at is the new version of what Remington used to call an ADL. It's the entry level version.

It may or may not shoot well without being free floated. In fact, until Remington started exploding in the LE / Military fields, very few of the 700's were free-floated. They usually had a little bump in the end of the barrel channel to provide a little upward pressure on the barrel. Seems like every rifle likes something different.

Unless it has their new externally adjustable trigger (you'll know because there's a place for allen head screw on the bottom of the new ones), expect to do a trigger job.

The stock is nothing to write home about, but one of the nice things about a 700 is there are aftermarket parts galore. Hot rod it to your heart's content.

 

[jp3975]

Buy this one. It's already upgraded.

http://www.snipercentral.com/rementrypack.phtml

Complete Remington 700 Package - $1150
($1175 non-member price)

Many people who are looking at our base Howa Entry Level Package would prefer the Remington 700 because of the familiarity of the Remington 700 action, the reputation, after market support, and some because it is made in the USA. For these reasons we have decided to put together a Remington 700 based package. At the core of the package is the Remington 700 SPS Varmint and SPS Tactical barreled actions which include Remingtons loved 700 action as well as a 26" or 20" heavy barrel. Using these barreled actions we then put them in the Bell & Carlson Medalist stock with a full aluminum bedding block. The barrels are free floated all the way to the action. Combined with an EGW 20 MOAi rail (or 15 MOA depending on scope) and Burris XTR rings we mount the scope. The base scope again is the Bushnell Elite 3200 10x40 which we feel is about the minimum quality tactical scope we would use. But in keeping with a made in the USA theme, we also feature some of the Burris Fullfield 2 Tactical scopes as well as Leupold scopes. Of course, any scope is available, just ask for pricing and we'll let you know what the extra would be.

Package Includes:

1. Remington 700 Heavy Barreled Action, 26" barrel length
2. .308 (1:12"), .243 (1:9.125"), .22-250(1:14"), .223(1:12"), 300 Win Mag (1:10")
3. Bell & Carlson Light Tactical Medalist Synthetic Stock (Mk1), full aluminum bedding block, free floating barrel
4. Bell & Carlson Vertical Grip Tactical Stock (Mk2), full aluminum bedding block, free floating barrel (No charge option)
5. Legacy International 1 Piece Picatinny Rail (EGW) - 20 or 15 MOA Depending on scope selection
6. Burris XTR Tactical Rings
7. Bushnell Elite 3200 10x40mm Tactical Scope with mildot reticle
8. Harris Bipod, solid mount, 9-13"
9. Plano double rifle hard gun case
10. Everything assembled and rifle zeroed at 100 yards
11. $1150 total cost for standard colors ($1175 non-member price)
12. $30 Shipping to the Lower 48 states, additional to AK & HI
13. About a 3 month wait, mainly for the custom ordered stock, could be shorter, could be longer as well.

The rifles come completely assembled and zeroed at 100 yards. We fire the minimum amount of rounds to zero the rifle, usually 4-6. These few rounds should not interfere with the barrel break-in procedure by the owner if they elect to do so. Unfortunately the stocks take about 6-12 weeks to get in from the time we place the order so exact completion dates cannot be provided. The package may change if new products are released that will perform better. The performance of the rifle cannot be guaranteed but they all seem to be shooting around .5 - .75 MOA or better while zeroing without any break in.

OPTIONS

While I tried to put together a good package for most entry level shooters, it by no means will be what everyone wants, so I thought I would offer a few options. Below are a list of the available options and their cost (N/C = No Charge):

• N/C - Calibers: 308, 243, .22-250, .223
• +$375 - 300 Win Mag (Not available with mk1 stock. Includes Parkerized finish).
• +$50 - 20" barrel length, .308 and .223 only. (.223 has 1:9" twist)
• N/C - Light Tactical (Mk1) or Full Tactical Stock (Mk2)
• +$150 - Mk2 Fully adjustable tactical stock
• +$30 - Swivel Version Harris Bipod
• +$100 - TacOps Large Bolt knob Attached
• +$150 - Barrel Porting
• +$306 - Burris Fullfield 2 Tac30 4.5-14x42mm Ballistic Mildot Reticle
• +$580 - Burris XTR 3-12x50mm Mildot
• +$165 - Leupold Mark AR 3-9x40mm T2 Knobs, Mildot
• +$300 - Leupold Mark AR 4-12x40mm T2 Knobs, Mildot
• +$345 - Leupold Mark AR 6-18x40mm T1 Knobs, Mildot
• +$620 - Leupold Mark 4 4.5-14x40mm LR/T Target Knobs & Mildots
• +$170 - Bushnell 3200 5-15x40mm Tactical with Mildot reticle
• +$425 - Bushnell 4200 6-24x50mm Tactical with Mildot reticle
• +$481 - Bushnell 4200 3-12x44mm Tactical with Illum Mildot FFP
• +$470 - Bushnell 6500 2.5-16x42mm Tactical with Mildot reticle
• +$250 - Storm Case with cut foam. (additional $20 will be added for shipping)
• +$POR - Any other scope of your choice, contact us for pricing
• N/C - For solid and webbed colors from Bell and Carlson
• +$35 - Any camouflage color from Bell and Carlson

Yes, the complete package price, all assembled and ready to go is $1150 plus $30 shipping and handling to your FFL dealer. Of course, we require a signed copy of your dealers FFL for us to ship it to them. A fax is fine and our fax number is: (815)301-8336. Once we receive payment and the FFL then we ship it to your dealer and he will then do the firearms transfer to you. All dealers know the process so do not hesitate to ask your local gun shop about handling the transfer for you. If you are interested in this package or have questions, please feel free to email me at mele@snipercentral.com.


<!--CURRENT INVENTORY

(03/17/2009) We have a 308 rifle available completed ready to go. It has a Mk1 stock,green with webbing, Bushnell Elite 3200 5-15x40 Tactical scope, and Harris bipod. New, complete rifle packagefor $1150 plus $25 for shipping.
If interested, contact us : mele@snipercentral.com.

-->PAYMENT OPTIONS


There are three payment options for purchasing one of these rifle packages.

• Full payment up front and we ship the rifle to your FFL dealer when completed.
• 50% down gets the project rolling, the balance is due before shipping the rifle to the FFL dealer.
• Layaway. 25% down with 25% due each month until paid off, and then we ship the rifle.

...

Or this one for a bit less but every bit as good.

http://www.snipercentral.com/entrypackage.htm

 

[ithaca_deerslayer]

I say, give it a try and see what you think of it.

For ammo, if you are having trouble with groups, try Federal Gold Medal Match 168 grain. They cost about $35 a box of 20, but my Savage .308 likes them plenty

The sniper central package for $1175 is really something to consider. They've already got a good stock and good scope mounted, and I assume a good trigger adjustment?

One thing to really think about is how good is the Remington trigger you are looking at? I don't know. I've always liked the 700, but the good ones I've shot have had custom trigger jobs.

The lowly Savage has a very nice adjustable trigger, just take the stock off and turn the screw according to the factory instructions. I'm not familiar with Remington's recent attempt at an adustable trigger (if the model you are looking at even has it).

Still, for $499, the purchase won't be a bad decision.

 

[chuckman]

The price isn't bad, but if you want a precison long-range rifle (i.e., "sniper" rifle) just pony up the money for the Sniper Central package. Yeah, it's a lot more, but in the end it'll be a lot less than buying the Remy from Dick's and upgrading, free-floating, etc.

 

[04gtmustang]

I don't know much about it but from what I've heard its the entry level 700. You get what you pay for but the potential is there if you're willing to upgrade it. If you just want a basic bolt gun in that price range look elsewhere. Savage and Tikka offer a better rifle for that money in that price range. Just my opinion.

thats exactly what i did it was actually an r700 ADL and i upgraded it and put a mcmillan A-5 stock on it and a super sniper optics and now its awesome! very nice gun to shoot.

 

[ScrappyDoo]

Areas to look at on a Remington 700 bolt action:

Blued or stainless finish -- your preference. Some expensive models are titanium, or have a very weather-resistant synthetic treatment applied that can be any color.

Barrel length/contour -- your choice, except I'd avoid the triangular barrel with the integral muzzle brake. The triangular contour is a tacti-cool gimmick that does not really increase rigidity, and the integral brake is ineffective as a brake (it's just machined-in slots, not really an expansion chamber) while increasing loudness and flash, and decreasing effective barrel length (and thus lowering muzzle velocity).

Stock -- the cheap ones are going to be injection-molded plastic (rather than fiberglass/Kevlar/graphite) with no internal aluminum insert at the action or full-length, no pillar-bedding of the action screws, and no free-floating of the barrel.

Jeweling refers to an engine-turning treatment (done with a spinning metal brush and an abrasive paste) of the bolt that gives it a "jeweled" or faceted appearance. It is mostly cosmetic, although it does smooth things a bit and retains a bit of lubrication. One downside is that it reflects light.

-ET

Thank you for everything and especially the Jeweling I have been wondering!!!!

Its an entry level rifle. Did it have a triangular barrel?? If you want a "sniper rifle" its gonna cost lots of $$ whether you buy it the way you want it or make it the way you want it. $400 for the action alone is about right. No the particular model isnt bedded or free-floated do you intend to shoot moa or sub moa groups often?? If its a fairly accurate longer range gun your looking for, why not, buy it, shoot the daylights out of it, and then upgrade as you go?

Heres a suggestion below. Its a little more money but has more bells and whistles.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_57/products_id/42070

Thank you too! vERY nice I would like that very much!


Puppy and Zombie Steve very good and solid advice info, thanks you very much!

Buy this one. It's already upgraded.

http://www.snipercentral.com/rementrypack.phtml

Complete Remington 700 Package - $1150
($1175 non-member price)

AWESOME I wish I just don't have that cash but that is what I really want, I may just save up for that one!!!!


ithaca I like your thinking and your style lol What the hecks, it's only $500 and I'd get a rifle outta it right? and I really also like Savage too, not lowly at all IMHO.

Chuckman, I think I really should just save up for that package too.

thanks all very much for the help and info.

 

[mboylan]

I say, give it a try and see what you think of it.

For ammo, if you are having trouble with groups, try Federal Gold Medal Match 168 grain. They cost about $35 a box of 20, but my Savage .308 likes them plenty

The sniper central package for $1175 is really something to consider. They've already got a good stock and good scope mounted, and I assume a good trigger adjustment?

One thing to really think about is how good is the Remington trigger you are looking at? I don't know. I've always liked the 700, but the good ones I've shot have had custom trigger jobs.

The lowly Savage has a very nice adjustable trigger, just take the stock off and turn the screw according to the factory instructions. I'm not familiar with Remington's recent attempt at an adustable trigger (if the model you are looking at even has it).

Still, for $499, the purchase won't be a bad decision.

Remington triggers are already adjustable 3 ways (sear engagement, overtravel and pull). It's easy to dial in a 3 pound pull that breaks like glass.