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Got one. 5906 TSW

It shoots .356 TSW ammo (I have three boxes). It can also shoot 9mm .355 ammo.

Mine was made it the S&W Performance center in the early 90's. It was made with a little more care and enhancements other than the regular 5906.

Mine has night sights, 3.5lbs trigger, .356 TSW barrel, Slide that says S&W Performance Center 5906TSW and mags that say S&W Performance center on them.

It shoots great but it's heavy (all stainless steel) compared to Glocks, M&Ps or XDs.

It's a safe queen now.
 
I have a 5943TSW and a 4013TSW. Also have equivalent models as regular 3rd generation guns (the 4013TSW in it's TSW configuration was a double stack, so I'll say the equivalent is my 6906). Supposedly, the TSW guns have different frame rails and modifications for increased accuracy and reliability. I really can't tell the difference between my TSWs vs. 3rd generation guns. For service guns, they have very good to surprising accuracy.

BTW, Performance Center TSWs are a whole 'nother animal.
 
I have a 4003TSW. It is the first handgun I bought.....and the last one I'd sell.

I've heard that they go through the Performance Center, but I don't know for sure. They are excellent guns though. They feel solidly built, and mine has been 100%, and is very accurate.

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I have a three piece set of TSW models; the 3555TSW, the 4053TSW and the 4553TSW in 9mm, 40 S&W and .45 ACP respectively.

Note that they are all DAO with alloy frames with no light rails and all take shorter mags that the more recent TSWs.

Mine also have circular cut-out plugs where the slide safety would have gone as opposed to the irregular shaped plug used in later TSW versions.

They are all very good shooters, but I still prefer Glocks or the lower bore axis of S&W M&P models.
 
The TSW line has enjoyed continuing refinement since first introduced.

Some of the earliest TSW models had the slides and frames matched and numbered during production, but that eventually changed at some point in later production.

Some of the basic changes and improvements over the standard 3rd gen models include ...

Box-type rails instead of the earlier stepped-rails. These are larger, have tighter tolerances and can enhance potential accuracy.

Delayed unlocking, allowing a further reduction in pressure before the barrel unlocks from the slide, which can help lessen felt recoil.

Thicker barrel hoods (and later production models also incorporated the visual loaded chamber inspection port in the barrel tab).

The slides were later machined (after the early 'original' models) to accept the optional spring-loaded, decock-only assembly which returns the decocking levers to the ready-to-fire position after decocking (no 'On-Safe' position). This can be seen when the left side lever is depressed, in front of and under the lower edge of the lever (an additional machined recess and hole located within the recess which serves to anchor the end of a spring on the optional assembly).

There were some minor changes when S&W redesigned their DAO parts to be retrofitted in TDA models (so the same frames and slides could be used regardless of whether the gun was configured for TDA or DAO).

Accessory rails were later added (riveted) to the frame and current production 4006/4566TSW models are available with the option of having the rails machined into the frame itself.

The 'original' compact models (3913/4013/4513TSW's) lacked some of the changes which were introduced in the wider TSW line introduced a bit later, although they did incorporate the box-type rails and delayed unlocking, for example. The early 3913/4513TSW's also had cutaway grip profiles which accepted lesser capacity magazines (1 rd less) than the same compact models subsequently produced.

There have been some continuing changes to the way some of the parts are machined, recoil guide rod designs and some ongoing refinements to the production of many of the standard parts which are shared among the earlier models, both standard & TSW production. Some of the changes and improvements aren't easily visible to the eye unless the pistol is detail-stripped and you know what to look for compared to earlier models.

All things considered, the TSW line is an improvement over the earlier 3rd gen models. I feel they can stand alongside anything produced by Sig Sauer, for example, when it comes to production quality, fit, function, reliability and inherent accuracy.

When I attended a Sig Sauer armorer class we were told that the Short Reset Trigger had been designed to compete against the fast-resetting standard S&W traditional double action trigger in an earlier LE contract bid. While Sig wasn't awarded that contract, they did decide to incorporate the faster resetting (SA) TDA trigger design (new sear & sear spring) in some of their model line.

The TSW line is still being produced and sold to LE agencies (it's in the LE catalog).

During some of the early negotiations between S&W and the CHP there was some discussion of maybe producing 4003TSW's for them using a Scandium aluminum alloy frame, instead of the standard aluminum frame, but they eventually decided to remain with the stainless steel frame model (4006TSW). I was rather hoping they would start offering the Scandium aluminum alloy, myself, and was personally hoping a 3913TSW would be offered with a lightweight Scandium frame. ;) Didn't happen, though. Scandium aluminum frames are more expensive to produce.

I own a pair of original 4103TSW & 4513TSW pistols. I also carried some current production issued models prior to my retirement. I've always found them to be durable, reliable and accurate pistols which would feed a wide variety of factory ammunition.

I always wanted to add a 3913TSW to my working collection to complement my late production 3913.

The aluminum frame 4003/4563 models are much lighter to carry than the all-steel models, although many folks feel they also have a bit more felt recoil, too. I can say that carrying around an all-steel 4006/4566 is like carrying around a M686 4" revolver all day ... but they do make for enjoyable range guns. ;)
 
Thanks.

It's certainly not all-inclusive, though, and there are any number of details I didn't have time to go into in any depth ... and that doesn't even count the myriad things I'm sure I still don't know about them. ;)
 
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Thanks.

It's certainly not all-inclusive, though, and there are any number of details I didn't have time to go into in any depth ... and that doesn't even count the myriad things I'm sure I still don't know about them. ;)
Now you have me thinking about getting one of them. :supergrin:

How do they stack up to the Glocks like the 19 and 23?
 
I own a 3953 TSW, 4053TSW and a 4013TSW, all pre-rail, as well as 2 other S&W third generation pistols. I think they are very under-rated and there are some great deals out there as a result. I have other pistols: Glocks, Sigs, XD's, Berettas, Walther's, Colts, etc., but the only pistols I have never had a jam or other issue with are S&W's. They're not perceived as sexy and won't get you accepted into the pistol du jour fraternity at the range, but they work and work well. In particular, the 3953TSW and 4053TSW are my favorites due to slimness and consistent trigger pull and shoot great for me. It's all personal preference with quality pistols being made by all the top brands, but the grip angle, trigger, sights, etc., of the TSW's fit me. I still like other pistols, but TSW's just give me a feeling of comfort from my experience through the years. YMMV.
 
I have an earlier 4513TSW without the rail and like it just fine. I find it to be very accurate also. I wish it had some of the enhancements of the later version but would not want the rail. I've heard these will even feed empty cases but I'm not sure that means anything. For a fact mine has never jammed and I've fed it all kinds of handloads. I have several other Smith autos in 9mm and .45 and have had good luck with all of them.
 
I have an older 4506 and I kid you not it will feed empty cases. Try that with a 1911! They are heavy, solid pistols and are defiantely a good product if thats what you are looking for. The DA triggers on the S&W are long and heavy but the SA breaks nice.

If you can get a good deal on one I would definately pick one up.
 
I picked up a 4553 TSW a few weeks ago and it's already wormed it's way into my carry stable. Looks like it's going to be a great carry gun. Reasonably light, very flat and thin, eats anything and has a very smooth DA pull. I can't find a thing to complain about, and for me that's saying something.

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I have an older 4506 and I kid you not it will feed empty cases. Try that with a 1911! They are heavy, solid pistols and are defiantely a good product if thats what you are looking for. The DA triggers on the S&W are long and heavy but the SA breaks nice.

If you can get a good deal on one I would definately pick one up.
I have 2 of the original 4506s, with the squared off trigger guard. I think they only made those about 2-3 years, before changing to the 4506-1. They are big, heavy and first class fit and finish. The -1 uses the 10 mm frame which deleted the lightning cuts, in the front part of the frame. They certainly are heavier than the original 4506.
 
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