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I've never started the name with a K, I prefer a P. As in, the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia...
 
Yep, that's why I spell Kalifornia with "K" when I'm posting stuff on websites. To show my contempt at the socialist liberal government we have in this state.
Dan in (K)alifornia
 
I don't speel it with a "K"--but I do try to show my contempt! :steamed:
Right there with Ya Gary.
I was born here, and I will fight to restore the rights of all Californians (with a 'C' if you please). I don't agree with the laws but would rather show my contempt by writing my elected officials, educating those that don't know about the facts (especially registered voters), Voting!, Showing my support at events (like the 9th district court Nordyde trial in SF which I took a day off work to attend), and introducing others to the joy of shooting. Changing minds will change votes. Some of the people here believe the media because they personally don't own guns or have ever been shooting. If nothing else I show them that there are law abiding gun owners who handle, and store their firearms safely as well as enjoy the sports associated with shooting while being family oriented, good neighbors.
Most guns are owned by law abiding people we only hear about the gang-bangers, and drive by's because a law abiding gun owner isn't news, and doesn't get ratings!.
When people deface my state flag or misspell my state's name it may show contempt for the laws to some but IMO also shows contempt for the residents of this fine state regardless of their personal beliefs or how they personally voted. Grouping ANY regional area as having the same values is incorrect, and stereotyping people because of where they live only shows your own ignorance, and unfounded prejudice. I am smarter than that......are you?
 
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Right there with Ya Gary.
I was born here, and I will fight to restore the rights of all Californians (with a 'C' if you please). I don't agree with the laws but would rather show my contempt by writing my elected officials, educating those that don't know about the facts (especially registered voters), Voting!, Showing my support at events (like the 9th district court Nordyde trial in SF which I took a day off work to attend), and introducing others to the joy of shooting. Changing minds will change votes. Some of the people here believe the media because they personally don't own guns or have ever been shooting. If nothing else I show them that there are law abiding gun owners who handle, and store their firearms safely as well as enjoy the sports associated with shooting while being family oriented, good neighbors.
Most guns are owned by law abiding people we only hear about the gang-bangers, and drive by's because a law abiding gun owner isn't news, and doesn't get ratings!.
When people deface my state flag or misspell my state's name it may show contempt for the laws to some but IMO also shows contempt for the residents of this fine state regardless of their personal beliefs or how they personally voted. Grouping ANY regional area as having the same values is incorrect, and stereotyping people because of where they live only shows your own ignorance, and unfounded prejudice. I am smarter than that......are you?
This was very well said and I wish more people felt this way.
 
I wish Kalifornia would adjust there laws to more American 2nd Amendment Views. Kalifornia is a beautiful big state with a lot of differnt terrain and types of people not to mention a true international mix of people. Growing up there I remamber only Bad Guys and Cops were the only ones carring a gun. "Look he has a gun call the cops". Heck I carry a gun every day now as I have a concealed wepons permit in AZ.

Kalifornia is the Brady Bills No.1 state on there report card on Gun Laws. It gets an F on my list of states.
PHXGlock
 
true, kommiefornia is a beautiful state topographically speaking, but the government sucks. kinda like the UK, Au or Canada.
California has great weather and a lot of wide open space up north. Some great fishing on the coast or the High Sierras, Great Mountain Biking, not to mention I found it easyier to get higher paying jobs there and felt I had more rights as an Employee.

I dont miss the LA traffic, and the Gun Laws of that state. Cant carry in your Car, Gun Stores have a weak selection, people there have gun phobia. It's just the political climate of the place, you have people from all over the world who see the excellent weather and oprotunities and dident have the right to carry back in there home country. Guns are very American, California, New York, and New Jersey are centers for fresh off the boat Imergrants. Even my ExWife is from Egypt. Her parents were very far from american even having been here for 40 years now. With all that being said I think it would be a good Idea for every one of us to introduce a "Minority" A forenier, Black person, A Gay Person, A woman , to our sport of shooting. These people are the ones who Voted Obama into office. And Clinton too. If intercity law abiding Black people in South Centeral L.A. had CCW permits, went to the shooting range for fun once a month the thugs who treaten there families and jump there kids into the gangs would think twice about this.

One of the big problems with our political system is that you have one two parties who have the Ability to Become high level elected officials. You have two packages the Right and the Left and both parties are flawed. There respective parties control the bills they sign and law that change.

The NRA needs to Campaign to the "Minoritiy" Group on the costal cities. There votes are needed to change The Brady Bills outstanding examples of gun control. I look forward to walking across the Golden Gate Bridge with a Model 29 S&W 44.mag on my hip. That is what I call Liberation, Homeland Security, Equal Rights.
PHXGlock
 
With all that being said I think it would be a good Idea for every one of us to introduce a "Minority" A forenier, Black person, A Gay Person, A woman , to our sport of shooting. These people are the ones who Voted Obama into office. And Clinton too. If intercity law abiding Black people in South Centeral L.A. had CCW permits, went to the shooting range for fun once a month the thugs who treaten there families and jump there kids into the gangs would think twice about this.
Now we're thinking alike.
Last guy I took to the range was an Asian guy (Mongolian decent but Russian national).
I took him to my local range (where they know me), and not only did he get to shoot my AR, and 2 of my Glocks but also got to fire a few rounds through a revolver, and 1911 (we met some nice people there that were interested in my Glocks so we traded for a few rounds so they could give it a whirl).
He had so much fun his first time ever shooting a gun (and I made sure he brought a camera) that he rushed home to share his experience with his friends, and family.
I provided the ammo, and payed his entrance to the range but the very next time I saw him he handed me a $100 bill, and asked if we could go again when he saved up more money to help me buy ammo. I said, "Sure!" (I love the range anyway). He will be getting his U.S. citizenship in a month or two, and registering to vote soon after (along with buying a handgun for his 21st birthday in less than a year.....My guess is he'll go Glock). Very nice kid.

By doing this I not only had a great time myself but also introduced an immigrant (and one of the younger generation) to the joy of shooting, and safe firearm handling.
Would have been worth the cost of ammo to me for the votes it will gain in our state (even if he didn't give me any money later.....I never asked for any).
Just so you know he's the guy who makes my coffee at the local coffee house, and shared his experience with everyone there. I have two others (young ladies who work there (both registered voters)) who would like me to take them next so they can learn how to shoot. :)
 
Now we're thinking alike.
Last guy I took to the range was an Asian guy (Mongolian decent but Russian national).
I took him to my local range (where they know me), and not only did he get to shoot my AR, and 2 of my Glocks but also got to fire a few rounds through a revolver, and 1911 (we met some nice people there that were interested in my Glocks so we traded for a few rounds so they could give it a whirl).
He had so much fun his first time ever shooting a gun (and I made sure he brought a camera) that he rushed home to share his experience with his friends, and family.
I provided the ammo, and payed his entrance to the range but the very next time I saw him he handed me a $100 bill, and asked if we could go again when he saved up more money to help me buy ammo. I said, "Sure!" (I love the range anyway). He will be getting his U.S. citizenship in a month or two, and registering to vote soon after (along with buying a handgun for his 21st birthday in less than a year). Very nice kid.

By doing this I not only had a great time myself but also introduced an immigrant (and one of the younger generation) to the joy of shooting, and safe firearm handling.
Would have been worth the cost of ammo to me for the votes it will gain in our state.
Just so you know he's the guy who makes my coffee at the local coffee house, and shared his experience with everyone there. I have two others (young ladies who work there (both registered voters)) who would like me to take them next so they can learn how to shoot. :)
Way to go! :perfect10: :thumbsup:
 
PHXGlock
Hopefully this will be changing. I have tired of my letter writing campaigns and phone calls to my elected officials with no results, they have completely lost touch with the people.
So last week I went over to the County elections office and picked up the paperwork to run for Governor in this next election. I know it's a long shot but what the heck, and if by chance I am elected, some of these draconian gun laws will be canned. I don't have any skeletons in my closet and I don't owe any special interest group anything. This is not meant to be a campaign speech, I'm just letting good gun owners know that they will have a friend in the next election. If anyone has questions feel free to email me
 
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