Just wondering.
10 round mags w/ +2 extension legal in California?
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Just wondering.
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Do not do this.
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Related question for those who were around last time. If AWB II does go through, do I have to take the +2's off of my wife's G26?
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GT never ceases to amaze me.
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Most likely the new +2's will have dates stamped on them if that were to happen. Same as with current magazines that say LE and GOV only. They will have a new stamping if it were to happen.
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Read your state's law and.....
DON'T BREAK THE LAW!!!!
That's why WE are law abiding gun owners.
DON'T BREAK THE LAW!!!!
That's why WE are law abiding gun owners.
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California's not my state that's why I'm curious.
How about 10 +1 in the chamber then?
How about 10 +1 in the chamber then?
Pre ban mags are legal in california. Fixing preban mags with out of state parts is legal as well. Modifying a pre ban mag that alters its original function is not legal. Selling, lending, manufacturing, and importing pre ban mags are not legal.
BTW, even if you have pre ban mags you better have some sort of proof... Receipt, date stamp, whatever... this is California we are talking about.
10 +1 is fine. But i'm sure they are working on that...
CA DOJ has stated that the burden of proof on determining if a person owns a large capacity magazine before 01-01-2000 is on the state not on the person possessing the large capacity magazines.
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This is a double edged sword. What happens when your gun becomes illegal?
What happens when your government becomes tyrant. do you still follow the laws?
I'm just putting that out there. CA is one of those governments IMO. They restrict personal freedoms.
It is however illegal in your state to do so.
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pre-ban magazines are legal although they are NON TRANSFERABLE, NON IMPORTABLE (EVEN TO YOURSELF FROM YOURSELF). If it holds more than 10 you better have owned it before 94' IN cali. Honestly I really wonder how california LEO would act upon seeing something that held more than 10? and would most know the legal window of possesion or forget the concept of grandfathering law? My gut instict is most would confiscate them on sight.
Now what I would really like to know is if they are direct descendant transferable as in father to son as apparently some guns are only legally allowed to be transfered this way if I'm not mistaken. Anyone know this?
Now what I would really like to know is if they are direct descendant transferable as in father to son as apparently some guns are only legally allowed to be transfered this way if I'm not mistaken. Anyone know this?
Here is the actual CA law and CA DOJ letter pertaining to large capacity magazines.
CA Penal Code 12020
(a) Any person in this state who does any of the following is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison:
(2) Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-capacity magazine.
(b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any of the following:
(19) The sale of, giving of, lending of, importation into this state of, or purchase of, any large-capacity magazine to or by any federal, state, county, city and county, or city agency that is charged with the enforcement of any law, for use by agency employees in the discharge of their official duties whether on or off duty, and where the use is authorized by the agency and is within the course and scope of their duties.
(20) The sale to, lending to, transfer to, purchase by, receipt of, or importation into this state of, a large capacity magazine by a sworn peace officer as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2 who is authorized to carry a firearm in the course and scope of his or her duties.
(21) The sale or purchase of any large-capacity magazine to or by a person licensed pursuant to Section 12071.
(22) The loan of a lawfully possessed large-capacity magazine between two individuals if all of the following conditions are met:
(A) The person being loaned the large-capacity magazine is not prohibited by Section 12021, 12021.1, or 12101 of this code or Section 8100 or 8103 of the Welfare and Institutions Code from possessing firearms or ammunition.
(B) The loan of the large-capacity magazine occurs at a place or location where the possession of the large-capacity magazine is not otherwise prohibited and the person who lends the large-capacity magazine remains in the accessible vicinity of the person to whom the large-capacity magazine is loaned.
(23) The importation of a large-capacity magazine by a person who lawfully possessed the large-capacity magazine in the state prior to January 1, 2000, lawfully took it out of the state, and is returning to the state with the large-capacity magazine previously lawfully possessed in the state.
(24) The lending or giving of any large-capacity magazine to a person licensed pursuant to Section 12071, or to a gunsmith, for the purposes of maintenance, repair, or modification of that large-capacity magazine.
(25) The return to its owner of any large-capacity magazine by a person specified in paragraph (24).
(26) The importation into this state of, or sale of, any large-capacity magazine by a person who has been issued a permit to engage in those activities pursuant to Section 12079, when those activities are in accordance with the terms and conditions of that permit.
(27) The sale of, giving of, lending of, importation into this state of, or purchase of, any large-capacity magazine, to or by entities that operate armored vehicle businesses pursuant to the laws of this state.
(28) The lending of large-capacity magazines by the entities specified in paragraph (27) to their authorized employees, while in the course and scope of their employment for purposes that pertain to the entity's armored vehicle business.
(29) The return of those large-capacity magazines to those entities specified in paragraph (27) by those employees specified in paragraph (28).
(30)(A) The manufacture of a large-capacity magazine for any federal, state, county, city and county, or city agency that is charged with the enforcement of any law, for use by agency employees in the discharge of their official duties whether on or off duty, and where the use is authorized by the agency and is within the course and scope of their duties.
(B) The manufacture of a large-capacity magazine for use by a sworn peace officer as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2 who is authorized to carry a firearm in the course and scope of his or her duties.
(C) The manufacture of a large-capacity magazine for export or for sale to government agencies or the military pursuant to applicable federal regulations.
(31) The loan of a large-capacity magazine for use solely as a prop for a motion picture, television, or video production.
(32) The purchase of a large-capacity magazine by the holder of a special weapons permit issued pursuant to Section 12095, 12230, 12250, 12286, or 12305, for any of the following purposes:
(A) For use solely as a prop for a motion picture, television, or video production.
(B) For export pursuant to federal regulations.
(C) For resale to law enforcement agencies, government agencies, or the military, pursuant to applicable federal regulations.
(c)(25) As used in this section, "large-capacity magazine" means any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include any of the following:
(A) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
(B) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
(C) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm.
CA DOJ letter Clarifying CA law regarding large capacity magazines.
CA Penal Code 12020
(a) Any person in this state who does any of the following is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison:
(2) Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-capacity magazine.
(b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any of the following:
(19) The sale of, giving of, lending of, importation into this state of, or purchase of, any large-capacity magazine to or by any federal, state, county, city and county, or city agency that is charged with the enforcement of any law, for use by agency employees in the discharge of their official duties whether on or off duty, and where the use is authorized by the agency and is within the course and scope of their duties.
(20) The sale to, lending to, transfer to, purchase by, receipt of, or importation into this state of, a large capacity magazine by a sworn peace officer as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2 who is authorized to carry a firearm in the course and scope of his or her duties.
(21) The sale or purchase of any large-capacity magazine to or by a person licensed pursuant to Section 12071.
(22) The loan of a lawfully possessed large-capacity magazine between two individuals if all of the following conditions are met:
(A) The person being loaned the large-capacity magazine is not prohibited by Section 12021, 12021.1, or 12101 of this code or Section 8100 or 8103 of the Welfare and Institutions Code from possessing firearms or ammunition.
(B) The loan of the large-capacity magazine occurs at a place or location where the possession of the large-capacity magazine is not otherwise prohibited and the person who lends the large-capacity magazine remains in the accessible vicinity of the person to whom the large-capacity magazine is loaned.
(23) The importation of a large-capacity magazine by a person who lawfully possessed the large-capacity magazine in the state prior to January 1, 2000, lawfully took it out of the state, and is returning to the state with the large-capacity magazine previously lawfully possessed in the state.
(24) The lending or giving of any large-capacity magazine to a person licensed pursuant to Section 12071, or to a gunsmith, for the purposes of maintenance, repair, or modification of that large-capacity magazine.
(25) The return to its owner of any large-capacity magazine by a person specified in paragraph (24).
(26) The importation into this state of, or sale of, any large-capacity magazine by a person who has been issued a permit to engage in those activities pursuant to Section 12079, when those activities are in accordance with the terms and conditions of that permit.
(27) The sale of, giving of, lending of, importation into this state of, or purchase of, any large-capacity magazine, to or by entities that operate armored vehicle businesses pursuant to the laws of this state.
(28) The lending of large-capacity magazines by the entities specified in paragraph (27) to their authorized employees, while in the course and scope of their employment for purposes that pertain to the entity's armored vehicle business.
(29) The return of those large-capacity magazines to those entities specified in paragraph (27) by those employees specified in paragraph (28).
(30)(A) The manufacture of a large-capacity magazine for any federal, state, county, city and county, or city agency that is charged with the enforcement of any law, for use by agency employees in the discharge of their official duties whether on or off duty, and where the use is authorized by the agency and is within the course and scope of their duties.
(B) The manufacture of a large-capacity magazine for use by a sworn peace officer as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2 who is authorized to carry a firearm in the course and scope of his or her duties.
(C) The manufacture of a large-capacity magazine for export or for sale to government agencies or the military pursuant to applicable federal regulations.
(31) The loan of a large-capacity magazine for use solely as a prop for a motion picture, television, or video production.
(32) The purchase of a large-capacity magazine by the holder of a special weapons permit issued pursuant to Section 12095, 12230, 12250, 12286, or 12305, for any of the following purposes:
(A) For use solely as a prop for a motion picture, television, or video production.
(B) For export pursuant to federal regulations.
(C) For resale to law enforcement agencies, government agencies, or the military, pursuant to applicable federal regulations.
(c)(25) As used in this section, "large-capacity magazine" means any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include any of the following:
(A) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
(B) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
(C) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm.
CA DOJ letter Clarifying CA law regarding large capacity magazines.
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If enough people are outlaws with you, things can change. If there aren't you all the nail that gets hammered down.
Can we get some 1% GLOCKER patches made up ahead of time?:rofl:
Three or four years ago I was travelling around the western USA by RV and my journey happened to take me through the great state of California. Before I left my home, I bought a few 10-round magazines for my G19. While in the great state of California, I kept the G19 unloaded with the action opened, locked in a seperate case from the loaded magazines and both stored in a compartment that was not accessible from the driver's compartment.
That was to try and not break the laws of the great state of California. I did not spend much time in the great state of California although I would have loved to have been able to do so--it is a beautiful state. Unfortunately, the great state of California did not make me feel welcome so I took myself and my money elsewhere.
That was to try and not break the laws of the great state of California. I did not spend much time in the great state of California although I would have loved to have been able to do so--it is a beautiful state. Unfortunately, the great state of California did not make me feel welcome so I took myself and my money elsewhere.
That is legal. The capacity cap is specific to the magazine.California's not my state that's why I'm curious.
How about 10 +1 in the chamber then?
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+1 in the chamber doesn't increase the MAGAZINE'S capacity.California's not my state that's why I'm curious.
How about 10 +1 in the chamber then?
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