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So after a 6 month wait, I finally have my can (hybrid 46). I put it on my 30s and fired a few rounds, and it’s really nice to not have to wear ear plugs.

But now I’m looking for a bolt action rifle in 308 to suppress. I’m really not looking to spend a fortune, but I want a good accurate rifle that I can hunt with as well as just plink with.

I’m not necessarily opposed to buying a rifle, then taking it to a machinist to thread the barrel, but it would be nice if I can buy one already threaded. I’m really looking to stay around 18-22” barrel with the shorter the better as it’s going to have a can on it.

My current deer rifle is a browning a bolt 30-06, which I love, but the barrel is tapered and can’t be threaded without cutting it shorter (which I’m not sure I want to do). Any thoughts on this?

Ive looked at the savage axis 308 and ruger American 308. How are these rifles, or would I be much better served to spend a bit more and get a new x bolt, tikka, etc?

Sorry for the long winded post, and thank you to all that read and replys.
 
So after a 6 month wait, I finally have my can (hybrid 46). I put it on my 30s and fired a few rounds, and it’s really nice to not have to wear ear plugs.

But now I’m looking for a bolt action rifle in 308 to suppress. I’m really not looking to spend a fortune, but I want a good accurate rifle that I can hunt with as well as just plink with.

I’m not necessarily opposed to buying a rifle, then taking it to a machinist to thread the barrel, but it would be nice if I can buy one already threaded. I’m really looking to stay around 18-22” barrel with the shorter the better as it’s going to have a can on it.

My current deer rifle is a browning a bolt 30-06, which I love, but the barrel is tapered and can’t be threaded without cutting it shorter (which I’m not sure I want to do). Any thoughts on this?

Ive looked at the savage axis 308 and ruger American 308. How are these rifles, or would I be much better served to spend a bit more and get a new x bolt, tikka, etc?

Sorry for the long winded post, and thank you to all that read and replys.

Silencer ready with threaded muzzle.
 

Silencer ready with threaded muzzle.
I don't know much about this rifle, but note the it has a 1:7 twist which is good for heavy bullets loaded to subsonic velocities. I think someone knew what they were doing when they put this one together.

Most 308 rifles have a slower twist which may not work, so be careful about buying any old 308 and then shooting heavy bullets slow. I used 1:7.5 for my subsonic 308 and it has worked well with 220 grain Berry's bullets.
 
What’s the most you want to spend. Ruger, Mossberg, Bergara… all well under 1000
Depending on what you want to load/shoot, these rifles may or may not work. Most probably have a 1:10 twist. The OP would do well to figure out what he wants to shoot before buying the 308. It will save frustration later. My recommendation is to plan on shooting heavy bullets (>200 gr) subsonic because they are very quiet - especially in a bolt action. Then buy the rifle that will shoot them.

I think the Ruger American has a 1:10 twist and the Savage Axis 1:9 when chambered in 308.

You can always go with a 300 blackout, as all the ones I've seen have a fast twist.
 
i have a Bergara and love it , its a better Rem 700.
 
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I don't know much about this rifle, but note the it has a 1:7 twist which is good for heavy bullets loaded to subsonic velocities. I think someone knew what they were doing when they put this one together.

Most 308 rifles have a slower twist which may not work, so be careful about buying any old 308 and then shooting heavy bullets slow. I used 1:7.5 for my subsonic 308 and it has worked well with 220 grain Berry's bullets.
The CZ 600 Alpha .308 has a 1:10 rifling rate.
 
So after a 6 month wait, I finally have my can (hybrid 46). I put it on my 30s and fired a few rounds, and it’s really nice to not have to wear ear plugs.

But now I’m looking for a bolt action rifle in 308 to suppress. I’m really not looking to spend a fortune, but I want a good accurate rifle that I can hunt with as well as just plink with.

I’m not necessarily opposed to buying a rifle, then taking it to a machinist to thread the barrel, but it would be nice if I can buy one already threaded. I’m really looking to stay around 18-22” barrel with the shorter the better as it’s going to have a can on it.

My current deer rifle is a browning a bolt 30-06, which I love, but the barrel is tapered and can’t be threaded without cutting it shorter (which I’m not sure I want to do). Any thoughts on this?

Ive looked at the savage axis 308 and ruger American 308. How are these rifles, or would I be much better served to spend a bit more and get a new x bolt, tikka, etc?

Sorry for the long winded post, and thank you to all that read and replys.
Just curious, but what is the advantage of suppressing a 308 compared to a 300 Blackout? Either one would have to have the same ballistics to be subsonic unless you only want the sound to be partially suppressed, and I don't know how much that could be because I have no experience with suppressors.

And isn't the Ruger American available in 300 BK with a threaded barrel?
 
Depending on what you want to load/shoot, these rifles may or may not work. Most probably have a 1:10 twist. The OP would do well to figure out what he wants to shoot before buying the 308. It will save frustration later. My recommendation is to plan on shooting heavy bullets (>200 gr) subsonic because they are very quiet - especially in a bolt action. Then buy the rifle that will shoot them.

I think the Ruger American has a 1:10 twist and the Savage Axis 1:9 when chambered in 308.

You can always go with a 300 blackout, as all the ones I've seen have a fast twist.
Yeah, that's what I am planning: it IS, after all, a .308 bullet at subsonic speeds, only the case volume it's optimized for the job.
If it is going to be a dedicated rifle for suppressor use, I think that's the way to go.
 
Yeah, that's what I am planning: it IS, after all, a .308 bullet at subsonic speeds, only the case volume it's optimized for the job.
If it is going to be a dedicated rifle for suppressor use, I think that's the way to go.
I have both. The 300 blackout in a AR-15 SBR (10.5"). My 308 is also an SBR (13.5" barrel) Remington 700. Both are very quiet with the right ammunition. I think the only advantage to a 308 is that you can shoot regular 308 rounds should you desire - yeah, it won't be as quiet, but you can do it. I have found case volume to not be a problem when I use Trail Boss powder. Works great.
 
The Ruger American Predator would fit the bill. Threaded 18" barrel and comes in around $500. If it's for hunting I'd assume subsonic friendly twist rate is not really a big deal.

It can also be modded to use AICS pattern magazines if that matters to you.
 
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Just curious, but what is the advantage of suppressing a 308 compared to a 300 Blackout? Either one would have to have the same ballistics to be subsonic unless you only want the sound to be partially suppressed, and I don't know how much that could be because I have no experience with suppressors.

And isn't the Ruger American available in 300 BK with a threaded barrel?
Because it’s also going to be a hunting rifle. From what I’ve been reading even with supers it’s going to be something like a firecracker. Substantially quieter than with no can. I’m defiantly going to buy some subs just to plink around with, but I guess the main purpose of the rifle is for hunting.
 
Because it’s also going to be a hunting rifle. From what I’ve been reading even with supers it’s going to be something like a firecracker. Substantially quieter than with no can. I’m definatly going to buy some subs just to plink around with, but I guess the main purpose of the rifle is for hunting.
In that case you would not want to use subsonic velocities for hunting but only to plink around with. Sounds like fun and it will be interesting to see how much full power ammo can be suppressed. You might also want to shorten the barrel to the minimal legal length so that the overall length with the can attached is less.
 
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In that case you would not want to use subsonic velocities for hunting but only to plink around with. Sounds like fun and it will be interesting to see how much full power ammo can be suppressed. You might also want to shorten the barrel to the minimal legal length so that the overall length with the can attached is less.
Correct, subs are just for plinking. I’ve ran federal fusion 180s in my 30-06, so I picked up some federal fusion 165s for the 308. I’m hoping they preform well.

I’m hoping to shoot it tomorrow, if I get to I’ll report on how loud the fusions are. I wasn’t able to find sub Ammo in the store, so I’ll probably have to order that.

I’m not sure if I’ll cut the barrel as it’s only 2” longer than legal, and already factory threaded.
Thank you for the replies.
 
Savage 110 Tactical. Adjustable stock, Accutrigger. Magpul detachable magazine. Already has a rail for scope mount. Threaded. I haven't priced in a while but probably $700 plus, ship, tax - maybe $750 out the door?
 
I am not Ruger's biggest fan, but I'd probably go with a Ruger American Predator or Tactical - synthetic stock, detachable magazine and factory threaded barrel.

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