[zaitcev]

This is so unfair, the 9mm guys even got 2: 43X and 48. But we don't even get factory 8-rounders. Forget the 2-tone, just an X grip would do.

UPDATE in April 2019: Since Glock isn't making us a G42X, I built one for myself! Unfortunately, since I do not have the power of Glock, its magazine capacity is only 9 rounds, not 10. I call this thing a "G42K" (pictured on the left, with SI+2 on the right for comparison):

 

[3 Cubed - 1]

This is so unfair, the 9mm guys even got 2: 43X and 48. But we don't even get factory 8-rounders. Forget the 2-tone, just an X grip would do.

Yea, I’ll believe it when I see it... In the mean time, if you want 8:

 

[yep380]

My gut feeling is the 380 craze has run its course for now. I don’t foresee much new development in its future; it’s a compromise round in compromise guns... yes, I’m aware what my username is and yes, I do own and occasionally carry a 380 (LCP).

 

[March817]

Charter Arms is coming out with a 6rd .380 revolver.

 

[zaitcev]

Charter Arms is coming out with a 6rd .380 revolver.

CA making a 6-round gun after they replaced their 9mm 6-rounders with 5-round models? I don't think so. I have a Taurus 380 (with terrible factory moon clips) and a Charter Arms Pitbull in .45 ACP, so the idea appeals to me, especially if CA make a 3" model in .380. But I do not expect them do a 6-round version. They'll just re-chamber their 5-round 9mm for it.

 

[zaitcev]

In the mean time, if you want 8:

I have both and G42 is more reliable, possibly even more accurate. The Browning has some trigger issues, so it's not as pleasant as a 1911. Its pull has an "effort hump": the resistance gets progressively greater (as it should), but then decreases before the break. It makes 1911-380 difficult to shoot accurately. The only thing that goes for that gun is its low recoil.

 

[March817]

CA making a 6-round gun after they replaced their 9mm 6-rounders with 5-round models? I don't think so. I have a Taurus 380 (with terrible factory moon clips) and a Charter Arms Pitbull in .45 ACP, so the idea appeals to me, especially if CA make a 3" model in .380. But I do not expect them do a 6-round version. They'll just re-chamber their 5-round 9mm for it.

We'll see.
http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/shot-show-2019/

 

[zaitcev]

We'll see.
http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/shot-show-2019/

Ah yes, thanks a lot. Apparently, the source is here:
https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2018/10/29/a-first-look-at-2019-s-new-guns/
"Unlike the 5-shot 9 mm version, this new stainless steel double-action revolver is built on the company's Large frame in order to accommodate a sixth shot in the cylinder."

 

[3 Cubed - 1]

I have both and G42 is more reliable, possibly even more accurate. The Browning has some trigger issues, so it's not as pleasant as a 1911. Its pull has an "effort hump": the resistance gets progressively greater (as it should), but then decreases before the break. It makes 1911-380 difficult to shoot accurately. The only thing that goes for that gun is its low recoil.

Hey thanks for the heads up. I’ve been lusting for the 1911-380 for a while now, and it’s getting closer to the top of the list. So that’s good to know.

 

[MedicineBow]

My gut feeling is the 380 craze has run its course for now. I don’t foresee much new development in its future; it’s a compromise round in compromise guns... yes, I’m aware what my username is and yes, I do own and occasionally carry a 380 (LCP).

I sense the opposite. Just because companies are making smaller mini-nines does not mean that the average user can shoot them well or fast. I can see a move toward manufacturers wanting to compete with the concept of the S&W Shield .380 EZ. A Glock 42 with a longer grip and higher capacity, and maybe some recoil spring adjustment, could work. Also, imagine if Sig could adapt the P365 to a .380, with a higher magazine capacity and the lighter, slightly shorter top end with a milder recoil spring? I see the .38 Special snubbie declining further for the occasional shooter who wants a self defense gun.

 

[Reswob]

The whole point of a .380 is a tiny BUG/pocket gun. If it's any bigger than a LCP, it should be 9mm. Even the G42 is laughably too big for a .380, why would they make an even bigger one!? I can't believe they are selling any since the 43 came out.

 

[Danielsuzuki]

I’ve said it before... I’ll take a Georgia made g28. Please.

 

[HEXE9]

The Glock 42 is the finest .380 EDC pistol ever made. Add the MagGuts and it becomes the holy grail of EDC.

Been carrying and competing [with] Glocks since 1994. And while the 19X runs a close second, the 42 is my favorite all-time Glock.

Glock 42X?

Don't know what the heck it is [or would be], but if its honest 42 bloodlines, I'll take a real close look.

 

[3 Cubed - 1]

I sense the opposite. Just because companies are making smaller mini-nines does not mean that the average user can shoot them well or fast. I can see a move toward manufacturers wanting to compete with the concept of the S&W Shield .380 EZ. A Glock 42 with a longer grip and higher capacity, and maybe some recoil spring adjustment, could work. Also, imagine if Sig could adapt the P365 to a .380, with a higher magazine capacity and the lighter, slightly shorter top end with a milder recoil spring? I see the .38 Special snubbie declining further for the occasional shooter who wants a self defense gun.

Now that, that I could see myself jumping on... a 15 round .380 365! Even with 15 rounds, it would be lighter than 10 rounds of 147gr. That would be SO fun!

 

[yep380]

I sense the opposite.

For the record: not trying to start an argument, just have a discussion.

Here's why I think the 380 has run its course:

1. It's a marginally useful round for self-defense when compared to other calibers. No, I don't want to stand in front of one, but I don't want to stand in front of any caliber round. It's diminutive size allows for: ...

2. Mouse guns: It excels in the mouse gun category, and that category is well represented (LCP/P3AT/TCP, probably missing some). These guns can't get much smaller because people actually have to shoot them.

What I can envision (and hope for) is the 9mm encroaching on the 380 mouse gun. I'd love to see an LCP sized 9mm or even a G42 sized 9mm. Yes, they would be a handful, but they aren't intended to be range guns (neither are the LCP/P3AT/etc...).

I was actually surprised when S&W came out with the ShieldEZ and Springfield with the 911. So, maybe I'm completely off-base and wrong - but I don't think so.

 

[powernoodle]

I can't believe they [the G42] are selling any since the 43 came out.

Yet they are, which means that you are out of touch with the marketplace. Just as I am out of touch with the marketplace on the 19X, which looks like a stupid mullet haircut to me. I have no idea how Glock sold even one of those, yet they are very popular.

 

[3 Cubed - 1]

Yet they are, which means that you are out of touch with the marketplace. Just as I am out of touch with the marketplace on the 19X, which looks like a stupid mullet haircut to me. I have no idea how Glock sold even one of those, yet they are very popular.

That’s funny!

Seriously though, have you shot a 42? They sell because people like me tell others to buy them to train with at min, pack at max. These things, the 42 are “f.u.n.” To shoot!

Honestly, the going advice is that complete noobs sharpen their skills on a .22. It’s great advice, but you could in theory sharpen your teeth on the 42 as well, AND have a viable self defensive weapon to boot.

And above all else, they aren’t as ugly as the “stupid mullet haircut” 19X either lol!

Edit - I note you never disparaged the 42. Was I out of touch with your post lol?

 

[Danielsuzuki]

I can’t seem to get enough of my, I’ve recieved and installed magguts and talon grips last weekend. Another two hundred trouble free rounds from my (3) seven shot mags.

As much as I like shooting/carrying my 29, if I had 13 or so rounds of 380 in a small-ish double stack... bliss.

It’s definately more accurate than I am as well. Getting pretty good with my off hand!

Happy New Year gang!

 

[Buckeye63]

Ah yes, thanks a lot. Apparently, the source is here:
https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2018/10/29/a-first-look-at-2019-s-new-guns/
"Unlike the 5-shot 9 mm version, this new stainless steel double-action revolver is built on the company's Large frame in order to accommodate a sixth shot in the cylinder."

Thats odd . I think its a miss communication ...
I'd say it is built on the Bulldog frame .. Like the 9mm,40 S&W ,44spl & the 6 shot 38spl Police model...
The 380acp operates at a lower pressure than the 9mm so six is good to go ... Since the Bulldog frame houses 6 shot 38spl ..
But it will be a 20oz revolver

 

[zaitcev]

The 380acp operates at a lower pressure than the 9mm so six is good to go ...

Charter switched from 6-round to 5-round cylinders for the 9mm gun because the ejection was unreliable. Their clipless mechanism requires a certain space to function. It wasn't because the 6-shooter could not take the pressure. Going to a smaller round count in the same cylinder diameter permitted a small redesign.