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Whats with the two tone 1911 crap these days?

8K views 46 replies 29 participants last post by  fasteddie565  
#1 ·
I started looking for a stainless 1911 recently. I was a little shocked at how hard it is to find a 100% stainless gun. Aside from a few base model offerings from some manufacturers, almost everything else is a mix these days and has at least some black hardware on it ie Ruger SR1911. Or even many of the all-black guns at least have one stainless piece (hammer, beavertail safety, or trigger etc) for example the Desert Eagle 1911. Its like every manufacturer goes into the parts bucket and instead of adhering to a design philosophy.

Oh and just try to find a .40 cal stainless 1911 under $3000. smh

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#32 ·
I started looking for a stainless 1911 recently. I was a little shocked at how hard it is to find a 100% stainless gun. Aside from a few base model offerings from some manufacturers, almost everything else is a mix these days and has at least some black hardware on it ie Ruger SR1911. Or even many of the all-black guns at least have one stainless piece (hammer, beavertail safety, or trigger etc) for example the Desert Eagle 1911. Its like every manufacturer goes into the parts bucket and instead of adhering to a design philosophy.

Oh and just try to find a .40 cal stainless 1911 under $3000. smh

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#33 ·
I think it all started with stainless frames under blue slides because the pure target shooters did not want a shiney slide and firing pin stop under their checkered or serrated rear sight. Then Colt came out with their satin nickle government model with blue safety, slide stop and grip safety. Apparently a lot of people like the two tone look. They usually manufacture what sells. I have an engraved stainless S&W 1911 that has contrasting parts on it (1911-2011 commerative). I like the way it looks. I also have an Ed Brown Special Forces that has a stainless frame and a polymer coated slide. The stainless slide contrasts nicely with the tremendously gaudy grips I have on it. I don't think they are putting blue parts on a stainless gun to save money. I think they are doing it because it sells. I think Sig does the opposite and puts stainless parts on their blued Nightmare. When you are building 1911s like half the other people on the planet, I guess you become desperate to find a way to stand out in the crowd.
Could also be that in the early days of Stainless steel semi automatics, they had issues with galling. Having traditional steel on stainless eliminated that issue.
 
#34 ·
You are kind of new to 1911s?

The two tune goes way back. It was tactical before they used the word tactical. You had the lower in hard chrome and the top in non reflective flat Teflon. The original frying pan finish.

The 1911 is a large frame semi auto. It defeats the purpose to load short 9mm size calibers. The only reason you see 9 mm being chambered now days is because of 9mm popularity. Colt would do a run of 9mm now and then years ago. Slow seller. Few sold or made. Price an old 9mm Commander on Gun Broker.
 
#35 ·
I am the OP.
Im not new to 1911s. I bought my first 1911, a Colt Delta Elite, in 2001. My most recent was a Sig 1911-22 FDE in 2016.

My point is, if you carefully look at current offerings from all the manufacturers, a 100% stainless 1911 is relatively rare. That is a new trend. They usually have at least 1 or two contrasting bits (not counting sights or grip screws - duh).

For those of you who spent 3 seconds pasting a google link for "stainless 1911", thank you. That is why I use GT so little.

Even the Sig 1911 .40 Traditional Match Stainless that someone linked to says it is stainless with "white controls" but Sig has no pics. Ive also read the wait time is quite long on that pistol.

Honestly the most mainstream model Ive seen is the Kimber Ultra Raptor II stainless. If they made that in 40, I'd be happy.

I appreciate the idea of a 10mm with a 40 barrel.


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#39 ·
I am the OP.
Im not new to 1911s. I bought my first 1911, a Colt Delta Elite, in 2001. My most recent was a Sig 1911-22 FDE in 2016.

My point is, if you carefully look at current offerings from all the manufacturers, a 100% stainless 1911 is relatively rare. That is a new trend. They usually have at least 1 or two contrasting bits (not counting sights or grip screws - duh).

For those of you who spent 3 seconds pasting a google link for "stainless 1911", thank you. That is why I use GT so little.

Even the Sig 1911 .40 Traditional Match Stainless that someone linked to says it is stainless with "white controls" but Sig has no pics. Ive also read the wait time is quite long on that pistol.

Honestly the most mainstream model Ive seen is the Kimber Ultra Raptor II stainless. If they made that in 40, I'd be happy.

I appreciate the idea of a 10mm with a 40 barrel.


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Wait sig makes a 1911?:supergrin:
 
#36 ·
"I am the OP.
Im not new to 1911s. I bought my first 1911, a Colt Delta Elite, in 2001. My most recent was a Sig 1911-22 FDE in 2016."

When I bought my first 1911 it was the new Colt Series 70 MK VI for $110 new in the box. My Dad had to signed for it because I was still in high school. The collect bushing with the fingers was the new thing then.

BTW, when they make the frame dark and the slide shinny it defeats the original purpose. They just want to be different. Just doesn't look right to this old guy. However it is just looks. If the gun is built well and shoots great then that is what really matters.
 
#37 ·
I believe, (but am interested in other opinions & thoughts),:
that the first commercially available all stainless handgun was the S&W Mdl 60, a ss version of the S&W Mdl 36, 5 shot revolver. I believe that next, and 1st for a semi-automatic would be the ss Detonics, which was aware of similar
stainless steel galling, and used different grades & dissimilar types of stainless, & special lubricants. Then everybody jumped on the stainless handgun market.
I think that the hard chrome bragging rights (and 6" long slides) goes to Jim Clark, Sr, & Jim Hoag.
Clark was 1st with the long-slide, with Hoag being 1st with the hard chrome frames (2 tone). Somewhere Armand Swensen , fits ib here also, equipping most of his combat (Viet Nam era) in hard chrome to fight the jungle type atmosphere & conditions. Different color controls were non-existanct in those days.
 
#45 · (Edited)
Yes, I just can't stand them myself.
My James Hoag 6" longslide Mastergrade, my WC Classic SG, & my SA CS Rob Letham TGO-1, they all suck.

Yes, they do suck. Send them my way and I'll send you a few Lo Points, I mean Hi Points [emoji16]

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