[DrVlad]

Few years ago shot with a friend with many AR's (M&P, FN, Colt, among others). Added my new DD to the mix. No comparison-- for all the tactical drills, DD was our favorite. Now I own two DD M4V7lw and plan on buying two more.

Like Mr Twister said. DD feels like a toy. But in a good way.

 

[WayaX]

A lot of people really overthink the weight issue. A light rifle as a starting point (rifle + furniture) is important because this is typically where the most "useless" weight can be saved. Examples: A light barrel is sufficient for most uses and an H-barrel is really a niche item (most people have this backwards). A Magpul UBR stock, while high in cool-guy points, is needlessly heavy. One should not go to such extremes in the other direction either. Many high quality accessories exist at reasonable weights and prices. Many rail systems weigh the same or less than plastic handguards now.

The reason a light rifle is important to start with that accessories are heavy. Optics and lights are essential. These are worth their weight. A fully "kitted-out" AR-15 should weigh less than 9 lbs. If the rifle is made with quality gear and not gucci ultra-light weight, super-expensive, potentially unreliable parts (plastic or strange untested metal alloys), this is typically achievable at a reasonable cost.

This may sound rude or inflammatory, but if you cannot handle a 9 lb AR-15 for any reasonable task and don't have a disability, you do need to reconsider where your time and money are spent. I am not a bench shooter, but I also don't have delusions of wandering the country in a fantasy zombie apocolypse either.

My SBR weighs 8 lbs, my "recce" rifle about 8 3/4, my .308 is around 12. All unloaded with optic, light, etc.

 

[Lindenwood]

I shot a relatively light SBR once, and it seemed about as difficult to keep on target under rapid fire and controlled pairs as my 16" .308. It weighs something like 9lbs unloaded.

 

[MO Fugga]

My RRA 458 weighs in at 10.5 pounds. UBR, red dot, and empty mag. I can add 5 pounds easily. :rofl:

 

[OldSchool64]

No worries. I just run into a lot of macho bull**** daily working with guns, so that stuff rubs me wrong. Plastic furniture is where it is at! I don't preach much but I swear by free floating rails. Triggers, too but that technically makes it easier to shoot.



I'm by no means a feminist b*tch (just a regular one, lawl) but the main reasons that I'm active on here is because I LOVE the format of the site, and sites like sniper's hide and AR15 have a ton of good info but just as man armchair warriors. I'll ask questions and get trolled. I just want to exchange good information! =]

.......................

You're a woman in a predominately mans field. I happen to like and respect that, as for the others who feel the need to troll you - well, the susceptibility of some folks to fall victim of the idiocentricities of being a lesser human is either something to be ignored or used against them when the opportunity arises.

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You all have me thinking: My barrel is a heavy Rock River R-15 that's heavier than my fkn purse. I need to swap that out for a 14.5 like XDRoX's thinking.

The upper I have; http://palmettostatearmory.com/inde...eled-upper-assemblies/psa-16-5-56-nato-stainless-steel-hammer-forged-upper.html
Is what I bought (when on sale) more or less on a whim after doing some research, and leans towards a light weight profile, "lightened between the muzzle and the front sight base". I figure as may as well take advantage of that by trying to keep it as light as possible.

 

[OldSchool64]

My RRA 458 weighs in at 10.5 pounds. UBR, red dot, and empty mag. I can add 5 pounds easily. :rofl:

The weight of that wouldn't bother me either.

:cheers:

 

[Wil Ufgood]

 

[OldSchool64]

Don't make me offer her personal training.
:tempted:


And hiya, Mr Personality.

 

[Wil Ufgood]

Don't make me offer her personal training.
:tempted:


And hiya, Mr Personality.

:couch:

 

[DrVlad]

Actually never weighed my AR before.
DD M4V7 Lw + Elzette 2cell light + Aimpoint pro + Magpul MS2 sling = 8.4 #

This thread got me thinking about the weight of my optics. Last year my brother purchased an Aimpoint micro T1 for his FN setup-- for the light weight. So I went to Aimpoint site to compare. AIMPOINT PRO w/mount : 11.7 oz. Aimpoint Micro T1 w/ mount : 3.7 oz. That's a 7.9 oz diff! That would drop my M4 weight to 7.8 #. Hmmmm.

However, I haven't shot with the microT1 yet......and I really like my PRO......and for the price of a T1 I could buy another Glock.....and anyone knows that those who say you have too many Glocks, well that's just crazy talk.

 

[faawrenchbndr]

I have one under six, one over eleven and many in-between.

 

[Jason D]

My RRA is probably 7 in a half or 8 pounds. That's a 16" carbine with an Hbar.

My DCM guns weigh in at 12-13 pounds.

 

[fnfalman]

Just hire an illegal alien to be the
Gun bearer. I'm too lazy to hit the gym nowadays.

 

[Wil Ufgood]

Just hire an illegal alien to be the
Gun bearer. I'm too lazy to hit the gym nowadays.

 

[Turn4811]

I have a 6.8SPC Carbine that is just over 9 lbs without the 25 round magazine. I also have a light weight Bushmaster C-15 that is about 5.6 lbs without a magazine. The AR-10 I had was about 14 lbs but it had a bi-pod and huge scope - I still regret selling it.

The furniture, barrel, and optics can all be whittled down, skeletonized, or obtained in lightweight configuration. I have seen a <5 lb carbine but it had a lot of carbon fiber pieces, poly pieces, and a poly upper and lower.

 

[CRozek]

You're a woman in a predominately mans field. I happen to like and respect that, as for the others who feel the need to troll you - well, the susceptibility of some folks to fall victim of the idiocentricities of being a lesser human is either something to be ignored or used against them when the opportunity arises.

Kind words. My biggest complaint (not so much here but other forums) is the 1. lack of humor, 2. delicately invested egos, 3. Justification for things that aren't practical, 4. BS, 5. It is ok to say "I don't know," and 6. circle-jerk of who has thicker chest hair. Don't know if I mentioned, but I work at a dealer.

1. I like guns AND in my own head, I'm a successful stand-up comic (your miles may very) Why so serious?

2. If I don't like something that you're into, don't bleed from your anus. That just means that I don't personally care for it, not that it is junk. Just because you own it doesn't make it good either. How can you tell me a 'Vette is better than a Lambo if you've never been in a Lambo?

3. You DON'T have to be practical. Sometimes **** is just fun or badass and it it ok to admit that. Don't get butt-hurt either when I don't think that a setup that you have is practical. I'm getting into IDPA with a Glock 19. Practical? No. Fun? For now.

4. My workday is filled with people BS-ing their military service. Everyone was deployed with a special forces unit or was a sniper, SMH. My old boss was a Lt. Col. Green Beret legit, and another coworker teaches one of the sniper schools (forgot branch) so I've learned how to weed them a bit. Also, everyone lies about what they shoot, how often they shoot, how they carry, ect.

5. It is ok to not know something. Some of the guys that I respect the most and have the most knowledge are the ones also asking the most questions.

6. My balls are bigger than yours attitude... Guns are associated with masculinity and as a result, many men won't admit when they don't know how to shoot, I think. I think that is why that original comment got under my skin. No bad blood or anything but and means, just hit a pet-peeve. I probably needed a Midol.

Rant over, HA!

 

[CRozek]

:badpc::brickwall:

Don't make me offer her personal training.
:tempted:


And hiya, Mr Personality.

You offer me? Psshhh I'm toned as f*ck with all that squatting I do putting sammiches on the bottom rack of the oven. I want to see you squat a pan of braised beef, while you're stirring the sauce and making sure that the french meringue doesn't crack, all without screwing up the souffle. Come. At. Me. sycho::wavey:

 

[M&P15T]

My BCM HSP carbine is definitely lighter than my last AR, it was very noticeable. But weight isn't a thing for me, I don't carry it around all day.

OP, just out of curiosity, do you spend much time carrying one? I've never understood the fascination with uber lightness.

 

[fnfalman]

:badpc::brickwall:



You offer me? Psshhh I'm toned as f*ck with all that squatting I do putting sammiches on the bottom rack of the oven. I want to see you squat a pan of braised beef, while you're stirring the sauce and making sure that the french meringue doesn't crack, all without screwing up the souffle. Come. At. Me. sycho::wavey:

Damn, can you make me a chocolate soufflé?

 

[CRozek]

My BCM HSP carbine is definitely lighter than my last AR, it was very noticeable. But weight isn't a thing for me, I don't carry it around all day.

OP, just out of curiosity, do you spend much time carrying one? I've never understood the fascination with uber lightness.

Not all of the time but often. Sometimes we stalk smaller pigs my my buddy's ranch or sling them from the bed of a pickup if skunks are moving after the sun goes down. A lot of the BC plinking that we do involves moving and shooting and we'll hump those suckers for a few hours. We try to stay off the benches as much as we can, especially since we live in the City and a chuck of the ranges are static no matter what.

Damn, can you make me a chocolate soufflé?

Can you move some living room furniture for me? :rofl: