Don't know about my 15s, but my LMT MWS is almost 17.5 pounds with a 20" barrel, full mag, bipod, scope, and suppressor on it.

 

Geez! My Scar17 is pretty light, but I don't have any goodies on it yet. I plan on eventually weighting it down with a Razor HD Gen II 1-6 on it though, but that will still be under 17 pounds!

 

Ya I'd probably just hit the gym a little more and not worry about it.

 

That's pretty condescending, man. You must keep comfy shooting from a bench or something. That weight adds up if you spend a good chunk of the day shooting. I'm a chick that's 5'2" so I'm already lugging around some weight on my shoulders that you're not. Thanks for the advice though..

 

I have no idea how much mine weighs, but I have a bcm light weight upper on mine with an eotech 512. Compared to my other rifles, it feels "light" though may not be. The balance is right though. A lot of my sbr's feel heavy, then again, they are "assesorized".

 

I have a Daniel Defense M4V7LW with an Aimpoint Micro and BUS that feels like a toy compared to others i've used but that was my idea when i set it up was light weight! I weighed back a year or so ago, if i remember correctly it was just over 7 lbs.

 

Light? I give you light.

 

When we retired ours they were all officially destroyed. :crying:

 

My carbine weighs 8.25 with red dot and light on it.
My SPR is a bit over 9 with a 1x4 on it.

The weight of either doesn't bother a bit.

 

My builds come in between 7-8 lbs. usually. It all depends on the components like you said. I'll have to go weigh them again.

I was shocked at how much heavier a Magpul UBR was compared the the CTR models I usually use. That extra pound makes a difference.

Chicks with SCARs are sexy.

I second that.

Mine is a rough estimate, but you could probably do easier than you think. Take a generic AR-15 and get the weight on it. I made columns with weight in ounces, then calculated the differences like this. I blacked out some data because I work in the industry and have some info on there that I can't share.

Great idea. Well done. I'm going to start doing this. Thanks for the inspiration.

 

This rifle, as-pictured, weighs 8 pounds, 5.5 ounces. Loaded mag (28rds 62gr TSX loads). Without the sling, it's 7 pounds, 14 ounces. With no optic, light, sling, or mag, the base rifle weighs 6 pounds, 4.5 ounces. It's surprisingly light, considering it has a 13" handguard and a government profile barrel.

 

I was just kidding around, didn't mean anything by it.

I've never assembled an AR for lightness, but I will weigh a couple of mine tonight so you can get a comparison. I know I have at least one pretty light one. No scope and all plastic parts/rail. I bet it's around 7lbs or less.

That one on the top with the Noveske lower. It even has a 14.5" barrel so that would make it a little lighter as well.

No worries. I just run into a lot of macho bull**** daily working with guns, so that stuff rubs me wrong. Plastic furniture is where it is at! I don't preach much but I swear by free floating rails. Triggers, too but that technically makes it easier to shoot.

Well, you've just meet another 'personality'. This is the first and only gun forum for me, and in the beginning I seriously thought I'd never be somewhat known here. I guess you could say "**** happens" :supergrin:

Anyway, there are some good folks here, and I've found there's some fun to be had here too. But it's the interwebs - trolls are here, and some people ya just need to get to know.....

I'm by no means a feminist b*tch (just a regular one, lawl) but the main reasons that I'm active on here is because I LOVE the format of the site, and sites like sniper's hide and AR15 have a ton of good info but just as man armchair warriors. I'll ask questions and get trolled. I just want to exchange good information! =]

You all have me thinking: My barrel is a heavy Rock River R-15 that's heavier than my fkn purse. I need to swap that out for a 14.5 like XDRoX's thinking.

 

No worries. I just run into a lot of macho bull**** daily working with guns, so that stuff rubs me wrong. Plastic furniture is where it is at! I don't preach much but I swear by free floating rails. Triggers, too but that technically makes it easier to shoot.



I'm by no means a feminist b*tch (just a regular one, lawl) but the main reasons that I'm active on here is because I LOVE the format of the site, and sites like sniper's hide and AR15 have a ton of good info but just as man armchair warriors. I'll ask questions and get trolled. I just want to exchange good information! =]

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You're a woman in a predominately mans field. I happen to like and respect that, as for the others who feel the need to troll you - well, the susceptibility of some folks to fall victim of the idiocentricities of being a lesser human is either something to be ignored or used against them when the opportunity arises.

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You all have me thinking: My barrel is a heavy Rock River R-15 that's heavier than my fkn purse. I need to swap that out for a 14.5 like XDRoX's thinking.

The upper I have; http://palmettostatearmory.com/inde...eled-upper-assemblies/psa-16-5-56-nato-stainless-steel-hammer-forged-upper.html
Is what I bought (when on sale) more or less on a whim after doing some research, and leans towards a light weight profile, "lightened between the muzzle and the front sight base". I figure as may as well take advantage of that by trying to keep it as light as possible.

 

If you're going with a red dot optic, take a look at the MRDS. It'll hellp keep the weight down on your rifle.

 

Few years ago shot with a friend with many AR's (M&P, FN, Colt, among others). Added my new DD to the mix. No comparison-- for all the tactical drills, DD was our favorite. Now I own two DD M4V7lw and plan on buying two more.

Like Mr Twister said. DD feels like a toy. But in a good way.

 

A lot of people really overthink the weight issue. A light rifle as a starting point (rifle + furniture) is important because this is typically where the most "useless" weight can be saved. Examples: A light barrel is sufficient for most uses and an H-barrel is really a niche item (most people have this backwards). A Magpul UBR stock, while high in cool-guy points, is needlessly heavy. One should not go to such extremes in the other direction either. Many high quality accessories exist at reasonable weights and prices. Many rail systems weigh the same or less than plastic handguards now.

The reason a light rifle is important to start with that accessories are heavy. Optics and lights are essential. These are worth their weight. A fully "kitted-out" AR-15 should weigh less than 9 lbs. If the rifle is made with quality gear and not gucci ultra-light weight, super-expensive, potentially unreliable parts (plastic or strange untested metal alloys), this is typically achievable at a reasonable cost.

This may sound rude or inflammatory, but if you cannot handle a 9 lb AR-15 for any reasonable task and don't have a disability, you do need to reconsider where your time and money are spent. I am not a bench shooter, but I also don't have delusions of wandering the country in a fantasy zombie apocolypse either.

My SBR weighs 8 lbs, my "recce" rifle about 8 3/4, my .308 is around 12. All unloaded with optic, light, etc.

 

I shot a relatively light SBR once, and it seemed about as difficult to keep on target under rapid fire and controlled pairs as my 16" .308. It weighs something like 9lbs unloaded.

 

My RRA 458 weighs in at 10.5 pounds. UBR, red dot, and empty mag. I can add 5 pounds easily. :rofl:

 

The weight of that wouldn't bother me either.

:cheers:

 

 

Don't make me offer her personal training.
:tempted:


And hiya, Mr Personality.

 

Actually never weighed my AR before.
DD M4V7 Lw + Elzette 2cell light + Aimpoint pro + Magpul MS2 sling = 8.4 #

This thread got me thinking about the weight of my optics. Last year my brother purchased an Aimpoint micro T1 for his FN setup-- for the light weight. So I went to Aimpoint site to compare. AIMPOINT PRO w/mount : 11.7 oz. Aimpoint Micro T1 w/ mount : 3.7 oz. That's a 7.9 oz diff! That would drop my M4 weight to 7.8 #. Hmmmm.

However, I haven't shot with the microT1 yet......and I really like my PRO......and for the price of a T1 I could buy another Glock.....and anyone knows that those who say you have too many Glocks, well that's just crazy talk.

 

I have one under six, one over eleven and many in-between.

 

My RRA is probably 7 in a half or 8 pounds. That's a 16" carbine with an Hbar.

My DCM guns weigh in at 12-13 pounds.

 

Just hire an illegal alien to be the
Gun bearer. I'm too lazy to hit the gym nowadays.

 

 

I have a 6.8SPC Carbine that is just over 9 lbs without the 25 round magazine. I also have a light weight Bushmaster C-15 that is about 5.6 lbs without a magazine. The AR-10 I had was about 14 lbs but it had a bi-pod and huge scope - I still regret selling it.

The furniture, barrel, and optics can all be whittled down, skeletonized, or obtained in lightweight configuration. I have seen a <5 lb carbine but it had a lot of carbon fiber pieces, poly pieces, and a poly upper and lower.

 

You're a woman in a predominately mans field. I happen to like and respect that, as for the others who feel the need to troll you - well, the susceptibility of some folks to fall victim of the idiocentricities of being a lesser human is either something to be ignored or used against them when the opportunity arises.

Kind words. My biggest complaint (not so much here but other forums) is the 1. lack of humor, 2. delicately invested egos, 3. Justification for things that aren't practical, 4. BS, 5. It is ok to say "I don't know," and 6. circle-jerk of who has thicker chest hair. Don't know if I mentioned, but I work at a dealer.

1. I like guns AND in my own head, I'm a successful stand-up comic (your miles may very) Why so serious?

2. If I don't like something that you're into, don't bleed from your anus. That just means that I don't personally care for it, not that it is junk. Just because you own it doesn't make it good either. How can you tell me a 'Vette is better than a Lambo if you've never been in a Lambo?

3. You DON'T have to be practical. Sometimes **** is just fun or badass and it it ok to admit that. Don't get butt-hurt either when I don't think that a setup that you have is practical. I'm getting into IDPA with a Glock 19. Practical? No. Fun? For now.

4. My workday is filled with people BS-ing their military service. Everyone was deployed with a special forces unit or was a sniper, SMH. My old boss was a Lt. Col. Green Beret legit, and another coworker teaches one of the sniper schools (forgot branch) so I've learned how to weed them a bit. Also, everyone lies about what they shoot, how often they shoot, how they carry, ect.

5. It is ok to not know something. Some of the guys that I respect the most and have the most knowledge are the ones also asking the most questions.

6. My balls are bigger than yours attitude... Guns are associated with masculinity and as a result, many men won't admit when they don't know how to shoot, I think. I think that is why that original comment got under my skin. No bad blood or anything but and means, just hit a pet-peeve. I probably needed a Midol.

Rant over, HA!

 

:badpc::brickwall:

Don't make me offer her personal training.
:tempted:


And hiya, Mr Personality.

You offer me? Psshhh I'm toned as f*ck with all that squatting I do putting sammiches on the bottom rack of the oven. I want to see you squat a pan of braised beef, while you're stirring the sauce and making sure that the french meringue doesn't crack, all without screwing up the souffle. Come. At. Me. sycho::wavey:

 

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You offer me? Psshhh I'm toned as f*ck with all that squatting I do putting sammiches on the bottom rack of the oven. I want to see you squat a pan of braised beef, while you're stirring the sauce and making sure that the french meringue doesn't crack, all without screwing up the souffle. Come. At. Me. sycho::wavey:

Damn, can you make me a chocolate soufflé?

 

My BCM HSP carbine is definitely lighter than my last AR, it was very noticeable. But weight isn't a thing for me, I don't carry it around all day.

OP, just out of curiosity, do you spend much time carrying one? I've never understood the fascination with uber lightness.

 

Not all of the time but often. Sometimes we stalk smaller pigs my my buddy's ranch or sling them from the bed of a pickup if skunks are moving after the sun goes down. A lot of the BC plinking that we do involves moving and shooting and we'll hump those suckers for a few hours. We try to stay off the benches as much as we can, especially since we live in the City and a chuck of the ranges are static no matter what.

Damn, can you make me a chocolate soufflé?

Can you move some living room furniture for me? :rofl:

 

First build ,
AreoPrec. upper,lower& BCG
Ballisitic Advantage16" .223 WYLDE bbl.
STD muzzle device
Guntec 15'' FF M-lock rail
I'm surprised at the weight!

 

View attachment 256675 First build ,
AreoPrec. upper,lower& BCG
Ballisitic Advantage .223 WYLDE bbl.
STD muzzle device
Guntec 15'' FF M-lock rail
I'm surprised at the weight!

Nice setup. My current build should weigh about the same. Hoping to have it all together by this weekend.

 

Try standing for about 2 to 3 hours with a regular AR while watching a door. Those situations make one appreciate a lighter rifle.

I only have two rifles here at home right now. My 5.56 SBR with Eotech, light and no suppressor or mag weighs in at just over 8 lbs. Heavy I know. My 22 SBR with a Bushnell TRS25, MFT stock and a suppressor with no mag is just at 6 lbs. Heavy for a 22 sbr.

The 5.56 has an old Midwest Industries FF handguard on it. This is probably where I can shave some weight. And the Vltor stock with batteries could be another spot.

Not sure what my 300blk sbr weighs. I leave the suppressor on that one (barrel is 8", handguard is 12")

 

Try standing for about 2 to 3 hours with a regular AR while watching a door. Those situations make one appreciate a lighter rifle.

Because, those situations happen all the time.

I regularly grab my AR and just stand by a door for a few hours.:crazy::crazy: